The "State of the Union"
@solstice_imaging (28)
United States
January 20, 2007 11:25am CST
In my last post I challenged Bush supporters to answer the question "What made him so popular." Now I want to hear what you think about the "state of the union." I think we (as a country) are in a bad way right now, and I think it's going to take a long time to fix. But who is really to blame for what's going on? Is it Bush, congress, the people who voted for Bush (twice!)? I'll give my opinion (and if the tomatoes start flying, then so be it), but let me just say for the record that it's for the sake of debate only, not to make enemies! I did not vote for Bush in the 2004 elections, and I was unfortunately too young to vote at all when he won his first term. But I followed the political debates very closely, and was outraged by what I saw and heard. Here was a man (meaning Bush) standing before us who, I think, struggled to answer the questions set, at least in an educated way. He fumbled and stumbled until I felt I had to go read a book just to make sure it was him and not me (not to mention we ended up keeping a dictionary close at hand during all of the debates to try and identify the words he probably meant)! It was then that I knew that he was not the one who should be running our country. My choices in politics tend to be pretty unpopular, as I'm a young black democrat in a primarily republican state. So yeah, I still think Clinton was a good president (couldn't give a rat's you-know-what about his personal life, it's actually a pretty bad mental pic I'd rather not have popping around in my head). Physical urges aside, I think this country experienced the best economy we'd seen in a while. At least, people looked strangely at those who had more than 1 job. Now, it seems you HAVE to have more than one job just to get by, and that's being a minimalist! And not to step on toes, but I think that Bush's attitude and the choices he's made because of that attitude have a LOT to do with how I'm forced to live now! I really resent the lack of judgment he's shown throughout both of his terms, and I resent further that fact that hardly anyone in this country saw what was really going on until now, when it's much too late! I've lost countless friends to this stupid war (I grew up in a military town, and went to college in a military town, so I gained a LOT of military friends). The husband of my closest friend is serving over in Iraq right now, and though I pray a lot these days, I feel as if I'm just waiting for that call to say he's gone. The men and women of the armed forces used to be very proud of the path they chose, and proud to fight for this country. I couldn't ever get into friendly debates with them because they'd defend Bush until the cows came home! But now, even they are questioning why they're being sent abroad! It's something I've never seen from any of the people I've ever known in the military, and it's really scaring me.
We have lost more men and women that I even care to think about now (and may now have to send tons MORE to join this stupid effort), the men and women who come home are not even evaluated properly to ensure they can go back to being a normal member of society, our country is spending not millions, but BILLIONS of dollars per month (that's right, per month) to maintain a war effort that isn't helping anyone but the ones who want to see us and all of the regular Iraqi civilians dead, this war has already outlasted the longest world war, we are in debt past our eyeballs at this point, we are looked at as bumbling idiots by the people of other countries, our middle class and lower class have gotten even poorer, and still, after all of this, we are no closer to catching and bringing to justice the terrorists responsible for all of this. So you tell me, what do YOU think about the state of our Union?
3 responses
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I don't think Bush is as dumb as you make him out to be. I don't think claiming he fumbled through speeches is accurate. I think just like the dumb military blind sheep (pffft) supporters of Bush have their own agenda, you do as well.
That being said, the economy right now is great, you just don't hear about it. If you need more than one job to get by, you probably have a terrible job. Unemployment is way down, another stat you don't hear about.
And we are closer to bringing terrorists to justice. Just because Osama hasn't been caught doesn't mean we haven't captured/killed many terrorists and their leaders as well as prevented terror attack plots.
@solstice_imaging (28)
• United States
20 Jan 07
Like I said, let the tomatoes fly! I respect your opinion. I have heard that unemployment is down, but that doesn't mean that the jobs being created are "good" ones. I am in 2 fields, I run my own web design business which is doing quite well considering we just started out. But I have to have a part-time to maintain. And even before business ventures, the best I've lived in the past 6 years is when I had 2 full-time jobs and was making over $3000 a month. I know of countless friends and family members who have degrees (several of them have more than 1 degree) and are still struggling to find work. And I know so many who have been months and some more than a year without a decent job for their skill level, and some have remained unemployed altogether. And the corporations and businesses that have created all these new jobs and are hiring don't seem too willing to pay people what they are truly worth! I do not feel, under those circumstances and coupled with taxes and our country's total debt, that we have a booming economy. I just don't see it. On the subject of terrorists, I have also heard that we have captured and killed several "known terrorists." But as far as being closer to bringing to justice the ones who started it all, I simply do not agree. I do feel we'd be closer if we'd gone after the prize in the first place, instead of initiating a war with a country who, until now, were not our immediate threat. We (or our president at least) have opened a can of worms, you cannot deny that. The only agenda I have here is friendly debate, so I welcome and respect all opinions. Thanks for posting!
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
20 Jan 07
But the economy is up, in general. People are being paid more, companies are making more money, and the market is awesome.
I sympathize with what you're saying about employment, though.
"Several" terrorists? There have been a lot more than that... A LOT! But do you think if we captured Osama that terrorism would end? You have to take the whole thing out, Al Queda is not the only terrorist group, they simply have the biggest brand name. There are terrorists in more countries than Afghanistan and Iraq and there are plenty of governments that sympathize with their thoughts and actions and even support/create them.
@solstice_imaging (28)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I agree with what you're saying about there being tons of terrorists in existence. And please understand that I never said, or implied that I meant, that I think Osama and Al Queda are the only ones out there. I do think that by not planning more carefully, by not originally going after the ones who are truly at fault, by misleading the people of this country and by (as I said earlier) invading a country that, until now, was not our immediate threat, we have shown and proven that we are a distracted nation with distracted leaders. I think this may have given others like Osama the "confidence" they may have needed to follow in his and Al Queda's footsteps. The problems surrounding this whole war and they way it was started make it seem as though we can be easily confused (and unfortunately this has proven to be true thus far). It has taken away the unity and confidence we had and so desperately need as a country, and those who do not like us feed on this (and what a feast they're having!). Though we may have had enemies like this all along, we've created a great deal more.
@Smith2028 (797)
• United States
21 Jan 07
I think the State of the Union is strong. While the war has torn us apart, we must learn to look past single issues.
Economically we are stronger than we have been in a long time, more people are working and spending and saving their money. We have seen a surge in the GDP and a rise is consumer spending.
Domestically we have taken the first steps to truly securing our borders. We have not seen a terrorist attack since September 11, 2001, and while to many this seems to be a stupid assessment, we must bear in mind that we are hated as a country and people do want to hurt us.
We still need to privatize our social security system in order to secure our futures.
The one area in which I can not agree with the direction of our country is our severe partisianship. The two parties are so power hungry they have forgotten the purpose of serving.
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
21 Jan 07
There were many terror attacks before Bush. Al Queda bombed the WTC by truck in 1993. The USS Cole was bombed of the cost of Yemen in 2000.
prevented terror attacks:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4319714.stm
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/09/whitehouse.plots/index.html
Brooklyn Bridge attack was also foiled.
Do you think Osama targetted the US because Bush and the election? That's not just biased, its impossible. They had been training for it for such a long time, Bush had only been in office for a matter of months. Was Bush and his trouble causing the cause for the first time they tried to bring the WTC down too?
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
21 Jan 07
Ok if that's true, then why did he attack the WTC in 1993? Especially since Clinton did nothing? Its just not making too much sense.
@Smith2028 (797)
• United States
21 Jan 07
Well, you saved me the trouble of bringing all that up. Thanks MrNiceGuy