Would you be alarmed if your ex wanted to take your children overseas?
By Celanith
@Celanith (2327)
United States
January 10, 2007 1:42am CST
My son's Ex just told him irregardless if he agrees she is taking their children to South Africa where her current husband's parents live and own property. She tried to get him to sign agreement they could go. He did not do it and she told him she could find away around his objections.
He has visitations every other week. It is not that he does not want his children to experince new things but where she wants to go she could stay, she would have a place to live.
She did not indicate this was a vacation either or would return. He is getting papers ready to submit to authorities to flag if she leaves without going following proper procedure. Which is kidnapping. Even on a vacation and she doesn't come it is kidnapping. He has 3 weeks before she plans to leave. He is very alarmed, especially with South Africa due to the border nations warring and it is well known often children and women who go there are sold into slavery. He thinks she maybe cannot leave with the children unless she forges documents and court orders etc. He does not know the ex's new husband well other than he has dual citizenship in S. Africa and USA. And has never met and does not know his parents at all. Would you be alarmed if this were you and your kids?
2 responses
@cajundharma (641)
• United States
12 Jan 07
Are you in the US? She shouldn't even be able to get passports for the kids without his signature, unless the divorce papers state she has sole physical and legal custody. He needs to call the Visa office for his state right away and let them know what's going on. Good luck, I hope things work out.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
12 Jan 07
My husband was the victim of road rage about 3 years ago. He was headed to work and these two landscape trucks were going way below the speed limit in front of him. They were not carrying anything heavy or anything just going slow. My husband is a substitute school teacher and had got an early morning call and had to be at work in a half hour. When he got a straigt stretch safe to pass in he went around both of them. Then the front guy went around my husband about five minutes later and the other guy came up and tried to ram his car. My husband sped up and saw the other guy slowing down. He saw a pull out and so went there and got around the first guy again. Then the the guy sped up and passed my husband again and the other guy got in the other lane too like he was going to pass and then they drove tandem for about a 1/4 mile there was no other traffic and it was rural area. Then both stopped. My husband stopped and both guys big men jumped out of their trucks they had blocked both lanes and started running toward my husbands car so he put it in reverse and started backing up. Suddenly one of the guys saw a school bus coming so they got back in their trucks and my husband took another pullout and went around both trucks before the bus got there. The men followed him and as soon as the bus was out of sight they started speeding up but my husband was going about 95 then and took a side road and they lost him. But it ruined our engine with the high speed he had to do to keep away from them. He thinks they were trying to steal his car a Honda Prelude at the time. Because one truck had a flat bed empty trailer with ramps under it. There had been two other people the week before who had been rural and someone had forced them off the road and made them get out of the car and they stole their car and left them stranded. Both cars too had been Honda Preludes.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
12 Jan 07
oops got the wrong comment on the wrong discussion. sorry about that ignore the road rage comment it was a mistake, have two windows open.
We live in US and she told him she could get loco parantis claiming she could not find him to get permission. She is willing to commit fraud to take them but he has sent his parenting plan in to the Visa office and other papers he has showing his rights of visitation etc.
His attorney is being a jerk though.
@cajundharma (641)
• United States
12 Jan 07
If it were me, heck, I'd go straight to the top and start calling the department of homeland security. He also needs to contact the office of the judge who signed off on the custody agreement and let them know what's going on. I'm sorry his attorney isn't helping. Maybe he needs an attorney that specializes in father's rights, or contact one of the father's rights organizations for help?
@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
12 Jan 07
Your son has every right to become alarmed. He shouldn't sign any papers either. He is going to have a big fight on his hands and He should tell them the authorities of his concerns for his children. Maybe she will realize the ex that she just can't pick up and go and do what she wants. Your son also needs a packet filled with all the information he needs about the new husband and his family.
@Celanith (2327)
• United States
12 Jan 07
He is working on it, he has 3 weeks to get everything done. He did fax his parenting plan and his latest letter from his attorney where she responded a week ago on modifying the parenting plan and what she would or would not agree to. He sent copy of the children's fingerprints in and is getting them photo ID front and side views to send all hard copy via mails to Washington DC. So that when the check passport points the children are flagged immedeately as being kidnapped. He also told his attorney to file and injuction to stop her from leaving. His attorney did not want to do it and said it would appear to the courts as controlling but son found info on Hauge convention laws and article and send him certified letter about it and told him if he does not do the injuction he will file a lawsuit if she takes the kids against him and any judge not acting on it as this has been done before and the man won his case getting over $150,000 and finally did get his children back.
