Are men afraid of singing in choirs because it makes them appear less masculine?
@sarahbeth1977 (384)
United States
December 28, 2006 5:33pm CST
I've been a choral director for many years now, and many of those years were dedicated to high school and community teenagers. The most common problem among my choral director friends was the lack of participation by the males. What has happened? Do men see singing as a "sissy" thing? I find that a man who can sing well is one of the hottest things I've ever seen. Any thoughts? Any ideas for recruiting men that you can think of?
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@sarahbeth1977 (384)
• United States
28 Dec 06
That was my frustration, though. I have heard so many men with a decent talent, and I know if they were to try it, they would see how much fun it can really be. But how do you convince someone of that when they don't want to even try it? How do you drum up interest in something they don't even know they might like?
@sarahbeth1977 (384)
• United States
29 Dec 06
*laugh* I'm not talking about forcing anyone - because you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming to get out of a plane with a piece of tarp on my back with strings *giggle*. Kudos for you with the bravery to do it! But I guess what I'm trying to ask is how do you get someone interested in at least trying it?
@medooley (1873)
• United States
29 Dec 06
Yes I am sure that boys who are in chiors are viewed as sissys. When you are in school and all the crap that you have to deal with as it is... I think the think that if they join a chior it is just more ammuntion for the fellas.
And the reason why I never joined... I can't sing a lick.
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@sarahbeth1977 (384)
• United States
29 Dec 06
*laugh* I figured that may be one, so I tried to subtley try to exploit that a bit *grin*. I used to tell the girls to go saddle up next to guys they knew that could sing and flirt with them...see if they could get them in choir *grin*. I felt no shame!!
@sarahbeth1977 (384)
• United States
29 Dec 06
*laugh* for some reason this struck me as funny *grin* I guess I just wish there was a way to make it cool so that people didn't think it was sissy. I mean, men singing used to be the thing...all these barber shop quartets and all...how do you make something like that cool again? Can you think of any ideas that a choir could do that would appeal to a guy?
@AngEngland (320)
• United States
29 Dec 06
I sometimes wonder if it begins with the children. I'm a music education major and notice that in school music classes are always scheduled the same time as sports or gym. In MOST schools rather. Becuase in my college class there were six guys all from the same school....the coach's wife was the choir teacher so the coach MADE the school reshedule the classes, encouraged his junior high sports boys to also do the choir and MANY of them developed their voices enough to actually get scholarships with college choirs. Even as non-majors! If a man waits until he is an adult to try to learn to sing it will be difficult...often more so than for a women because of the voice registers. It is harder for a MAN to find his singing voice than it is for a BOY to find his singing voice. A junior high boy who learns to sing actually has fewer voice change issues when puberty hits becuase he's learned to control his voice somewhat. He also is better able to sing as an adult, having had that training prior to the voice change.
Does that make any sense? Whoo-boy! You got me going. Good question!
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@sarahbeth1977 (384)
• United States
29 Dec 06
AMEN AND AMEN!! I'm working on my masters in music education with four years of teaching high school under my belt - I was so frustrated with this - these guys would be joking around in the hall - they'd have awesome pitch retention, but they wouldn't come near my classroom (until of course they saw how cool I was *laugh* yeah right...) - and I would be so ANGRY because they were missing out on an amazing experience! I completely agree with your comments - singing is the best way to deal with the male's change (or several changes rather) in voice.
And I had never really thought about the scheduling with sports, but in a lot of cases, you're right. I loved playing volleyball, but I loved music more. I couldn't play in college because the practice was the same time as chor rehearsals, and my major professor said I had to choose...same thing in high school - I played for a while but couldn't continue because I wanted to be in the musicals and stuff. That's why I wish there were more opportunities to do things like this out in the community instead of just when you're in school, you know?
Keep me updated! I'm excited to hear about your major - I'm assuming you're vocal - what grades do you want to teach?
@blackhawk27 (78)
• United States
5 Jan 07
I've been in the choir since my sophomore year in high school (I'm a senior in college right now and in the choir) and never really thought about my social status. I'm the band and some of my good friends were in the band and/or choir. However, in high school, I also played varsity football, volleyball, and soccer, so I guess can negative status that would've come with being in the choir and band was negated by the fact that I played varsity sports as well. In college, I am in both the choir and band, but I've never really heard of anyone ever putting down the music program. I am in a fraternity, and I actually get a lot of support from my friends there for beign in the band and choir. Occasionally I may get a hard time or laughed at, but for me, it's really about respect. They appreciate that I'm involved and doing something that I enjoy doing. Whether or not they think I'm a sissy or less masculine is irrelevant for me. Actually, some of my friends wish they sing as well as the guys in the choir, as they're starting to find out that it attracts the ladies :).
@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
24 Mar 07
I don't think they are afraid. They just have something better to do. I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want to be obligated to sing a bunch of lame songs. No offense but I'm not into that sort of thing.
A Pentacostal Preacher once asked me to come play for his band because he needed to liven things up a bit. Can't have anyone sleeping.