I'm confused about what to do in my relationship... plz help.. thx
By dragonflyfli
@dragonflyfli (5528)
United States
January 10, 2007 1:17pm CST
I am married for a year now. We had a wonderful relationship and 2 babies. totally in love. He got a new job but it sucks . not like we thought it was going to be. good oportunity turned bad. Its caused stress in our relationship and he likes to escape from reality (to an extreme) and leaves me with the weight on my shoulders. Bills, children, housework, appointments, just making sure everything is done. He just didnt want to handle it. Well, as all this is occuring and hes in his cave, im gettin pi*ssed and frusterated, so i get stressed and am pregnant and start to slow down a little. Need help but hes not there , he's in his cave.
well, today finally the bills are way over due, cuz he likes to spend the money thinking im gonna fight with him to keep the money safe. and he realizes the urgency of the situation, ***cant pay rent, electric bill, phone shut off ect....
now he's like maybe you should go home to mom since im a sinking ship and i should go down alone.
I do blame him and feel some anger and resentment and need to go home but should i stay here to be here for him and rough it out with him until things are settled? Im so torn. i know its my decision to make but i would like some advice so hence the mylot post. Hope this isnt too long to read. lol thanks all
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@RealHigh (41)
• India
10 Jan 07
Luk i think here this is a pure case of resortment..I feel u both really gotto speak..I dont know whether ur both fell in love 'n married each other or was it juss an arranged one.But all i can think of telling u is that,juss give him a chance,not by staying back 'n not heeding to his negligence,but by trying to speak to him in a convincing manner 'n show that there's nothin more important for u other than his love..Though i guess readding this post of ur's u rather seem to be a convincing person,so doing as i said,i guess wudnt do any harm,it wud rather get u'll even more closer...
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@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
10 Jan 07
thank you for the advice. your a sweetie. ahve a good day.
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@avs189 (1030)
• India
10 Jan 07
Ya i agree with real , i feel that u should approach him in a concerned manner ,,trying to find why he is really worried ,give him assurance that you and ur kid would want to become his biggest asset and strength in life and not as mere
burden whom he has to forcefully accept ,,,give him ray of hope that nuthing is lost and battle can still be won ,perhaps ur baby migh turn ur fortune and the situation might change ,evrything would return to normal ,make him hopeful ... as far as i think i would prefer u to stay there and make him more confident and give him courage to face the problem if u really love him!!!!!!
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@nickventere (1420)
• Zambia
11 Jan 07
I agree that you give him another chance, or merely stick up with you thru all these tribulations. However, one thing you oughta do is openly talk to him about your feelings. Just state it clearly to him that he ought to do something about the situation, and not leave everything up to you to sort out. After all, he's the man of the house!
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@nuffsed (1271)
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10 Jan 07
You are so brave to open up and try to get advice on this most personal of problems...
Damn your man wants a slap, you being pregnant is no time to indulge his own depression. That can be shelved for now.
You can't get into all the details, but you do say, he's spending the money... Hey, it is hard to see where his love for you and the three kids is now.
If he is not prepared to let you take charge of things then you have no relationship left to save.
You need to be able to talk to creditors and give them something. You can't do that if he is keeping the cash. He is not giving you a chance to solve the problems. He will take you down.
A bad job is unlikely to be the cause of this. There has to be more.
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
10 Jan 07
well, he did give me the checks and the bills to do but then when i tried to budget he'd spend money without telling me and i was always overdrawing the account. then getting charged up the butt. Basicly he loves credit cards and he bought all this crap we dont need and then we got all these bills now. Then the truck payments are alot and the truck is a gas hog. Its just that the income from his job is not enough to pay the bills. So i got tired of being in charge of everything with no help and always guessing what was left cuz he likes to use his card. he was eating out every day at work for lunch. He spent so much money on food which is totally not necessary cuz i offered tomake him lunch.
anyways, it was bad communication and now we're screwed. and pi*ssed off at eachother.
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@DinaDi (60)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Kudos to Stephanie! I totally agree with her. Your husband needs to grow up and accept the responsibility of having a family. Hiding won't solve his problems, only make them worse, as it's obviously done already. If he loved you, he wouldn't be allowing you to handle all the obligations that marriage and kids bring. Sounds to me like he's depressed and needs some professional help. But first you really do need to cut up all those credit cards. Communication is vitally important in a marriage, but not if it's always one-sided. If he doesn't want to get help, and refuses to do anything about the situation, and nothing is going to change, I say dump him. He's a loser and not worth it.
