Should men be entitled receipts from child support?
By natuser28
@natuser28 (907)
United States
16 responses
@BittyBiddy (2903)
• Ireland
2 Jan 07
Well, I think you should get a receipt to say that you've paid the money, but how do you know that the child is getting the money? I mean......your "ex-lady" surely has to feed and cloth the child, so she has to get some of the money, no? Maybe she should be showing you receipts for rent/mortgage, food and clothes so that you know the money is being spent on the child.
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@BittyBiddy (2903)
• Ireland
2 Jan 07
Oh ok. I think I know what you mean. Well, I think the money has to go to the mother as the child is not going to be able to go down to the local stores and buy food or clothes. But I think that there should be some way of proving that the mother is looking after the child and is incurring the expenses that she says she is, if only to insure that she isn't shipping the child off to someone else to be minded all the time. I mean, I think it would be incredibly unfair if the mother was off drinking all the money and the child was being minded by somebody else.
@natuser28 (907)
• United States
2 Jan 07
No no no! Okay let me explain myself better. I mean a women who you had a baby by, is longer with her but if she take you to court and demand child support; your money should only go to the child not her.
P. Diddy for example, is paying over $10,000 a month for his kid. I don't know the exact numbers but it's in the six figures yearly. No child have that much need, so u know he is paying her as well. Plus she is demanding more money for child support, that's ridicious.
Now that is a example as in to why men should demand receipts (clothes, healthcare, school and eating not rent). I know, not all women does this. But its the majority.
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@crystal8577 (1466)
• United States
10 Jan 07
The thing of it is that there is a lot involved in taking care of a kid. The courts will tell you that the money can be used towards: rent, food, utilities, dr. bills & such. Yes, the mother benefits from these things too but it is still classified as taking care of the child's well being. I am not saying the father does not have the right to ask where the money goes. I do not think he has the right to dictate what it pays for it most cases.
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
26 Feb 07
My friend had to go to court over child support, she had her ex boyfriend trying to say the same thing this dude is saying. The judge looked at him and said "Child support is for the kids and even though you don't want to hear it, it is also for the mother of the child because the mother needs to be well taken care of to take care of the child." and then she laughed and then it was all over. He has to still pay and they ended up making him pay more.
@natuser28 (907)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Good observation Crystal. But yes, the father have to dictate if he wasn't married to the mother of his child in where the money spend. Since he's doesn't
have to pay alimony, the money should and should only take care of the child.
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@ronita34 (3922)
• Canada
7 Feb 07
I agree that the money should ultimately go to the child and it does. By paying the rent or mortgage or grocery bill or clothing whatever it maybe it is being spent to feed, clothe, and shelter the child!!! We all need these things for survival therefore that is what support should be used for!! Not only this the mother is taking care of the child and the time that she spends with them all the time money cannot buy!!
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@shooie (4984)
• United States
2 Jan 07
I think you should get a receipt saying you paid it but as to where every lil cent went...no. My hubby pays child support and we know for a fact it doesn't go to the kids well one kid now the other two left when they were old enough...woohoo 3 more years of child support on the other one then I can tell his ex off. lol .... sorry back to the topic. I know it can be used toward the heating and bills on that nature and food. Not just clothing and things.
@sineen1981 (339)
• United States
11 Feb 07
why would you want to tell her off? did she do anything to you specifically? or just your husbands money which she has a right to? leave her alone! im pretty sure it was difficult enough raising those kids by herself and now you want to add to it!?!?!
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@xiongqh (791)
• Hong Kong
2 Jan 07
I agree your opinion.
If you don't want to egt it, you won't know where the money spend, maybe someone spend it for herself but not the child, because the money is important to the child, no one have the right to use money for other usage.
A receipt it fair to the man and women.
@puma_nz (999)
• New Zealand
2 Jan 07
I think Father's should have a right to their Children anyway.. unless he was some Hardcore Criminal then NAH! This sort of thing is so common that there are alot of Children who miss out on their Dad's and Visa Versa.. Its pretty sad.. but yea to answer your question.. Yep I think so too..
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@natuser28 (907)
• United States
2 Jan 07
Sorry i had a typo. (everyone look at it again)
Men who pays child support should in my opinion get receipts to know that their child is getting the money and support NOT his ex-lady.
Thank You.
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
26 Feb 07
It's almost impossible to keep track of every little thing and it wouldn't work out. Why do you think the court doesn't do the whole receipt thing? Because it wouldn't work.
