Teenage Daughters and "Stories"

@justiman (428)
United States
January 21, 2007 4:50pm CST
I'm a single dad and I have two teenage daughters and they are both excellent kids. The only problem I have with my 16 year old is whenever she gets made at me she goes to my Dad and Stepmom, whom I am very close to, and twists things that have been said around to make things sound totally different than how they really happened. I would just chalk it up as her "venting", but I have both of them telling me I shouldn't be so hard on her. And she uses that against me when we have arguments. I don't really blame my parents because they are just trying to help. I have never used punishment before, I have always "reasoned" with them the whole time they were growing up, but now she's getting out of control with these tactics. Anybody have any good advice?
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@judyt00 (3497)
• Canada
21 Jan 07
I think you have to have asit down with your parents and explain that she is lieingto them to get them to side with her. you must get them to provide a united force against her lies, make then understand that they HAVE to respect your decisions, and back you in them. Ask them to talk to you about things she is complaining about before they agree with her. i think if they start saying. Lets hear your dad's side of this first will bring out her true colours to them. And clamp down on the daughter NOW before it gets worse. reasoning has only produced a spoiled willful person, try dome old fashioned discipline. Just try the "that's it, I'm your father and you will do what I say, no questions asked. then ground her to her room for a week.
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@justiman (428)
• United States
21 Jan 07
Willful Yes, spoiled no. She is very hard headed but not spoiled at all. She's a very smart kid(straight A's her entire life), so the problem is she is very sneaky and doesn't ever want to be told she is wrong. I will take your advice on the backing me no matter what though. thank you.
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@tigerdragon (4297)
• Philippines
5 Feb 07
hahaha, funny you asked that because my nieces and nephews run to me for help. friend, that is a ok because it is better for them that they know they ran to their relatives in case they encountered a problem with you rather than going to someone else like their peer group, wouldn't you agree. and at least there is a sense of balance in the family.
@justiman (428)
• United States
8 Feb 07
You are so correct. I am glad they feel they can go to their grandparents and that they are closer to them than the kids at school. Some kids don't have that with anyone in their family. Since I posted this I have had a serious talk with everybody and we have been able to compromise a solution. She can still go to them and they will give her the support she needs when she is upset but they will no longer jump on me or make conclusions without speaking to me. And the main thing I got through to them is that I am their father and I am going to be the last word no matter what. So again, thank you and everyone else for their advice and comments.
@BittyBiddy (2903)
• Ireland
22 Jan 07
I think that you're going to have to confront her in front of your dad and stepmom if you know that she's twisting things. Grandparents always seem to lend a sympathetic ear to their grandchildren but over indulgence could lead to your daughter having less respect for you making your parenting role more difficult.
@justiman (428)
• United States
22 Jan 07
Last time we tried that with my dad it blew up. My dad is very hard headed and stubborn. (I think thats where my daughter gets it from) But I will do that with my stepmom. Thanks
@doncris (637)
• Romania
22 Jan 07
There is a simple solution to this rebellion: stop talking to her. If those are her tactics, if she doesn't want to be fair, there is really no point in further conversation, right? If she's going to end up lying again, why waste your breath on arguments in vain?
@justiman (428)
• United States
22 Jan 07
I actually told her I was gonna do that. I said things are going to be the way I say they are going to be and I wasn't going to explain things to her anymore, that she was just going to do what I say because "I said so". Obviously I don't like that and I don't think its the right way to handle children, but I felt she was leaving me no other options.
• Canada
22 Jan 07
I think you just need to keep doing what you already are . All children go through different phases in life and hopefully this one won't last too long . Also I would try to talk to my dad and stepmom and explain how they are not helping when they are backing her up all the time .If she thinks she has the support of other's it will take her longer to get out of this habit . Best of luck , teenagers can always find a way to turn things to their advantage .
@justiman (428)
• United States
22 Jan 07
I had a long talk with them last night and I think I got through to them. And thank you, they are exceptional kids, they both make straight A's and never get in any trouble. I am blessed. Beautiful family by the way.
• United States
22 Jan 07
Have you ever heard the phrase "The is no reality only ones perception of reality" Everyone views a situtation different. You need to sit down with your parents and make sure that they understand they have to back you up in your choices for your daughter. You also need to let your daughte know that it is okay for her to find comfort in her grandparents but that is as far as it goes. You are her father and the choices you make are the ones that matter. Since you have always taken a logical approach with your daughters you have to continue it.
