marriage

@citygirl (1080)
Canada
January 13, 2007 8:25pm CST
Would or should you stay in a marriage that you are not happy in ? Do you think it is better for the children if you stay together happy, or not. Do you think it is better for the children to not stay in a situation where neither is happy ? What would you do in that situation ?
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@Poison_Girl (4150)
• United States
15 Jan 07
Nope. The marriage has to come first. This is something Greg Behrendt (relationship expert) always points out. The family can't work out if the backbone (the husband and wife) aren't happy together. The kids see that.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
21 Jan 07
Really, and if there is no back bone because they have pulled it apart. A relationship expert does not live in the house twenty four seven. Do you really think if a couple are unhappy, no love, etc that it will be a health place for kids. I don't.
@defeated (141)
• United States
14 Jan 07
Just my 2c worth - what is the point of staying in a marriage if you are miserable? For "the sake of the kids"? Have seen the results of that too many times....parents THINK they are putting up a good front - when in reality, the kids DO know their parents aren't happy - and often times the kids blame themselves for it. That's just not right or fair to the kids at all. Please think about that too :(
@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
My thoughts too. I agree with you one hundred percent. Happy new year to you.
• Philippines
14 Jan 07
Well I think if you are not happy with your partner anymore it is best to slowly jsut part ways and look for ur individual happiness. NOt happy in marriage and yet u opt to stay together leads to more problems in the future. This will lead to conflict with ur partner and the essential ingredients of a happy marriage will also vanished. And this may be traumatic to ur children I think its better to part ways when ur not happy anymore. Talk to ur children to make them understand of the situation. Everyone deserves to be happy.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I agree with you Keeping your children in such an unhappy home can't be good for them.
@kmgupta (561)
• India
14 Jan 07
what will happen to children
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
18 Jan 07
I agree with you. I also believe some divorces can be amiable. The children are better off with two happy parents , rather than two unhappy ones.
• Philippines
14 Jan 07
i think both parents should stay together for their children, if they're not happy, try fixing things our, try some sort of advice maybe from elders, it's good if you would seek some advice from christian people, also try to join small group for couple in christian community concerning your that matter. Quiting is the worst thing a person can do.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I don't agree with you at all. Do you really thing getting advice from a christian person is going to change all the reasons the couple are unhappy. I think that kind of attitude is what hurts the children. It also make them know that the unhappy partener isn't worth anything and neither are they.
@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
18 Jan 07
Yes that was the direction I ment this post in. Thanks
• United States
15 Jan 07
I don't really agree with this either. I think that sometimes.. not enough prayers, talking etc. will fix a broken marriage & why would you want to stay & put your kids through that? Making them think that this is what a relationship is supposed to be like.. so they go on to seek out the same types of relationship and continue in this vicious cycle.. (which I'm not saying would happen all the time) but, has happend. If it's just a fight-- then yes.. seek counseling, talk to elders, friends etc... but, I'm sure this isn't what this question is directed towards is one fight. A child will be better off in a happy home than in an unhappy marriage.
14 Jan 07
Hi I think it is very important to do what is best for the person who is not happy in the marriage. I have been married twice, first time we had two kids and I stayed in that marraige for 15 years because of the kids, eventually I decided I had enough, the kids were affected by it sure but they would have been affected less if I had ended it sooner. I then stayed single for 12 years, because I didn't want to bring another dad into the family for my kids, they were hard but happy days. When the kids grew up I married again, disaster, after eight years its over, I only gave the bad years a short time and then pulled out. Happiness is about you, your kids will not be happy if you are not.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I agree with you. Stess sucks and kids are under stress in such a relationship.
• United States
15 Jan 07
If I wasn't happy just because the marriage got boring or I wanted something else.. but, my husband was wonderful & no abuse in any form. I would stay for my children. If this was the case & I was feeling this way-- I would hopefully find a way to get back what we once had through whatever means it took. But, if I was in an abusive relationship either verbal or abusive & it wasn't getting better.. I would GET OUT FOR MY KIDS & myself. That type of a relationship wouldn't be good for your children to be in. I think if you are a HAPPY parent, your children will be happy and adjust to life accordingly.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
21 Jan 07
I do think honestly is best for the kids. Happyness to a degree is required for all to function properly and life peacefully don't you think.
15 Jan 07
surely if the husband (or wife) was wonderful there should not be a problem with a marriage. A boring marriage would mean one or other partner was not wonderful, certainly if you can get to the bottom of the "why have we changed thing" and if possible work at regaining the good years that would be great and good for the kids but in my experience something made the good things go away and its hard to grab them back. Quite possibly one married too young and changed as the years went on or married for the wrong reasons. Whatever way, we only fool ourselves if we think staying together in a bad marriage, whether boring, abusive, adulterous, or any other reason for the sake of the kids would be better for the kids. Honesty is the best thing for the kids.
