Could you work for someone who doesn't believe in GOD

@bjsmel (97)
United States
January 9, 2007 10:05am CST
I worked as a Cpa for all my career and was with one company. This company was bought out by an atheist and I felt like I could not work under anyone who did not believe in GOD. Just look around you and tell me that there isn't someone up there in a higher power. Let me know what you think. I respect people of all religions. I may not agree with them but I do respect them. I have no respect for someone who does not believe in God.
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• United States
9 Jan 07
I believe in God very strongly. I have a deep faith, a personal walk with Him. But, the world is changing. God seems to be on hold, or put behind the burner. Working with people that do not share that belief is very difficult. But, we cannot save everyone, them must be willing to want God in their life.
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• United States
9 Jan 07
That is all we can do, is pray for them.
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• United States
10 Jan 07
Oh this is just rediculous, why do you guys think you need to pray for those that don't believe the same as you? Religion can be a wonderful thing when a person uses it to enrich THEIR life, but what purpose does it serve to pray for the "LOST"? Those that do not believe in God, or that believe in a different God, are not "lost", they are quite content in thier life, what if you are wrong in all this. What if you spent your entire life acting better than everyone else and "praying for the lost" only to find out in the end that you were ALL wrong? I'm not saying that this is the case, none of us really know, but i DO know this. You don't know, i don't know, no one knows what the afterlife really holds.
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• Canada
10 Jan 07
Very nice comment right up here! You're not able to know if your religion, anybody elses religion, or any religion at all is right. Who knows, maybe Scientologists have it right. Can you ACTUALLY prove any of these religions wrong? Or do you just go with your own bible's tales saying which stories are true and which are not?
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@xphile777 (427)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Yes, I not only could work for someone who doesn't believe in God, I have. And they were one of the best bosses I've ever had; far better than a lot of the so-called "Christian" bosses I've had. Personally, I don't care what someone's religious beliefs are, in or out of the workplace. But many people are intolerate and prejudiced, and that's why -- unless you're working for a church -- it's especially inappropriate to bring up religion at work. A lot of people don't have common sense when it comes to religious differences. Thus, instead of having a well-functioning workplace, things can fall apart in a second if one person finds out that another worker/boss has different beliefs. Religion and the workplace should be just as separate as religion and the government are. And, yes, I do believe in God. I also believe in the right of everyone to have their own beliefs.
@ssh123 (31073)
• India
10 Jan 07
Belief in god or no belief in god is purely personal feelings of individuals. I firmly believe in god and no one can influence my feeling and beliefs. I keep the religion within the home and I work for anyone and I couldn't careless whether my employer(s) believe in god or not. Work ethics are different from religious beliefs. It is a good discussion topics and thanks.
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@classy56 (2880)
• United States
9 Jan 07
i wouldnt care if they didnt belive in god.i was there to work not talk about religion.an if you needed a job you think about makeing money not someone belefs.not everyone beleive in god but thats up to them,as long as i do thats all that matters
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
9 Jan 07
Oh I will be praying for you. This person let everyone know how he felt everyday and almost every hour. He had the foulest mouth and in 1992 there was not as much control as there is today. I was CFO and nothing is worth working with someone like he was.
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@classy56 (2880)
• United States
9 Jan 07
why didnt you report him to someone,if he was this bad,i know it hard to hear someone talk dirty
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@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Go back and read my discussion. I do respect other people's beliefs. An Atheist has no beliefs. This is what I ask for and I am getting different responses and that is good. Have a great day.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
9 Jan 07
I do share your views except the last sentence. "I have no respect for someone who does not believe in God." I would prefer working for someone who believes in God than a non believer. But if I cannot do otherwise, I'll try my utmost to change his attitude towards God by my behaviour. That is giving your 100% at work, being loyal, etc. If you stand up amongst other workers, your boss will become interested to know why are you so different from other colleagues. Work can be a prayer to God, you can evangelise God to other not only by mouth but by your daily deeds.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Jan 07
If he was foul mouthed and did not treat you right than I agree wholeheartedly.
