I need advice on what to do if anything regarding a pedofile

United States
January 17, 2007 5:00pm CST
OK, this is a touchy subject,but I'm at a loss of what to do,if anything;or just pretend he's not a disgusting piece of dirt taking up our air.... A year and a half ago,this guy decided to go after me. Showing up at my work,flowers,candy,asking me out. For some stupid reason, I thought that because he went to my church,I'd be safe. At the very least,warned by other people at church if he wasn't a good man... After three months of this man's convincing me that he was desolate and had nothing to his name;incedently, I wound up giving this man clothing,coats,blankets,and he nearly ate my son& I out of house& home by eating twice than any man needs. He gained a belly mooching off of me. Yes, I was stupid to fall for that line,but I thought he was in need of help... WRONG! I found out that he's a convicted offender/pedofile {without going into detail, but y'all know what I mean} He'd gone to prison, and was a repeat offender; what's worse, no one told me until I had finally figured out the entire truth about him and told him to leave us alone. Now, over a year later, I have an injunction against him due to being stalked by the man at work{which I finally quit to escape him} and at church. The final straw that broke the camel's back was finding him parked outside my house for an hour in his pizza delivery hat with an empty pizza box pretending to deliver it to me{I wasn't even home and he knew it,but my mother was inside watching} Now after all of this and more, my church leaders have told me to leave it alone and shut up... and to be nice to him...barf.... So, what do you think I should do? Lela
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• United States
17 Jan 07
You report him. Seriously, men like this need either a: incrimination, or b: mental help. Not even kidding. Do you want this guy, who may or may not be reformed, but judging NOT if he's stalking you, around on the streets for other people to have to deal with? I mean, ok I get why the church leaders say to leave it alone, but that's because a church's policy is forgive and forget, generally. But for YOUR safety, and that of others, you report him. Really. Please do!
• Ecuador
18 Jan 07
wow! where do you live? it doesn't seem lik the kind of response the situation would get where I live
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@yorgaki (678)
• Romania
18 Jan 07
I don't really understand : why do you call him pedofile ? Did he tried to attack your boy or something ? Or you just made some charity with him then get disgusted by his greediness ? I really don't understand you. Is he a pizza delivery boy ?? Please explain us more how he "terrorised" you or the church people or similar. I don't really understand the situation. Is he just sexually harassing you or what ? But what has that to do with the fact that he wanted to take part to the religious service in the church ?? Anyone has this right, I think !! Thanks.
• United States
18 Jan 07
Number one, get a restraining order against him. Number two, find a new church.
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@Elaeblue (144)
• United States
18 Jan 07
Report his butt and keep doing it until he leaves you, your son, and your mom alone. In the meantime I would search for another church. Dont they understand that your son was in jeopardy anytime that man was near him? Any church family that treats you that way doesnt deserve your service to them. One thing that might help is to call the local/or close to home domestic violence shelter and ask them if there is anything else you could do to make him stay away from you and yours-they may have ideas I cant think of right now.
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• United States
18 Jan 07
I may be sounding creul & harsh here, but I HAVE been a pedophiles victim (as has my brother), so please forgive me if I'm a bit tacky here. Report him & throw it back in anyones face who tells you to be "good & nice" to this perv - "what if he raped your little (girl/boy)?". And DON'T "shut up" about it. Silence is how pedohiles get away, as well as stalkers. And what else could he be hiding from his past? Obviously he is not the best of people, so I would be super UNtrusting of him. Also, because of his record, make sure he doesn't have access to your home (there was an episode on TV where a guy claimed to be a cop to gain acess into a woman's home). And make sure your son knows he is unwelcomed (although it's up to you wheather or not to go into detail). Again, I'm sorry if I'm a bit harsh on the matter.
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• United States
18 Jan 07
I'm glad you reported him & I don't think that those people should be laughing at you. People that have really bad issues (like my rapists & my brothers rapist, for exampe) need to be away from the rest of society for our protection. The same woman molested my brother than proceded to rape him from the time he was only 5! Until his teen years. So I don't believe rapists can be reformed into productive members of society, but that's my opinion.