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• United States
14 Jan 07
I think it would be best to do all you can to make the marriage happy, or to be happy no matter what. Divorce is not an answer to most problems, it is an additional one
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@kmgupta (561)
• India
14 Jan 07
may be true
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@oresal (1350)
• El Salvador
14 Jan 07
well, if u really care for ur kids ull try and keep a healthy relationship with ur partner. if u cannot and if u and ur partner are having difficulties, try and think on ur kids, theyre the reason u should stay together, ur kids might actually help u to solve ur problems with ur partner, if not, i think u should at least try to seem happy in front of them and stay together, cause its no longer ur problem, its also ur kids problems, and if u made a comitment, or not, to have kids, all ur problems are theirs too. if u definetely cant stay together, divorce but try and both spent the same amount of time with ur kids, and try to not to ignore each other, keep a healthy and friendly relationship once divorced, even if thats impossible for u 2, its extremely important for ur kids, not to see u mad at each other, this would definetely cause severe emotional problems to them. if u decide to form a family and have kids with someone else, thats ok, but remember u had a family before this one, so u should try and involve ur 1st kids with ur 2nd family, let them know theyre still a huge part in ur life, make sure they see ur new kids as brothers and sisters and not my mom's/dad's kids. just my opinion
@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I totally disagree with you to. Are you married? Do you have kid? I wasn't asking for advise. I was asking what you would do. Is this what you would do?
@defeated (141)
• United States
14 Jan 07
Sorry - I have to disagree. This is coming from a person with personal experience - my parents were divorced in the late 1950's - my dad got custody of me (that DIDN'T usually happen back in those days). My dad married my stepmom in 1960 - and I have 2 half sisters and a half brother. I very vaguely remember my dad and mom being together because I was so young - but even at that young age I DO remember thinking *I* had done something wrong was why they were having arguements. And to this day, over 40+ years later, I still remember that. So putting on "happy faces" for the kids doesn't truly work - kids do see right though it. JM2CW on it.
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@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
18 Jan 07
It is proven fact that children will sense when their parents are not happy in the marriage. This makes for a very unhappy and unhealthy environment for the children to live in. If two people are unhappy in marriage, it is impossible to prevent that feeling from seeping into every other aspect of their lives, and when this happens everyone is affected by it. It is also not good to teach your children that this type of unhappy relationship is something good, because our children learn about their own future relationships from what they see in their parent's relationship. Long ago, it was expected that husbands and wives stayed in miserable relationships, even abusive relationships, because society said divorce was taboo. Today, too many people fail to take the time to know their partners before they get into serious committments. If they learn to take the time to know the other person, they would see the full characteristics and personality (good and bad traits). Chances are what will make them unhappy and miserable in the marriage was very evident before the marriage, but they choose to blind themselves for whatever reason.
@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
21 Jan 07
Okay I just gave you one hundred percent. I agree with every single thing you said. I hope everyone who responded to this reads your resonse. Thank you and all the best to you.
@UcoksBaBa (800)
• Indonesia
15 Jan 07
The unhappy marriage and the impact for the child when you carried out the divorce ,did that was best according to was discussed by you with your couple about this looked for the solution for you, thought about what resulting from, from the divorce when that the road to resolve the problem of the unhappy marriage, don't become egoistic humankind all that could in discussed with the cold head and have the solution for you problem.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
21 Jan 07
I don't have a problem, I am single. My question was what would you do. Did you think you should stay or leave.
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
14 Jan 07
I don't think anyone should stay married for their kids. It's not appropriate; because it teaches them that they're own happiness doesn't matter. They also pick up all the negative energy from their parents with all the fighting and yelling. I'm so glad my parents got divorced; they were a bad match of people who should have never gotten married, period.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I think everyone should read you response and it might make them think. I agree one hundred percent with everything you said. You got your head on your shoulders I can see. Happy new year to you and all the best.