@justiman (428)
• United States
22 Jan 07
Thats right. I am their father and ultimately that is the bottom line. Thanks
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
22 Jan 07
I really don't think your daughter is twisting things to her advantage. Kids just see thing different. They have tunnel vision and hear what they want to hear even if you didn't say it the way they hear it. I have raised 4 kids and 2 grandkids and have learned that teenagers are alien creatures that speak a different language than we adults do. They only hear half of what you say. And yes they have to vent the same as we do. But I do agree with the last poster . Have a heart to heart with your parents so they really kow what is going on and can help not hinder.
@justiman (428)
• United States
22 Jan 07
Thank you for pointing that out. Sometimes as parents we forget those minor details about known history. :) I appreciate it.
@badkat83 (1620)
• United States
30 Jan 07
Well you have two girls and that is tough. I am glad my daughter is almost 21 now she drove me crazy. Nothing worked so I have no advice for you except say that you will get through it. I am sure you will get a couple of gray hairs too. Good luck. : )
@rawpoet (2046)
• United States
29 Jan 07
Very interesting. My "almost" 16 year old does the exact same thing, but it's with my mother. Personally, I don't think any of our conversations (sit downs or punishments) need to go anywhere else, and I tell her so. I also have no problem telling my mother that's it's none of her business what I do with my children. I just say it in a nicer way. I can understand our children going to school and complaining, but no kid is gonna come back to tell me I'm wrong. Our children know our parents will. It's like a little game to them. Being that she's a teenager, there's not much you can do to keep her quiet, but to sit down calmly and say, "You're MY child, and things aren't going to change just because you go to your grandparents. They don't raise you. Ect, etc." I'd also tell her that since she wants to talk so much about our lives at home, that maybe the phone should be taken away for a few days. I don't know about your daughter, but my daughter would DIE without the phone. There has to be consequences for her actions, and it's never too late.
@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
22 Jan 07
Tell her you are on to her and know what she is doing and its not going to work anymore. Then go to your dad and tell them about it. I think she will stop if nobody will listen to her.
• Ireland
22 Jan 07
I know exactly how you feel, because I am a grandmother. My fourteen year old grandaughter regularly comes to me with stories about her mum (my daughter) and I always listen and let her have her say. I make no comment, except, "Would you like me to have a word with your mum?". The answer is always the same, "No, because then she will know that I told you". I don't think your parents should be telling you how to rear your daughter. You know her better than they do. I would never interfere with how my daughter rears her children unless she asks for advice.
@ajay22 (300)
• India
22 Jan 07
that's surely a dangerous signs, not only she is lying but also she is demeaning you in fron of yours parents and at 16 she surely knows what she is doing. Trying to sort out the problems by talking to her, also you can advise your parents not to support her, I think its the support that she finds from your parent is making her to do so.
@justiman (428)
• United States
22 Jan 07
I appreciate your comment but I will never advise my parents to not support her. And I'm not sure she knows the full extent of what she's doing. She is by far not a mean kid. One of the sweetest kids I know. Thank you for your comment.
@drmt57 (295)
• United States
22 Jan 07
Tell your Dad and mom to stay out of it. When she come to them, they should sit her down and talk to her and let her know that you are her father, you make the rules for her to follow, and you are responsible for her and her well being until she is grown.She might not like it but she will get over. I think your Dad and step mom should bring or send her back home.
• India
22 Jan 07
usuually they are missing their mother too much and are not able expres themselves to you in this way they aggressive to u try being close to them as a fren
@justiman (428)
• United States
22 Jan 07
I don't think they miss her that much, she's kinda mean. She lives 1500 miles away and they can talk to her daily if they want to but they choose not to. I do know what you are saying though and I understand. We are really good friends too. With all their friends, I am called the "Cool Dad" because I take them all places and do things with them all the time. I'm Hoping this is just a teenage phase. Thanks for your insight.
• United States
22 Jan 07
First of all you have to let her know if there is a problem that you are the parent not her grandparents. You should always be in control. Talk to her and see if it works. If not then talk to your parents to gain their support in listening to you how you feel about the situation. Use them to help talk to her if necessary. Open the communication. I agree with reasoning. Get your parents support by telling them how is daughter suppose to get your respect or you two bond closer if she only talks to your parents. Tell your parents you want her to talk to you too.