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• United States
18 Jan 07
I don't think you're too harsh. You're right on all counts! I've reported him,had an injunction put against him and I feel like I'm being laughed at by people that I thought cared about me {wrong} I'm told to forgive him and let him do whatever. I've forgiven him,but that doesn't mean to lay there and give him whatever he wants. They don't see it the same way apparently. I think I'll be moving far enough away in a couple weeks Lela
• United States
20 Jan 07
You're not being harsh just straight forward. For those who don't quite understand the one who started this discussion, this is my daughter. I can tell you this is a fairly small town and everybody she has gone to already knew about this man. The last the know, is his present day victim. We will be moving, not far away but out of town, by the end of this month.
@babykay (2131)
• Ireland
18 Jan 07
Oh My God, I have read your post but hardly any of the replies, I am so very angry. I think you already know what to do, you need to report this to the Police and shout about it to everyone that you know. Protect your kids. Report the Church also for trying to protect a paedophile - that is what they are doing, telling you not to take action against him. What kind of a church is this - the Catholic Church? What about you son? What if this man were to do something to your son? If I were you I would go to the media, speak to the papers. This is terrible. A church should never, ever turn its back on the communitty's need to know of child rapists in their midst. I am not suggesting that there should never be forgiveness, I am saying that children's welfare should be paramount at all times.
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@yorgaki (678)
• Romania
18 Jan 07
Calvary Chapel ?? Then that maybe explains everything ... It seems that they thought you knew about his past and wanted you to be gentle with such people that has a mental disease to do what he did ! They wanted you to sacrifice yourself for his good. Wow, what kind of scoundrels !!
• United States
18 Jan 07
would you believe that the church knew about this man before I did and never told me? They stared and glared at me,and no one would tell me why{this was over a year ago}. The pastor's wife called me a liar and to be nice to him. I will take your advice and go to the local paper about the church. No, it's not catholic, it's a Calvary Chapel. Thank you for a fresh perspective on what to do.. :) Lela
• United States
17 Jan 07
All you can do is report him for stalking. Make sure you make notes of EVERYTHING he does when it comes to you. Make sure you include dates, time and locations. If you have any witnesses make sure to write down their info incase they are needed. No offense to anyone but just because someone goes to church, doesn't make them a good person. There is more to someone then just their church habits and I hope you learned not to let your guard down just based on where you meet the person.
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@yorgaki (678)
• Romania
19 Jan 07
Don't understand why, you could say just "yes" or "not" to my question. I would be not so aggressive with anybody just because he tries to learn the TRUTH. After all, HE is guilty of what happened between YOU TWO, not me, coward lady !
• United States
18 Jan 07
there ya go.
• United States
19 Jan 07
you've been reported
• Ireland
17 Jan 07
This is obviously a case of harrasment and stalking. Start by making a diary of dates and times that you see him and the different situations ie the pizza delivery scene. Have your mam and your son do the same. I would also inform your sons school but be very careful as im not sure you can say he is a convicted paedophile but let them know that he has been hanging around your house and you would like to know if he has been noticed at your sons school. Finally bring all this information to your local police and tell them your worries and fears and have your diary as evidence of his appearances. As for your church, i dont wish to put down your church but it may be worth checking into finding another if they are not wishing to be supportive of the obvious stress you are facing at the moment and the concerns that you have. Please be careful and cautious around this man.
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@yorgaki (678)
• Romania
18 Jan 07
Lela, try to understand the wife of the pastor. She is the wife of a "man of God", isn't it? God doesn't teach us to be so fast in punishing the others, do you remember that ?? What do you would like, to kill someone that poor man ?? Imagine that his sins are not so infinite as you would like to believe. He already was punished for his bad behavior, don't you think that ?? I think that already the law made justice against him, so stop considering that he's still worth of being punished for his next days of his life. He paid whatever was due to pay for his bad actions made in the past. Why are you so angry against him but what has that to do with the fact that you are still a divorced lady ?? To be someone attracted by you is a gift of God for you, maybe this way you could marry someone that is a good man (because definitely your next husband must like you not just you to like him, don't you agree with that ??) So the problem is not that person was attracted by you, because you can refuse him and are not a simple girl alone that could be attacked in any moment ! You have next to you your mother and your son - both of them could call the police or other people around you to help you - if something wrong could be possible to happen against you at some day. What is that who make you hating so deep that man ?? Keep him away, he's an unhappy male without a woman next to him, but your attitude makes me feel that you felt with him or was attracted by him and suddenly was disappointed by his past. Please be sincere about this issue, or else I cannot understand why are you so angry against him ... I ask again : did he attacked your boy or similar ? Then what happened ?