• United States
14 Jan 07
I was in a marriage for 11 1/2 years...I (stupidly) thought my parents wouldn't help me when I turned up pregnant (this man REFUSED to allow me to get an abortion). I was 21 when he proposed (it was my birthday--"we have to get married" is a crappy proposal!) and was immediately regretting saying yes. We didn't know each other at all (he didn't even have a full time job!) And it continued to go downhill...his mother telling me I was an abusive mother b/c I didn't instantly wake when my daughter cried (I was fighting the flu and collapsed after work)...constant accusations (of his) about my alleged infidelity, nitpicking b/c I was in postpartum depression, etc. I asked for a separation before our fourth anniversary (his NO was heard everywhere). The verbal abuse escalated and the cops regularly called because he made me feel threatened (6'1" to 5'3"). I formally asked for a divorce in 1998 (still a NO). I began working 2, 3, 4 jobs every day of the week, 5 of them 18 hours+ a day. I never saw my daughter. That same year I was dx'd with MS and he threatened to keep my kid away forever. It continued downhill and I really snapped in 2002 when my mom passed on and he told me 6 months later "get over it". In 2003 it took a friendship with a coworker where WE TOOK OUR CHILDREN TO THE FRANKLIN INSTITUTE for my (now ex-) husband to leave (he had planned it for a while anyway). I was absolutely miserable, living with someone who was clinically depressed (diagnosed by 3 or 4 doctors but refused treatment) and so unhappy I was considering killing myself to escape. I gained a lot of weight, started smoking again and drank myself into oblivion on several occasions during this time--totally out of character. I cannot fathom being married again...just living together is fine with me.
@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
My heart goes out to you. I to believe this kind of relationship can seriously damage a kid. I was in an unhappy marriage for 20 years. I stuck it out for the kids to, but when My oldest turned 15 and was leaving because she couldn't stand him I thought what are you doing. Fool your staying for the kids and they can't stand him either. The more you talk about it the better you will get inside you know. All the best and a happy healthy new year to you.
• United States
14 Jan 07
Oh yeah, our daughter is permanently scarred by the constant fighting and is afraid to have a relationship when she gets older.
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@mrstigs (63)
• United States
15 Jan 07
This is a really hard question to answer not knowing why you are not happy. If you are not happy due to abuse, the answer is clearly that you should get out and be safe. If the issue on the other hand is something that is something that is likely to pass or could be worked out by going to counseling and some behavior changes then it would be better to work to save the marriage. You loved this person at one time enough to commit to spend the rest of your years together, what changed?
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
15 Jan 07
Hello I guess you have a wee bit of problem with comprehension. I don't have a problem and I am very happy. I am not talking about me I am talking about you. Go back and read the question again . I really am trying to get peoples opinion on this question.
• United States
14 Jan 07
My parents always tried to act like nothing was wrong between them when us kids were around. At night, we heard the yelling and screaming. I remember hiding under the covers hoping they weren't going to pull me out of bed to go anywhere. I always thought our mom would take us and go. It scares children not knowing what's going to happen. If there is a sense of tension in the house, I promise they can sense it. I would not stay with someone when happiness was not around.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I agree with you. This is a perfect example of what I think happens to the kids in this type relationship. A happy new year to you and all the best.
@shywolf (4514)
• United States
14 Jan 07
I do not see the point in staying together if you are both unhappy. Of course, if at all possible, a lot of talking and communication should take place first, and hopefully some marriage counselling if the couple can afford to do so. It is always best to try and give it a go first. Not just give up straight away. I think that far too many people don't even try to communicate and work their problems out, and just get divorced before they really think it through. I also understand children being a major concern. But I don't think that the children are going to be very happy growing up in a household where the parents are emotionally at each other's throats all the time, either.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
Sounds like advise. I wasn't looking for advise. So is this what you would do, or your sujestions for others?
• India
14 Jan 07
before marraige we live for us , after marraige we live together, after children we need to live for them
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
YOu made a statement of some kind but you haven't answered the question? So which way would you live for them?
• United States
14 Jan 07
No, staying in a situation that you're not happy in will definitely not be beneficial to anyone involved. The kids will feel the tension and become unhappy themselves.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I think so to highflyingangel. I like you name to it is cute. Happy new year to you.
• Iraq
14 Jan 07
City Girl, that is a mistake that everyone makes. You can still be a good parent to your child if you are separated. If you are in an abusive relationship or just a relationship that involves arguing or a long separation period between the spouses then it would be worse for the children.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I actually am not looking for advise, as I am not in that situation but is this what you would do. I am asking people what they would do or have done. so is this what you would do?
• India
14 Jan 07
humm..i think...if ther's a case of divorse, it shld be avaided..as far as effect on children is concerned, parents shld make some compromise, settle the fight bet. them, and sld live happily, all otgethr in a happy family...with this children ll be benifited
@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
i think you live in a dream world.
• United States
14 Jan 07
I think that if you are not happy in the marriage that it reflects on the children(they are smarter than we know) I think you owe it to yourself,you kids and your significant other to be happy in life and if that means divorce, so be it.
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@citygirl (1080)
• Canada
14 Jan 07
I agree with you. A happy new year to you .