was the iraq war legal? and should of it happened?
By champ4ever
@champ4ever (90)
January 2, 2007 6:33pm CST
now i dont know to much about politics, what is legal and what is'nt illegal, but i know the reasons we went to war with iraq was because of saddam having weapons of mass destruction and his involvment with al'quada, well where is these weapons of mass destruction? alot of good soldiers, and innocent people have died over these reasons, and now george bush suddenly forgets about these reasons because saddam hussein is gone. was this war legal? and should the war of happened?
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@vinod_sailes (214)
• India
3 Jan 07
Good Pal, you have done it well (or discussed it politically) and feigned ignorance of political tantrums. It is politics that you have dug up an issue that requires deliberation.
Iraqi war was and will always be legal. The war was aimed at strengthening the organizational structure of UN which, in fact, depends entirely on the super powers, powers that be and the world leaders. US with all their skill and machinations, got the allies together and launched an attack not for the oil as people make out, it was to ease the world of the demon of destruction. Legal that it has been endorsed by the allies, legal because it has been, time to time, endorsed by UN.
Even your PM Tony Blair endorsing the act and indulging in it at the risk of getting slighted by his own people, meant that, what they did was legal and for the betterment of the world at large.
I shall come back on the issue later elsewhere. But, you be rest assured that there has been no authoritarianism (which could have been termed as illegal) anywhere in the acts and deeds of US and their allies.
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@andy_baex (428)
• Indonesia
3 Jan 07
my friend, killing people without any reason is ilegal, but if you kill to help other people from cleaning religion you are legal, america is a criminal teroris, they kill children in iraq and afghanistan without any reason, they use mass destruction weapon to weak people and ithink that's ilegal, how about you my friend???
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@sonishbnair (1)
• India
3 Jan 07
i think it was really stupid. Sadam was done rash thing to human community, but the question is how much the america eligible to do so....
@angelicEmu (1311)
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3 Jan 07
Well, firstly, no the war wasn't legal - the UN inspectors were still in Iraq, and kept proving the dodgy dossier and the crap intelligence "information" wrong, so the US and British governments decided to go in, before their cooked-up mis-information was proven to be just that (as many other world leaders said it was!). Al-Quaeda have never been supported by Saddam Hussein - quite the opposite! Bush was profiteering on the back of the world's sympathy for them post 9/11, going back to finish the job his Daddy didn't, back in the 1990s. It was a totally illegal war, but the UN won't prosecute or rock the boat with the US or Britain, because they're too big on the world stage, and it would rather keep them on board.
@marinejunkie (16)
• Iraq
3 Jan 07
To respond to your question and to the response you received from it recently- legality is not the question here. Was it "legal" that we lost thousands of people in the trade centers and the pentagon and that Pennsylvania field? It is really disturbing that anyone would get the skewed vision that we went to war for profit. Yes, I am not above the thought that some have made profit from this war. What you don't understand and the media doesn't show are the numerous weapons and bombs and chemicals that we find over here on a daily basis. I am in Iraq. We have located many weapons of mass destruction. The media and those that are ignorant of the facts choose not to listen to these accounts from the very people that are here and involved. The facts are this, Saddam Hussein was linked thru the Arab nations and the oil tycoons throughout the Arab countries. He was found in hiding at a training camp for Al Queida fighters. This is something that the media refused to write. His link to Osama Bin Laden has been strong and was even testified to at the Iran Contra hearings by Oliver North in the 1980s. He told the U.N. at that time that Saddam and Osama were joining forces and they would be a force against the U.S. in the near future. Links to both have been established for the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole, the Yemen Embassy, the first bombing of the Trade Center etc. Why is it that we always forget what happened when we want to. We forget that the attack on the Trade Center wasn't an attack on the United States- yes it happened on U.S. soil- it was against the world. Many nations lost people in those buildings both times. The Trade Center was a centralized financial center for the worlds economy- Did we forget that. Was the war legal? I ask this- was killing legal? That is what this war is about. Now it has turned into a reason to question the government- which from our very start as a nation has happened. I am interested to hear your response. Thanks for listening.
@champ4ever (90)
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3 Jan 07
i do understand what you're saying, but no the iraq war was'nt over killings, that was afganistan. george bush said he linked saddam hussein with the al'quada, and then he said saddam was dangerous to the world because americas intelligence said saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction.. well where is the link between saddam and al'quada, and where are all these weapons of mass destruction that george bush said saddam had?
@medooley (1873)
• United States
3 Jan 07
"What you don't understand and the media doesn't show are the numerous weapons and bombs and chemicals that we find over here on a daily basis."
I remember watching a new story one time that showed some old chemical weapons that the US forces found. Granted these where old, from before the first war with the US. But these weapons were susposed to all be destroyed, and the Iraqi governement said that they were... but we found them... so he did have weapons of mass destruction.
@champ4ever (90)
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3 Jan 07
and what are your reasons on why it should of happened?
the only reason what was given to us on why the war started was because of saddam hussein having weapons of mass destruction and his involvment with the Al'qaudea, well where are these weapons of mass destruction? and where is the proof he was involved with al'quada?
their are good soldiers out their dying for these reasons.