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@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Well, I spoke from my heart and there is a great difference in someone who have not been saved and someone who does not believe there is a God. This thing is getting deeper than I ever thought but thank you for writing. I do respect your opinion.
@serene2 (278)
• New Zealand
10 Jan 07
We must also remember that JESUS came to seek and save the lost. We were once lost, but now we are found to be in CHRIST. How are they going to know if no one goes. Where ever GOD places you be a silent example. We don't even have to say anything, just be there. Whether its in the work place or in your own home. WE ARE CHRIST'S AMBASSADORS. We are not here for self.
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• United States
10 Jan 07
You can't respect people of all religions if you don't respect those who don't believe in God. I question his exsistance myself, but that is my personal choice. It does not make me a bad person, or change me in any other way. It is only my religious belief. Personally, I think I'd much rather work for a boss who was not religious (whether believing in God or not). I would not have to worry about being judged for my beliefs. Nor deal with getting into neverending religious discussions. In the work place, I believe this is one topic that should be left at the door.
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
I agree with you but how do you think I knew he weas an atheist if he did not go around bragging about it. I never once tried to talk to him about God...I just got out of Dodge!!!
@Violette13 (1048)
• United States
10 Jan 07
I'm almost a little bit offended by this thread, but i'm not going to let it get to me i suppose. The original posters comment about not being able to work for someone that doesn't believe in God and that they don't respect people who don't believe as well, that was too much. Those comments were so close minded and made the OP sound like a very close minded person. They claim to respect all religions and then say that??? I think not. If you truely respected all religions you would be happy in yours and happy that everyone else has theirs. I am a FIRM believer that ALL religion should stay out of work enviroments, you're there to work, not to spread the word. :) But that's just my $0.02 . ;D
• Canada
10 Jan 07
Haha, I wonder if this thread ACTUALLY only made you $0.02. That'd be very interesting, but I can almost guarantee that you made more. It's the thought that counts, though.
• United States
10 Jan 07
Why would that be? You come in here saying a confrontational comment like that and then refuse to respond when someone calls you on your bullsh*t?
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
I would not touch this with a ten foot pole but thanks for writing.
@ljcapps (1925)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Well, I believe that religion doesn't really have a place in the workplace at all. Don't get me wrong, I believe that there is something up there, or around here depending on how you feel, but atheists make their own choices, and have the right to do so. Religion is personal, and should be kept that way. It's wonderful that you've worked for the same company all your career, but the person who bought it out has a right to not be persecuted for his beliefs or lack thereof. And if you quit because of what he believes first, you lose a job you obviously love, with people that you're comfortable with and enjoy, and secondly, isn't that judging him in its own way? You don't have to respect him for what he believes, or respect him as a person, but you should respect him as the owner of your company.
@Desdemona (1301)
• Canada
11 Jan 07
wow...ummm...interesting. I don't judge people by their faith. As you are a believer in a God, I am sure it is written in your scriptures not to judge others? Well, looks like ya failed in my opinion. Regardless of your faith, you have the right to make a decision on where and who you work for, however don't be so quick to judge someone if they don't have a path of salvation. This does not make them a bad person.
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@bjsmel (97)
• United States
11 Jan 07
I think I judged all non believers in the same basket and I really do not mean to do that. No, I am not judging, only stating opinions. The person I was referring to in my discussion was one of the foulest mouth person I have ever come across. He used that foul mouth to let everyone know what he thought about religion. He would never explain why he did not believe there was a higher being. I really wish someone who does not believe in God would explain it to me. Why they do not.........true we cannot see God and true we can not carry on a conversation orally with him but each to their own. I am getting out of here and for those of you who think I have offended you, then please accept my apology. I have really opened up a can of worms and that was not my intent.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Unless he was forcing his beliefs on you or belittling you for your belief what does it matter? Work is just that work and unless it's a Christian ministry place or something similar, religion should not enter into it. If you only want to work with people who follow a certain belief system then you should work in an agency that is for that religion, Catholic Charities, what have you depending on your faith. Work for the church/temple, if need be. In main stream work places though religion should not enter into it.