• United States
20 Jan 07
you seem WAY too entertained with this subject, so I'm done answering your questions MR. yorgag or whatever. You are freaking me out with this good guy/bad guy bipolar stuff going on, so I don't know which personality I'm looking at right now,but I'm done either way..... Besides,you seem to be fine with taking over the entire conversation amongst your self or selves{with how many personalities]
• United States
18 Jan 07
I thank GOD that he's homeschooled, so my son's safe in that aspect. I did take a diary of all of this stuff to his parole officer. I am also thinking of a different church as you say... I should feel safe in church,and this pastor doesn't seem to care. His wife called me a liar when I confided in her about this man. It sure seems that the only men attracted to me are scum,ya know? No wonder I'm still divorced. That's not what I ever wanted either. I just wanted to be a wife and a mom. No diamonds needed,just love. Now I'm 33and working my buns off to take care of my mother and my son. Well, thanks and take care, Lela
@remaster74 (4064)
• Greece
22 Jan 07
Go to the police dear. It's simple. Your church leaders aren't the ones that have the problem.
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@loujac3 (1188)
• United States
18 Jan 07
I do so hope that your son was not abused by this man. As for the church, it is not up to them to decide a matter such as yours. Why do you think that the Catholic church has such problems today? They covered up pedophiles in their own mist and for years people suffered. The man is a stalker, a creep and a major threat to your community. Report him now! You owe that man no favors and he is taking advantage of the church and others. You also need to find another church to join and get away from the one you are at, since their concern is not to protect you and your family.. Who will be the man's next victim? Report him.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
This discussion was started by my daughter.I can tell you I was out of town when all this started. Away from my grandson, for a long time, after coming back and after a bit of time, he confided in me something this man had done. As a result, I sent him immediately for an X-ray of his arm. Sure enough it had been broken and rehealed in a warped position. Too late to do anything about it, short of surgery. He had kept silent due to that man's manipulations. You see, he's one of those 'out talkers'. He can outtalk the judge. When it became clear that this man was not going to drop off the planet, I approached him with the threat of pressing charges if I ever saw him within 20' of my daughter or grandson. He tried to outtalk me but I'm pretty good at it too and I made my threat firm. You see, too much time had passed and we might not have a case at all but I sure will use it against the guy. When I came home, the atmosphere here changed. I'm a dog, when it comes to my kids and this 'piece of bologna' wasn't going to snow me. I've had to go eyeball to eyeball with him 3 times before he finally got the picture. The lingering problem has come through the so-called church, as they want my daughter to be forgiving and pleasant toward this guy. I'm a bully, when called for, and I won't play their game. We will be moving and changing churches by the end of this month and if I ever see this guy come near again, it will be because he sought us out and I most definitely will take over. This will end.
• Nigeria
17 Jan 07
sounds like this guy is up to no good. Never go to his house alone or naything in that sense. I have really bad experiences with men trying to do things to me even as an adult. You need to tell your parents that he invites you over and that you feel uncomfortable with him so they can have a talk with him and tell him something. If my son or daugther told me that someone is trying to get close to them and won't even talk to adults and only children- that would worry me and i would have a serious talk with that person. Other than that- take care of yourself and have your eyes wide open. Us girls have a crazy instinct on men who are trying to hurt us this way so- since you feel weird arond this guy- you should go with your gut and stay away from him- you never know what he might wanna do to you
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@tammyr (5946)
• Etowah, Tennessee
18 Jan 07
Did you read the topic, or just the title? She is a grown woman and to tell her to tell her parents, when her mother clearly knows,tells me you did not!!