You need a lot of money to take care of kids and you wont see where every last penny went.
Facts of life. Deal.
@sunilrobertdmello (106)
• India
25 Jan 07
Yes i do agree. A receipt or any proof is required. If in case in the later stages his ex-lady file a case saying that he has not paid any money.He has no proof and again he will face the brunt and she could ask more money and almost bankrupt him.
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@ronita34 (3922)
• Canada
7 Feb 07
Well, my daughters father outs the money into my bank account himself and he keeps his own bank receipts for his own proof. I do not think that there is any need to question me though as he knows that it all is spent on his daughters and not on me! We have a great relationship that way as he knows that i am a good mother and i do not sqwauk too much when he is late a few months at times!!
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@candygurl24 (1880)
• Canada
11 Feb 07
I think that all men or women paying child support should be allowed to have that choice to have reciepts provided to them. Here in Canada, under certain circumstances, men/women are allowed to purchase products that their child(ren) need instead of giving money itself...that way they know where the money is actually going.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
8 Feb 07
I think receipts should definately be required. In fact I think the whole child support system should be completely overhauled.
Too many people are getting ripped off by a system that overcharges, allows visitations to be illegally denied, and that is plainly geared toward the custodial parent.
I know it is geared to toward the custiodial parent because child support told me so when I accused them of discriminating against me in favor of the dingbat.
There are federal guidelines in place to show what a person should pay for child support according to income. Too many times when a person's income goes down, they will either deny the request outright,"lose" it, or sit on it until the child becomes emancipated.
Then when you call them on it, they will tell you that there is no reason to lower it now since the child is now emancipated. But hey, you are welcome to get a lawyer if you want to try to fight our decision. Like anyone that is paying can afford that.
I also know what it is to try and see your kid and be threatened with having the police called.
I don't know about the law anywhere else, but in my state visitation and child support work hand in hand.
If visits are interfered with then the entire child support order,including the amount that has already been paid in, can be overturned and the one in violation would have to cough up the amount that she had been paid. The trick is getting a lawyer, and spending a lot of money in legal fees to get that done.
That is how these women are getting by with this crap.
There are so many that respond to these threads and tell us how it is all about the children, and that if we complain too much we should just grow up. Well there are 2 sides to this story.
Those who are getting the child support and allowing the visits are one side.
Those who are not, are as much in the wrong as someone who deliberately tries to get out of paying the support without good reason.
Well it isn't just about the children, it is also about the rule of law and the fact that so many women are in violation of that law.
Child support has become far to easy to abuse, and far too many are taking advantage of a system that is for all intents and purposes broken. Anyone that is collecting child support and at the same time is interfering with court ordered visitation is stealing.
My dingbat ex used to refer to me as her cash cow. That says a lot about an attitude that is becoming more prevalent all of the time, and is something that a lot of people don't seem to want to acknowledge is happening.
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@crickethear (1417)
• United States
20 Feb 07
Yes, whoever is the primary parent should get child support. Just because it is a man, doesn't mean they shoudn't get it. Women want equal rights, and so that goes along with it. You can't pick and choose. Today most women work, and there are a lot of men, who have custody, and the parent should be paying.
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
8 Feb 07
First of all an adult must receive the money not a minor child. Therefore the parent caring for the child must be the one to receive it. That parent in most cases will know what expenses the child has or causes in more detail than the paying parent. The parent actually caring for the child should be the only one deciding how that money is spent. Should the other parent get receipts as proof? Only if they are willing to provide their own list of expenses, bills and "fun money". That way the custodial parent would have "proof" of the other parent's true income. For that matter the custodial parent should provide an itemized list of every last dime spent on field trips, sports fees, friends birthday presents, library book late fees, cough syrup, doctor's bills and every other "minor" expense that comes with raising a child so that the non custodial parent can see that in most cases they're getting off quite easy.
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@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Children are not merchandise. Merchandise may need a receipt, but not children.
If you pay child support through the court, the court keeps track of everything and things go more smoothly.
And another thing.. Men are not the only ones who pay child support. Women pay child support in some cases.
@sunshinelady (7609)
• United States
25 Feb 07
I agree totally. Not only so that they know their child is getting it but also so that the ex doesn't claim she hasn't gotten the money. She goes after the ex and without this proof he has no way of showing that he paid. I think that is a very good idea. It protects him.