• United States
10 Jan 07
Right, you just conviently forgot to mention that THAT is why. You only made the entire first post focus around his lack of belief in God.
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Thank you for your comments. I hope everyone reads this and I should have included this in my original post but it had nothing to do with my leaving the company but this same guy actually stole over 4 million dollars from the company....yes it was a very large company and guess what...it is not longer there.
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
11 Jan 07
This is a reply for Violette. No, I did not conveniently forget to tell that he was a thief. I did not know it at the time I was working there so that had nothing to do with my discussion originally. I hope you get your attitude on a more positive track and if my discussion is what caused you to be so negative, then please accept my apology. That was not the purpose.
@18111983 (66)
• Bangladesh
10 Jan 07
ok you are right.i also hate those type of people who doesnt believe in god.but here you have nothing to do.if you feel that u dont want to work with them then you leave the job.you can feel better
• United States
10 Jan 07
So you are agreeing with someone who says they HATE people who don't believe in God?
• Canada
11 Jan 07
Well that makes me feel confident...haha
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Absolutely
• Canada
10 Jan 07
What's wrong with not believing in a God? I don't believe in a god and I seem to be getting along fine with it. I thought you said you respected people of all religions, and if you look anywhere, atheism is a religion, so why not respect them? I'm most likely going to be rated negative for this response, but Christians and Catholics should realize that not everybody can fit under the same umbrella. Some people carry their own, share with a friend, or even don't mind getting wet! P.S. I really hope that my analogy didn't confuse anybody, but what I was trying to say is that not everybody has to follow the same belief system, some people are "covered" with their own beliefs and their own God(s), and some people just let it all go and "get wet." Now this brings me to another topic (which will REALLY give me negative feedback). Have you read the parts of the bible thoroughly? Have you noticed that it contradicts itself multiple times in multiple fashions? Such things like Jesus saying in order to get into Heaven, one must love thy neighbour, honour thy mother and father, and love thy God, which is all fine and dandy. It then goes on saying that in order to get into Heaven, you must be the disciple of Jesus, which, is still okay (now the tricky part). Jesus says, (in Luke 14:26-33) "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters, yes, even his own life, he cannot be my disciple... In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple." So now can you see my confusion? How are you suppose to love everyone and hate everyone? There are multiple points of this that I have if you would like me to share them with you. I was a born Christian, and after paying attention to the bible, I noticed so many complications in it that I could no longer believe a religion in which everything contradicts itself. I'm sorry if I offended anybody with my writing, but I guess it had to be said. P.P.S. I'm prepared to receive your negative feedback, now =(
• United States
10 Jan 07
I couldn't agree more, i think it's great when someone believes in God and keeps it to themselves, but looking down at everyone else as if they are somehow superior really really bothers me. o_O
• United States
10 Jan 07
I like the way you think. ;-D Out of all these posts in here i find yours to be one of the best. 8)
• Canada
10 Jan 07
Why thank you very much =) lol. I do try at things that offend me. I just find it ridiculous how people can stereotype atheists as these awful people.
• United States
10 Jan 07
I would rather work with a person who believes in God,i'd feel more comfortable on an environment like that.But if you're an atheist it doesnt mean that you are a bad person.So it doesnt matter as long as they'll treat me fairly.
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@Junig1 (300)
• Barbados
12 Jan 07
I think I could. I believe there is a GOD but I also know that many people don't believe for various reasons. As long as they don't try to impose their views on me I could. I know however that many others would not and if one doesn't feel they could deal with it they shouldn't work for such a person.
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
12 Jan 07
I think I could also if they did not go around bragging about there being no God. I don't go around saying I know there is a God. This man was so different and he had such a foul mouth and he would come into the office everday and yell...."well here I am and the God most of you believe in did not kill me last night for not believing" Not one person to my knowledge ever mention religion or church or GOd to him. He was a trip and I hope no one ever has to deal with someone like him. I got out of Dodge and so did the majority of the workers there.
