All the Smokers out there, Talk to me!

I think bars should at least be able to smoke inside them. Thats like the whole point of their being there. You go to a bar to drink, smoke and have a good time. And yes they are losing a ton of business by the city not letting people smoke in bars. Now on the restuarant deal. Yes they have smoking and non-smoking sections but I use to smoke and then I became pregnant and now I know why people are always complaining about the smell. I stoped smoking and I can smell it anywheres. I'm like a dog hunting for a rabbit on a rabbit trail. I can smell is in the car when I'm driving and a car goes by smoking a ciggerette and I'm sure thats what they non-smokers smell when they are sitting trying to enjoy their meal at a restuarant that has a smoking section. Non-smokers just dont like to smell the smell of a ciggerette burning. And yeah it does stink if you arnt a smoker. Now some restuarants have an enclosed smoking section and those are good. Like dennys (if you have one) they have an enclosed smoking section and they still have a smoking section in their restuarant. But that is my point of view on non-smoking and smoking. thank you for taking the time to read it.

yes , i agree with you, but you know this brings more discipline to the society.. as a citizen we must take of that responsibility.. our act of smoking should not disturb others or provoke others to smoke .. at the same time there must be some places where only smokers must be allowed and caution should be hanged for non smokers that passive smoking may occur.. how is this?

you are right this is the same problem i face ....where ever i go smoking is restricted and i just cant control my anger

The truth of the matter is that there is no test that can run to prove that smoking causes anything. The information you are going by is information that is done in studies. They are a veriety of people with many differences. In order for these studies to actually accurate. They would have to take a certain number of people that are the same age, same gender, work in the same enviroment, eat the same types of food and have the same life styles. This study however, doesn't happen because we are all so different. Please look on the American Cancer Society site. They will tell you that there are many factors in this desease. Some of the factors are tabacco use, diet, infectios deseased, chemicals and radiation of sorts. I know that you have not heard of radon. This is also a factor that seems to be left out of a lot of studies. This is rare but it is there. According to the Journal of the American Medical Association ( Vol.287, No. 9: 1132-1141) air pollution is a big factor. The other factors that can be contributed to cancer is your diet. Let ban hotodgs, bologna, luncheon meat, red meats beef, pork, and lamb. Sorry so lengthy but if you are going to pick just one cause of cancer to fight about facts are important. The politisions are going to tell you what you want to hear so they get ellected. There is so much money in the government that they can make these survey and poles say anything they want. The public is so gullible that they believe anything. The government says that smoking is the cause so that makes it right. That makes it right. The person who owns the business's that the government is saying, you have to not have smoking, they are the ones hurting. The government is not hurting they still get the tax that the restaurant or bar is generating. The business owner is suffering. What happened to the rights of the little man who is struggling to make a living? The government is not paying his bills. People need to stop pointing fingers and live their lives the way they want and leave others to live their lives. Sorry so long and I will probably be given all kinds of negatives for stating my opinion but this is how I see it.

I agree with you! How many people do you see at a bar that doesn't smoke? A lot of people only smoke when they drink.

My city went smoke free 2 years ago. You can't smoke anywhere, and you can't smoke within 100 feet of a governement building.. and I smoke. How has it changed my life? I don't go anywhere anymore. I don't go to bars anymore because when I start drinking, I want to smoke more. I don't go to restaurants anymore, because after I eat, I want a smoke. I don't go hang out with my friends in coffee bars anymore because when I'm sitting havinga coffee with my friends, I want to smoke. I don't do anything. And it's bad on the economy too. After the ban came into place, there were 6 very good bars that had to close because they lost so much business. People like me, who smoke more when they drink (and some people who don't smoke at all unless they're drinking) stopped going out. I don't agree with it at all. I think it's unfair, but when you're dealing with the government, what can ya do but stay home?

i am with you all the wqay.i am a smoker and i totally agree with you.i think that smokers too have rights and that these rights are being trod upon.i have given some links below regarding smoking and our rights and i hope that you will see them.frankly until now my cit has not had a total ban on smoking,thank god.but if they do that then i am going to sue them for my rights.if hey want a total ban then they should provide smokers corner,smokers bar,resturant for smokers and stuff like that!i am with you 100%.chk out tyhe links. https://mysmokersrights.rjrt.com/SGRHome.jsp http://www.nycclash.com/SmokerGroups.html http://www.worldsmokersday.org/srd.html

I'm a smoker and although I feel inconvienced at times, do understand most of the non-smokers views. What I can't understand is how the government can bad mouth smoking and also collect the tax they put on tabacco products. Where does this go anyway? Last time they reported was years and it went in general funds. What gives?

