Trash Talking...

@Chapman15 (1492)
United States
January 10, 2007 8:19pm CST
Today I was at work and you always can hear people talking around you! I heard some solid truthful trash talking going down close to me! It wasn't about me, but it was about one of my friends at work... The thing about it was that it was all true, he is pretty slow, sometimes sloppy with his work, but should I have to stand up for him even if I agreed with them!?! What's better to be truthful or loyal to my buddy? I decided to step up to bat for him, and tell them that was crazy talk and brought up some of the good things he's done! I guess I lied, to myself!?! Too bad we can't just say everything we want to all the time! And, why was I vouching for someone who isn't all that competent anyways? I guess I like trash talking too much, maybe I'm just competitive that way, proving that I'm right! Why does it empower us to belittle someone or something else?
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9 responses
• United States
11 Jan 07
If nothing was false, you had nothing to stick up for. I don't know if talking trash has anything to do with competition or empowerment, but I do know it sometimes has a cheap thrill effect.
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@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
11 Jan 07
YEah, but he's my good friend and you can't let someone not have some third party help!
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• United States
11 Jan 07
I would have stood up for my friend.
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• United States
11 Jan 07
Well, then what're ya cryin' about?! LOL Did I read it wrong or were you feeling bad because you stayed out of it? Now me confused...
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@spcbrass (1190)
• United States
12 Jan 07
People use trash talking as a way to pet their egos. When we talk down or belittle peopl eit is often because we think that we are superior to them in some way. Now if those guys had a legitamate beef with your buddy because he screwed something up then they can chastise him a bit, but that still doesn't get the job done. If they go too far then sure stick up for your buddy and let them know that if they would spend half the time working that they do putting people down then a whole lot more would get done. Sometimes trash talking is fun though, like when I tell everyone that my team is going to whoop thier teams butt this week, that sort of good natured ribbing is ok in my book until it becomes personal. Then it is immature and shows lack of respect. As long as the trash talking doens't become personal then I see no big problem with it.
@spcbrass (1190)
• United States
12 Jan 07
You are absolutely right, a professional environment is no place for it. Basketball is one of the best sports to talk trash in, especially in pick up games. My favorite thing to do though is shut down a trash talker with great defense. Nothing satisfies me more then being quiet and shutting my man down then being able to make my only words of the game that last words of that game!
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@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
12 Jan 07
Yeah, there are times and places for it, and a professional enviornment isn't one of them! I fully agree that it's fun to talk trash in sports as I love to in basketball!
@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
15 Jan 07
LOL, I love shutting down the trash talker especially because they are usually the worst player out there!
@kokopelli (4842)
• United States
20 Jan 07
well, if i were the one in your shoes, i'm sure i'd defend my friend but not in the same way. i'll be telling those people they may be right but trash talking like that wouldn't help the person at all so they better stop it. then i'd talk to my friend (but not mention about those trashtalkers) and tell him, like it's all coming from me, in a way i know would be effective with him, how he should change some things for his own sake and benefit. then help him make the changes. i'm glad i got a mylot friend who got such kind of loyalty to his friend. i just wonder if you'd stand up for me like that too, lol!
@kokopelli (4842)
• United States
21 Jan 07
oh, i'm petite, just sounding like a huge ol'mamah! lol! that's good if you told your friend, i'm sure he appreciates it :)
@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
20 Jan 07
Oh, I would unless your a huge muscle person that could beat me to a pulp if I said the wrong thing, then I might handle things differently lol! That's a good idea though, I have tried to help him understand some things better, so maybe he could be a little more efficient!
@Perry2007 (2229)
• Philippines
14 Jan 07
We need to acknowledge some of our incompetence to improve on them, You could have bat in in defence for your friend but not necessarily telling lies, It is also so natural to stand up for friends because there is a saying that goes like "tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are". So if you are a true friend find a way to give these feed backs to your friend and help him improve on his incompetence.
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@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
15 Jan 07
Yeah, that's a good point... Maybe I should tell my buddy what some of the others think he's doing wrong! Then he could possibly correct them!
@mzbubblie (3839)
• United States
14 Jan 07
I admit I do trash talk also, not to belittle someone unless we joking on each other.. But at the workplace it's a no no, I work in a professional enviroment and a alot of older people that I've grown to respect and know they don't like to hear things of that sort. I commend you for sticking up for your friend, and yes trash talking can be fun. I believe even the ones who say that don't think it just don't say it outloud. Me on the other I will from watching football to something simple as just me and my friend cutting up.. Some people do take it overboard and take it real personal when they trash talk, I guess it's really the content and how serious this person is which would make a difference like in your case with stickin up for your friend...
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@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
15 Jan 07
It really does depend on the context, I have no problem making a racist or "risky" comment to good friends... I don't think it's has a place at work though, because it may give others the wrong impression of someone and the way they work!
@nuttmeg (440)
• United States
13 Jan 07
To me, there's maybe having not-so-nice thoughts about a person that might be the downright truth, I think that's just natural human behavior, but then there's ragging on the person behind their back to others. It's both tactless and immature, especially in the work place. I think it's a good thing that you stuck up for him, since it sounds like they were being out of line and it's just wrong in general. Some people just can't help it. My ex-hubby is what you might consider slow and wasn't all that competent either, but that doesn't mean he was a bad person or deserved to be ragged on by others, because he's actually a good guy and hard-working when it comes down to it. I wouldn't call it lying, to yourself or the situation, but rather just being a decent human being. At least you were decent enough to bring up the good things about him and on a positive note. And yeah, sometimes it does feel good to put jerks in their place, nothing wrong with that either, and it certainly sounds like they deserved it.
@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
13 Jan 07
Yeah, there's nothing more satisfying than putting something back in someones face that deserves it lol! It's funny how "slow" does become incompetent, and in some cases it isn't fair, because they just maybe more thorough than most of us!
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@cNotable (891)
• United States
13 Jan 07
That's unfortunate that trash talk is all around us. Everyone talks about people when they are not around. YOu are right, it is about elevating ourselves by pushing others down in what you say about them. I like trash talking though too. I guess it is a natural human thing. Although there are some people who don't talk ish on other people--but I don't know them!!!hahaha
@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
13 Jan 07
Everybody does to some extent, but I guess there is a time and place for everything!
@mgmagana (3618)
• United States
13 Jan 07
because we feel bigger and better, but it does hurt when the tables r turned! i always tell myself wut a person don't know won't hurt them! and if they find out ur the one looking stupid! and u obviously weren't working too hard in not letting people know u were talking about them!
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@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
13 Jan 07
whaaa? I wasn't making anyone look stupid!?! I actually was helping my buddy not look stupid!
@shywolf (4514)
• United States
11 Jan 07
Hey, it was very sweet of you to stand up for your friend and point out some of the things that he does well! ^_^ I don't think that that is lying to yourself. No matter if what those people were saying had truth in it, there were good qualities to this guy and you were just standing up for him and letting them know that he does have his good points! *laugh* I think that it's really kind of you to have done so. I don't know what it is in human nature that causes some people to enjoy belittling others. I really don't enjoy it at all. It is so much more rewarding to bring joy into other people's lives, and I would much rather spend my time attemping to do so! ^_^
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@Chapman15 (1492)
• United States
11 Jan 07
So, are you saying that being a shy person you wouldn't have done it lol! I too am curious why so many people just sit around and llike to belittle people! I think it may make people feel better, because they know they are better than who they are talking about... Eventhough these two definately weren't!