@chiquitita (1226)
• Indonesia
10 Jan 07
That would be difficult for me to imagine, actually. My country doesnt allow atheism, but I'll try to think. Well, I'm afraid I have to say NO. I cant work where my boss wont allow me to pray 5 times a day. I'm sure he will say that all my faith and prayers are just wasting time. Or maybe sometimes he'll say "prove to me that God does really exist!" I'm not interested in convincing anyone so that kind of question will bother me. Well people may say what if he's a good man, and doesnt care about your faith? Well, that's the worst condition which I told you about. But I'd still say no. cheers!
• Canada
10 Jan 07
So you're assuming that atheist's don't care or respect others beliefs? I do hate to disagree, but I believe you're wrong. Everyone assumes that atheists are horrible people who only torment people of religion, where this is completely false. True atheists are respectful to everyone around. They don't try to start arguments about god or the bible until it is brought up to them (as this discussion has done). You'll find cold hearted people of all religions. Most wars are now started because of differences in the peoples beliefs. People die every day because they don't believe in someone elses God(s). What I'm trying to say is atheists won't stop you from praying, or question you about your religion unless you bring it up into the topic. In this case, it's the atheist people who need to defend themselves, and that's what we're doing. So saying that an atheist wouldn't let you pray or even believe in your god is very stereotypical. Do you think the same thing would happen if a Christian came and started working above you (I'm assuming that you're not Christian as you said atheism is not allowed in your country, but I could be wrong)? Do you not think they would even push their god onto you and try to make you convert to a completely different religion? Also, Christians was just a religion I used as an example. Not trying to offend anyone of any specific religion, I'm just stating an example! lol
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Thank you for your comments and I agree with you.
• United States
10 Jan 07
A persons faith in god should have nothing to do with where you work...that why there is a seperation of work and faith...your purpose for going to work is to make a living..God said not to judge others because he will judge them in the end....Atheist are all over the place they can be found anywhere you go and in church as well.that is how satan work..I myself found out that 3 of the branch managers that I work with don't believe in God...and regardles of there views I respect them because they respect me..God is love.....
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
You said the magic words....they respect you. this man had no respect for anyone and I really do not think many people (women in particular) would continue to work in the environment.thanks for your response.
@nuffsed (1271)
10 Jan 07
Religious twaddle from fantasy land....... Violette13, says it for me, as does driekons_angel, I could not work for a religious zealot. cremecheese, made a good point too. "You don't have to believe in God to be kind and thoughtful towards others." This whole superiority nonsense "We were lost but now are found"(serene2), is just the kind of divisive stuff that wars are made of. Stop preaching and start loving. The initial question presupposes that you would ask your prospective employer if they believe in god before accepting work. OK, Suppose the Corporation in question, had no god policy. Do you propose I refuse work, and risk loss of welfare for refusing a job? Or will god provide? Am I to make myself homeless, if I cannot find work with a religious employer? Enjoy your faith, but please keep it private. Any god worth having will know if I'm good, even if I dont know he's there.
• United States
10 Jan 07
Beautifully said, i like the last line. :) I'm going to have to tell my boyfriend that one. ;D
@blueskies (1186)
• United States
10 Jan 07
I would work for someone that does not believe in god, as long as they were a good person. I'm agnostic and it's my personal belief that it's important to respect the beliefs of others. While I don't believe in god, I would never ridicule or discriminate against someone who did. To each their own is my philosophy. On the flip side, I wish more people would respect my choice to NOT believe in god. While I understand that many christians feel that they are instructed by their divine power to pray for and "save" unbelievers, I don't appreciate them preaching to me or trying to save me. If they want to pray for me out of my hearing, fine. However, don't proselytize me and then wonder why I walk away.
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
11 Jan 07
As a believer in God, I do agree with you regarding people not respecting your choice and preaching to you. Praying for you in private is another matter. But I am curious. Tell me why you do not believe in God. This is a question I have never ask a non believer and please do not feel as if you need to reply.
@winters (12)
• United States
10 Jan 07
not only would i feel i couldnt but i really dont think id want to
@bjsmel (97)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Thank you expressing your opinion. I agree with you.