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@Stephanie5 (2946)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Honey, take the damn credit cards and cut them in half, smack him upside the head and tell him that if that's the way he wants to live his life, then he's going to be doing it without you!! Don't take that crap, tell him to GROW UP!!! And tell him if he thinks he's got no money now, wait till he has to pay child support cause you two are seperated!!
I'm sorry, I know I'm being mean, but it makes me so mad that people are like this, and not just men, but women also! (my ex-hubby must be related to your man somehow, lol) He needs a wake up call BIGTIME! And you are really the only one that can give it to him. Good Luck!
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@BunGirl (2638)
• United States
10 Jan 07
Maybe you should sit down with him and discuss this the same way you just told all of us. Tell him that you aren't ready to give up yet but you need his help for your partnership to work. Tell him that he needs to be there for you and for your kids. Tell him you'll support him if he wants to find another job, but until he does he just needs to suck it up and press on, no matter how much he wants to give up.
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@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
10 Jan 07
thanks for the advice . i will continue to get through to him even though it is like talking to a plant sometimes.
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@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
thank you all for your advice. it is all so wonderful. i love it.
@cwgrlsarefun (1581)
• United States
11 Jan 07
I have to say that I agree here. You need to sit with him and talk it out. Tell him everything that is bothering you and how you truly feel. Then allow him to speak and get it all out before you say anything. Once the two of you have gotten it all out you should be able to openly discuss and come to some kind of agreement. First though you need to find out why he locks himslef away and he needs to know how you truly feel about him doing this. Let him know that you are there for him and that you need to know that he is there for you.
@acosjo (1903)
• Canada
10 Jan 07
This discussion really hit me because of what I have been through. I'm sorry you have to go through this. I now there is two sides of this and will only go by what you tell us.
I get so angry with people that do not take resposibility. I would be by my wife and kids's side every step of the way, regardless if things are a little down. I'd also be taking care of my wife while she is pregnant!
Your husband has got to take responsibility and stop being a gosh darn (you know what I really mean) COWARD & be by his family's side!!!!!!! GROW UP YOU PUNK A$$ B%*CH!!
I apologise for my words, but I would never leave my family ever!!!!!!!
You should talk, but do what you feel is ultimately in the best interest of your children and you!
I really wish you the best & trust all will work out. Keep your chin up and always get things off your chest. We are hear to listen.
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@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
aww. you're so sweet and made me laugh a little bit. yes i am not claiming to be a victim as i did put all my trust in him with faith. But i let myself be too trusting and i really think he tried but is giving up now because he is not ready to grow up yet. he is only 23 and i know that is really young. but i chose to be with him because he seemed more mature than most guys i dated but he just isnt there yet i guess.
thank you for your advice and kind words. take care
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
thank you for your advice. yes our relationship is in love. that s all we have now.
@birthlady (5609)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Hi Dragonflyfli,
Is this new behavior? Have you considered counseling with your husband? It sounds like your husband is having trouble handling all of the stress. If you go home to your mom, you may have more physical comforts, emotional support, and less stress. It seems like you want to go home to your mom. The best I can say is you must think of your health and the baby you are carrying right now. Do what you must, for the benefit of children.
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@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
12 Jan 07
hi, this is behavior that has been going on since october of 2006 now. I set up some counseling but he refused to go. he just seems like he doesnt care anymore. and today i told him i forgive him of everything and that i want to wipe the slate clean and that i want to stay and stick it out with him then he responded that he wants me to go to ny and that he wishes he was single.
im so upset now and im freaking out .. i dont know what to do now. he doesnt seem to care and now i feel like a sinking ship ..
i might have to leave now that this is going on. I dont knwo if i can handle anymore of this.