@zeus1a (1046)
• Netherlands
3 Jan 07
Well of course it was NOT legal.I mean there is not such thing as international law or better there is but no neutral force to impose it.So i dont think there is a point discussing the legality or not of this war..answer is more than obvious at least in my case.
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
3 Jan 07
Technically it was legal. The UN had passed 16 Resolutions banning Iraq from doing certain things. Iraq broke these and the UN did nothing, the US is just the only effectual part of the UN
@angelicEmu (1311)
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4 Jan 07
No it wasn't. The UN are the governing body who could have sanctioned a war, and would have, had they deemed force necessary AFTER the carrying out of their inspections. It's not for the US to decide when a country has had long enough to comply, nor that they haven't complied sufficiently to satisfy the UN's mandates. That's the job of... yes, you guessed it - THE U.N.!
@mukulmisra24 (1703)
• India
3 Jan 07
no i dont think so this was the war imposed on iraq..i m not from iraq and muslim either
@Melizzy (1381)
• United States
3 Jan 07
At this point it doesn't matter if it was legal. It doesn't matter if it should have happened. The fact is it did. Now we are left to pick up the pieces. I read somewhere that there were over 13k Iraqi civilians killed. 3k soldiers. One life is too many.
@angelicEmu (1311)
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3 Jan 07
Of course it matters whether or not it was legal. Just because it was the US and UK who invaded Iraq, that doesn't make them exempt from International Law. Had an illegal war been started by Iran or Russia or China, all unpopular with the US government, then the media would be screaming from the rooftops for justice against the leaders who started this war. Of course picking up the pieces is our responsibility, but that does not nullify the injustice and flounting of international law by the US and UK.
@fazzfaz (65)
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3 Jan 07
i think all the iraq qar was worong and should not have happend america are just after the oil everone knows that and look how much people they kill in one day!! they discuste me most of the uk solders are in iraq imagine we got attacked today then who would protect us ???
@moulikrishna (122)
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3 Jan 07
I really dont think these are good signs of humanity.These people have left morales completely and forgot the truth that they are all the same human beings it is very bad killing the innocent people and the brave soldiers who are really want to die for the protection of their own country.
@madudikaw (32)
• Indonesia
3 Jan 07
I don't see any war in the Iraq is legal, why, as long as war is the way to eleiminate others. I never know any country in this world state in their act or rule that they allow to eliminate others.
I don't know much about war rules, but killing child and women or bombing a hospital, are not a war its genocide.
If Iraq doesn't have any oil or they have no history about Islam I don't think the war will happen there.
@medooley (1873)
• United States
3 Jan 07
I don't know the rules of war either, but I know that the killing of children and women or bombing a hospital is far from genocide.
From wikipedia...
Genocide is definded as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
Accidental killings in war are not genocide... I know I know, you are going to say that they were not accidental... And I will say this... You might be right, I don't know I wasn't there. Are you a big enough person to say that you truthfully don't know either?
@prelude00782 (4)
• United States
3 Jan 07
It wasn't really legal or illegal... They've tried to ban "war" a few times in the 20th century, to no avail... obviously.
The question you need to ask yourselves i, would the war have been justified had we found WMD?
I believe that US foreign policy of pre emptive strike is too delicate to be so wreckless. Frankly, the US has nobody to answer to; thus, no accountability.
I believe the real problem here is lack of accountability.
@knights_of_honour (348)
• India
3 Jan 07
No it is not a legal war in itself so as in my earlier posts i have mentioned that its Bush who is a major criminal and he be hanged with a similar trial in the capital of Iraq.
@rayzaq (44)
• Indonesia
3 Jan 07
I think so that's war illegal.UN don't support it.That's all only a bush trick to attack iraq.No weapons find at there.if were find weapons tha's onli a BIG LIER.for me the best terrorist in these world only BUSH.He made USA and all the world not save anymore.No body like him I think so
@gnosticfanatic (214)
• India
3 Jan 07
obviously the iraq war was illegal...i mean if even one nation had the power to stop it....it would not have happened !! it was pure dominance and arrogance...
@pinkspark (56)
• India
3 Jan 07
No one in this world declare wether a war is legal or illegal.because a war always kills many people ,the innocent people. u cannot say killing the innocent legal in any law or religion.
@varunkhanor (5)
• India
3 Jan 07
well just like everyone else i also think the war was just to convey america's say in the world to show his superirity ... n make the world knelt down on kneesss
@leoboysusu (2)
• India
3 Jan 07
The US invasion in Iraq was not fair.....Cuz the world did not give America the permission for enforcing law and order....And why did they do it???
Even though a powerful and rich nation, USA has come to the aid of many nations when they were in trouble....So from these activities....The Americans have drawn out a false notion....That they have the right to please the world....Which is not true...They think that it's their job to 'save the world' since they are powerful and rich....
So, investigations about Saddam's activities should've undertaken by UN security council....Not USA