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• United States
20 Jan 07
You don't understand..He doesn't have a home. He just goes from one woman or church member tot he next to mooch 'til they kick him out. I had no idea there were people out there like that
• United States
18 Jan 07
Report him to the authorities. Keep records of times and dates that you and other family members and even co-workers have seen him anywhere near you. Also record his activities at that time. You could keep a record of this in a day book. Make calls to authorities every time he comes in violation of the orders you have against him. Don't listen to the advice of the people in your church, because doing as they have advised has gotten people killed. Be sure to keep your house locked up tight and you might want to think about a home security system. You could even make pictures of him in his car, etc. if you can do so without being noticed to help your case. I hate to bring this up, but you also want to watch you back at all times, and you might not want to go out often alone.
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• United States
18 Jan 07
I have to thank everyone for responding to this question. I needed to know what you all thought,and will be taking alot of the advice, and putting it to use ;) Lela
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• United States
17 Jan 07
This sounds like a horrible thing. I myself would report him and have a restraining order put on him. You have to think of your families safety first. Who knows what this mans intentions are and he does not sound like he is thinking sane to me. The church of course would tell you something like this as they believe in forgiving people but if it were their family and them would they really just let it go. Probably not. File a report and get rid of him. If he does continue to follow you after you put an order against him call the police everytime.
• United States
18 Jan 07
I have the restraining order,so now he uses the church to harass me. I think I need to change churches
@jbrooks0127 (2324)
• United States
18 Jan 07
Go directly to your police department and report him. You know his name so they can pull up his history so there will be no doubt as to what they are dealing with. Document all the incidents where he has stocked you. If possible take pictures. Give all that to the police as well. But beware......please take extreme caution while documenting what he does. Only do so when you know he can not see you. This is very true of taking pictures. The more information you can give the police about what he is doing the better off you are. Do not discuss this with people at work or church any more. They have been fooled by him just as you were. These kind of me are very skilled at gaining confidence of who ever they want something from. But some can be dangerous so please take precautions.
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• United States
19 Jan 07
you are right on the nose with this response. Thank you so much :) Lela
@diego9774 (172)
• United States
18 Jan 07
Report him to the police ASAP!! He's probably registered and on parole or probation. DO NOT Wait for something to happen!! You are in a very dangerous position. Trust me if you contact the police, IT WILL BE ADRESSED IMMIEDIETLY!!! YOU ARE BEING STALKED!!! GO ONLINE AND CHECK THE WEBSITES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. BE CAREFUL AND DON'T WAIT ON THIS!!! YOU ARE NOT A BAD PERSON FOR PROTECTING YOURSELF,YOUR FAMILY AND SOCIETY!! ACT NOW!!! IF YOU NEED HELP FINDING THE WEBSITES,CONTACT ME AND I WILL HELP YOU!
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• United States
18 Jan 07
Would you believe that even after getting an injunction{that's all they'd give me},it still seems to be unimportant to the Payson police? I"ve been told that this man has to attack me or my son for anything to happen. That doesn't really help..I don't want this person anywhere NEAR me, yet he's allowed at church and in the parking lot{usually standing around between myself and the door} So at this point I get to be the one to move because no one cares. At least not until something horrible happens..but I was hoping for it not to get to that point,ya know?
• United States
22 Jan 07
you seriously need to contact the police and have them do something about that... before you and your family are in anymore danger or even harmed
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@cisco1 (539)
• United States
18 Jan 07
Go to the cops and tell him that you are still be stalked. He is a repeated offender and i highly doubt that he had changed his ways so be careful with the loser! Call the cops and tell them he violated the restraining older and dont go to that church no more.
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• United States
19 Jan 07
WOW! COmpletely get him out of your life! Report him because he is dangerous to you and others! Why on earth would your church leaders telling you to leave it alone! OW find a new church!
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• United States
18 Jan 07
You should not give up to your church and just pretend that it never happened. This man is obviously sick, and after doing this to you, you should not have to shut up and be nice to him.
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@sproutz (260)
• Canada
19 Jan 07
REport him, there is no other way around. You need to stay safe!
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• Romania
18 Jan 07
Good question!!!They are so many out there, and they act the same, like normal people. What to do about???I dont know..Just be carefull
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@Alexc123 (126)
18 Jan 07
if you already have an injunciotn against him and have reported him there isnt much you can really do. the only thing to suggest is that you should just try your best to avoid him, and report him every time he does something that infringes his restrictions.
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