@purplewolf (462)
• Canada
10 Jan 07
You poor thing. I know exactly how you feel as I have had a couple of long term relationships like that. It's a very difficult choice, but you have to do what's best for you and your child. It sounds like he had a very selfish attitude, but now he's realizing his mistakes too late. I would advise you to go to your mom if you can, at least for a while and see if he straightens out. Don't let him drag you down with him. I left and am so glad I did as my kids were better for it. Now that they are adults they understand that I did what I thought was best for them and they agree that it would have been wrong for me to stay. You have enough to worry about with the kids and if he can't be a responsible parent and face reality you have to go. There's a poem I heard once about what kids learn when we think they are not watching and whatever you choose to do, that's the lesson you will teach them and the cycle will repeat itself.
Good luck and please let us know how it goes.
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
thank you so muchfor the advice i appreciate your experience in the matter and your wisdom as well.
@earthmama97 (597)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Oh dear, I am so sorry you are going through this. It sounds just awful. It sounds like this stress is very unhealthy for you and I'm sure your two children as well. It sounds like he is in a depression of sorts and might benifit greatly by seeing a doctor for it. If that doesn't work, maybe you should get away for a time explaining that you just need to be away from the stress. Make it clear you want to still have a relationship etc..but you need him to get out of this depression and get back to being a loving, caring person for you and the children. I think it is especially importand you remain as stress free as possible while pregnant. Good luck with this. I hope everything works out for you guys!
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
thank you for yoru advice. it is nice to read what you wrote.
@snowflake5 (1579)
• United States
11 Jan 07
If it's his job that's the problem, then that's the thing that needs fixing. Make him send out CVs for another job.
Also, it sounds like you need incme quick. Is there a part-time job you can do? Also, after the baby is born, I think you need some birth control. I don't think you can afford that many children - three kids and the wife not working - these days, no-one makes enough to pay for that.
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Oh boy. i dont know if i should get involved in this one..... lol..... but i will say that it was kind of rude but understandable snowflake. and i'd like to say that the first child was not expected and I though i was unable to have children but shocked to find out i was pregnant. the second child we decided to have because he got a new job that was very promising and the pay was very high and we wanted our first to have a playmate. as for the third, i dont know why everyone thinks theres a third one? maybe i mistyped something. but to clear this up now, i have one child and another one on the way and i am getting my tubes tied after this one is born because i want to prosue my career as a mortician which i have one semester left to finish then im making $30 an hour. i just have no energy now to go to college. im very busy withthe family.
i do not judge anyone who has multipal children adn i think it is wonderful and brave to do that. how else would we be born if acident didnt happen. As most of us are accidents.
@sexysilver (928)
• United States
11 Jan 07
That's pretty rude to say. How do you know that she wasn't on birth control? I posted right below you and I also have two kids & a third on the way. I stay at home & my husband works. It would be more expensive to hire someoneelse to care for my children considering one will have a feeding tube which I feel comfortable taking the extra time to work her feeding pump & she needs physical & occupation therapy DAILY, but most people don't feel comfortable with that (most who do feel comfortable that I've met also come with a nursing degree - aka expensive babysitters).
On top of all that ALL THREE of my children were concieved while both my husband and I were using protection.
After my second baby I wanted my tubes tied, but I wasn't "qualified". This time around I will meet the requirements though.
@Sarah1977 (495)
• United States
11 Jan 07
It sounds like your husband is depressed....that is why he is withdrawing from you and the reality of life. If I were you, I would encourage him to get some professional help to deal with his depression. I also believe 100% that you should stand by your man, no matter what. Isn't that what marriage is all about? I have been married for 10 years now, and I can honestly tell you that the first 2 years were the hardest for us. Like you, we had children very quickly, which contributed to a feeling of being overwhelmed. Women are natural caregivers for their children, while men can feel trapped, especially if everything happens so quickly. In my opinion, your husband is going through a tough time emotionally, and he needs help to sort it all out. He obviously loves you and your children very much, or he would have left already...Please stick with him, and help him get the help he needs to get through this.....it will get better!
@dmillman (2273)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Been there, done that, MADE the t-shirt (hehehe). I know what you're going through. You definitely need to talk to him. When you do, don't blame him. You have to start on the positive side first. Maybe a little remiscing of how things used to be. Tell him of the things you miss. After, tell him that when he does xxx, if makes you feel xxx, and then you can't do xxx. Let him know that you would like his help so that you can do xxx, for him and the family. Maybe if he's told why things are so important, he'll understand. If not, he could try counseling. If he's not up for that, tell him you'd like to try couples counseling.