I am a smoker and I am with you on this one. Unfortunatly I do not live somewhere that I have the option of a smoking section in a restraunt. Actually since they put a stop to smoking in bars, restraunts, bowling, and etc, my husband and I have stopped going out. Yes they do lose a lot of business and I have seen many small bars and places go out of business because of it. I agree, if you do not want to be near the smoke then go to non smoking. If we only had a smoking option here it would not be so bad. I think that after paying the high price for a meal I should be able to light up and not have to go outside. I know that if I do drink I want to smoke, I should not have to go outside to do this. Go to a non smoking bar and let me have one that I can smoke in.

I think venue owners should take the decision whether to have a non-smoking bar/restarant or whatever. They would then either develop their own loyal clientel or follow the local demand. Personally, I hate that the consumer gets the stick rather than the producer of products designed to poisonI am a non smoker, but it's the tobbacco companoes I'd go after, as well as educating youngsters.

How much do you smoke a day?

Here's the thing about smoking or non-smoking sections to restaurants. You would need a airtight compartment to keep the smoke from truly going anywhere but the smoking section. Most restaurants don't have this. Smoke goes everywhere, you just don't notice because ....... yup you're a smoker lol. It's a free country, but I don't think you have the right to affect my health by affecting where I eat. It goes both ways, you want to smoke wherever, well people who don't want to breath in your nasty a*s smoke don't want to have to deal with it wherever either.

Unless there is a contained smoking area, smoking and non-smoking areas are a joke. It really does affect other people.

I think the whole movement has gone to far. I read recently that they are trying to ban smoking in apartment buildings in Seattle.. I guess they will haul you off to smoker's prison if they catch you

Most restaurant owners have realized that to allow smoking in their restaurants by the employees and patrons that they are encouraging an unhealthy habit (to which you cannot disagree). Usually in a restaurant the smoking section, while seperate, isn't seperated by a wall...just an invisible line. I have heard a reference of having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool. No ventilation can get rid of the smoke as it leaves the persons mouth. They want to keep all parties happy but cannot do it so they must choose the lesser of 2 evils. You say that you should be able to smoke wherever you want to. But then you are forcing people who do not want to breathe in that smoke to do so. You can say that they shouldn't be there...but they could say the same about you. As for losing business, I haven't seen the problem here. Though you make a good point in saying that it should be the choice of the restaurant. It is lousy though to go to a restaurant and find out that there is a smoking section. And what makes me really mad is when I say I want NO smoking and they sit me in the non-smoking...right next to the smoking section. Might as well let all of the smokers exhale on me... I used to smoke and I can see why you would be annoyed but I have since quit and am now so sensitive to the smell that I can barely take it. I get nauseous and dizzy around it. I can only imagine what it would be like for a person with asthma or allergies dealing with it. Sorry I might have rambled a bit...but my point was made somewhere.

I think it is awful myself. I agree about non smoking in bars. A lot of people smoke when they drink. I know I do. It is the same way in my city. A lot of bars are non smoking and the samw goes with restranuts.

Personally i am a smoker and i do believe that it should be the estblishments choice rather than the city. Where i live however there is still smoking allowed in almost every bar and some restaraunts! I also believe that non smokers shouldn't have to lose their life because we choose to smoke. Therefore in all it is for the better!

i am a smoker myself but i do not agree with you, i feel that we do not have the right to blow the smoke over the ones who do not need it, so i am comfortable with smoking and non-smoking sections everywhere, the catch is i dont agree when i am sitting in smoking and someone comes and tells me that i have to stop smoking as the others guests are troubled,.....so what is the use of such sections, may be you will all agree, if we have different sections then we have to respect them,,,,whether u r smoker or not.

I'm a non-smoker. I don't like breathing in second-hand smoke very much, but I'm definately concerned about the government curtailing our freedoms one by one. Why don't they make Mcdonald's illegal?

My entire State went NON smoking. I was a smoker for 16 years, The government has gone too far and people make a huge deal out of smoking. But there are a million things just as bad for you .You can get Lung cancer from living in a city from emmissions of cars, So I guess I need to pass a bill that says I don't want anyone driving because it might someday give me cancer! I quit smoking on January 17th and it sucks I hate it. I want a cig every minute! I wish there was a satisfiying cig tyhat was good for you! HAHA ok well good luck on your debate!