I did couples counseling and it worked out great. She talked to the both of us together to se how we interact and such. Then she seperates us and talks to each of us, to get each side of the story. Then she saw what the problem was and to explain it to us, and then try to help us solve it.
Heck, if he's not willing to give it a try for you, him and the kids, then maybe he's already given up. You might want to ask that some nice way some time. Probably better to bring it up in group counseling though. It's probably safer that way.
I wish you the best of luck. I know it's not fun at all to go through. I hopw you will keep us all posted so that we know how things are going.
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
thank you for your advice. its nice to hear from people who have been through simular situations. it is wonderful to know im not all alone. i tried the counseling but he refused to go. i would love to go and i think it may be the only thing to save us so i will start to ask him again to go and see if his veiws have changed on the matter.
thanks for everyting,
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
20 Jan 07
yeah. im going to counseling . im asking him to go if he refuses still to go then im leaving him. plain and simplwe
@dmillman (2273)
• United States
11 Jan 07
You're welcome! You could always go to counseling on your own, for your own sake. It might be what you need to get you through this. You should have to suffer because he doesn't want to go. Wt least you'll the help and tools that you need. Heck, maybe there's a support group that you could try. It might be easier to convince him to go to a support group instead. Some people just don't like "shrinks"! Don't forget to let us know how it all turns out! Keep trying, stay positive, and you never know what will happen!
@tastymoon1 (86)
• Pakistan
12 Jan 07
Well i am not in marriage experience but the case you are discussing being a mature man i think both of you must sit and talk seriously about the problem you are facing and ask him to not hide him self from the reality.
Try to be soft in your discussion don't use harsh language during the the discussion. I think both of you have the responsibility of whats going on. Sit aside discuss it and then divide the responsibilities and you will be free from all the troubles.
Confess to god and you will be relieved very much. unexpectedly
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@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
12 Jan 07
okay. well. that would be wonderful but he wont talk to me no matter what aproach i take.
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@GURPREET28 (102)
• India
20 Jan 07
i m not blaming anyone but atleast u shud have a good talk with him before taking any step .........
@sanell (2112)
• United States
11 Jan 07
wow, I know that has happened with me and my spouse but he has been good about making sure our bills at least get paid. but he does tend to go into this depressive cave and just want things to eventually go away, I get really frustrated when he does it because he will stay in bed all day, all night, all day , all night and then after I have done laundry, dishes, made dinner for kids, for him and I get on my computer he says something like "YOu are always on your computer" and it is like "Dude do not even go there"
I do not say anything because I know for a fact he would be really upset and take it personal, so I have just taken things and let them slide off my back.
In your situation I would tell him that he does not need to make things a sinking ship but that you have to do what is right for your children and if it means maybe going to stay with your mom for a bit then maybe that is what you have to do. My DH and I talked about that too, when our power went out, we had really no one to go to because their power was out too. well, when his sister still had power out we invited them to stay at our house since we had power and they were just being the martyrs and would not come. they would just stay in their cold and dark house and then complain complain complain.
My husband said to them, you really should not be complaining you are kind of doing this to yourselves, we have invited you over COUNTLESS number of times but you keep turning us down so now we are not going to ask you anymore.
I told DH that if I had the offer, and he did not want to go I would be SO going and he said that he would not at all blame me for doing that...
Okay so anyway, you just have to do what is right for you and your kids and it is not meaning divorce or separation it is just that he needs a kick to get back into the swing of things and if he does not do that then you have no choice but to keep a roof over you and his childrens head.
That is also why I started my home business because I was tired of just seeing our money go out the door and then when he would get depressed he would just go lay in bed, while I was still the one with the kids...I kept saying I could get a job but his pride would get in the way and there is no way he would do well with the kids for a whole day,
Well things are back on track now, so hang in there, I am sure that things will work out,...
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
wow. your story is a very touching one. i am sorry you had to go through that. it sounds very frusterating but im glad things turned out for the better. it si alwwyas good to hear that things are not meant to stay down on the ground that they do get better eventually. i just try and try and it seems each effort i make is not respected and combatted with every resource possible. i just keep getting back of though to fight the next losing war. yeah im pesimistic but trying to be respsonible.
your advice was wonderful and i loved to read about your experiences .. tanks again. take car.
@innechen (1318)
• Indonesia
11 Jan 07
i was in your situation for over 7 yrs before we get married, he often find a bad job and most of the time was unemployee.but he never spend money coz he dont have any,he also sont have a credit card.but i still stand by him but also with anger etc.but i still keep encourage him to find a job and support him by give him understanding to responsible.good thing that i'm working so i pay all the bills and expenses.thats why i think even women are married it'll be better if both husband and wife are working so they can support eachother in financial.in your case u do what ur heart tells u too.try to give ur husband understanding so he will have a spirit to find a new job.if then its not working and when u feel enough is enough then u should go home for a while so u can think more clearly on what u should do.
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
thanks for the wondereful advice. i was working with my last pregnancy up until i was 8 months pregnant. but this time i feel too tired adn also this new job was mcuh higher paying than his last one and we felt it would be okay if i quit and stayed home with my son. also daycare is too expensive that i would be paying more than im a making.
anyways. there always seems to be an obstical in the way no matter what i do. and the answer is so complicated due to circumstances. in my life i always just have to hold on and try again.
@anne_143god (5387)
• Philippines
11 Jan 07
Maybe you are just on the stage that pregnant woman hates their husband and you should not end up loosing your relationship. Maybe you should talk about it on a nice way for you to understand each other without tension.
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
yeah ive played with that idea. it is possible. i knwo i am more emotional than i was before but the reality is there as well. so i think im not able to think as clearly as i would normaly because of the hormones. but im trying the best i can.
@jenbatres (799)
• United States
11 Jan 07
When you married you married for better or worse. Why are you not working to help pay the bills? If your bills are that high, you should not be at home while your husband is working. Many women work in this day and age.
I work 9-10 hours every day and so does my man. We have 3 kids to support -- they are all mine to a previous marriage, and I am also expecting. In order to make the bills we both have to work-- many families have to have 2 incomes to pay rent, electric, phone, car payments. Maybe you can look for a part time job and family could help you with child care until your family gets back on your feet. Best of luck and I hope you were not offended by my post because that was not my intention.
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
i can see how everyone is angry withme. but we decided to have this second child because he got a new job that paid much more and we were going to have alot more money. but then things went bad. but i am looking for a job and i have never been unemployed before in my life and im 1 semester away from getting a good degree in mortuary science but now i can t do all that. i willmost likely struggle with the classes and working is hard when daycare is really expensive and you only have one car to share between the two of you and there is absolutely no family to help with babysitting .. all i can do i get a job on the weekends but no one will hire me because i can only work on the weekennds and im going to be out of work soon on maturnity leave. i tried getting a job at h nr block for tax season adn alot of other accountant places but they all said they already hired 0people forthe job.im really trying to get a job but things just arent working out right now in that department.
@faraz38 (7)
• Pakistan
11 Jan 07
Dont cry in love because the person for whom u r crying does not deserve your tear and the one who deserve it will never let u cry
he will take a good care of u
but u have taken a wrong deccision in my eyes but now its not the time to curse him
try to change him and try to be with him
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
wow. this is a very interesting response. from a very different point of veiw. thanks for that.
@fiveisallofus (273)
• United States
11 Jan 07
OMG you sound like me and my hubby. We have been married a year and he was aupposed to have the job that was suppose to make eveything better. Well it didnt!! And here we are struggling like hell with three kids. When things get like that,and they do, I through him the check book and all the bills and tell him to do it. This usually overwhelms him. Or if that does not work then I write everything down and show him the negative $$$. If that still does not work I will have a sit down and it gets UGLY!! I usually start off by telling him to be a MAN and step up! He helped start this situatuion and he needs to be responsible.
BUT most important he is your HUSBAND! you need to stick together for better or worse....remeber that? If you need to be the strong one for awhile then so be it. Get tough! take over the financial including the credit cards! He probably feels as if he has let you down. I could talk forever on this. REMEBER, you promised to him no matter what...its just money!! you can get through it, you love each other! Dont forget about the babies!! :)
@dragonflyfli (5528)
• United States
11 Jan 07
wow. your situation is alot like mine. thanks for the advice. i have done alot of what you have done as well. he he. it s crapy and tireing after a while. but i think im handing the financial stuff over to him fo rnow. im done as of now. just tired of it. knowing me i'll step up in a week or two and look over stuff and start plannign agin.