Is She Cheating?
By coffeechat
@coffeechat (1961)
New Zealand
January 21, 2007 5:51pm CST
In an article that I read, couples therapists report a 50% increase in female infidelity. Yet, as widespread as female infidelity has become, many unsuspecting husbands have no idea their wives are having an affair. Unsuspecting husbands are often surprised when they learn about a cheating wife's extramarital affair. But, the stark reality is that if a husband isn't familiar with the signs of infidelity, by the time he finds out his wife is cheating, it's usually too late.
Are you one of these guys?
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49 responses
@jbrooks0127 (2324)
• United States
22 Jan 07
Yes I am one of those guys. I was married to my first wife for 37 years. However I learned many years after the fact that she had seven affairs during the early years. It liked to kill me. I had no idea. I did know she was not happy...but there were thing I would have liked better too but never considered trying to find it elsewhere....and I trusted her.
After a number of sessions with a conceler, I worked through it, and becaues it had been many years before we went on.
Well about 5 years ago she did it again. Found him on the Internet. When I found that out I left and we divorced.
I am married again....yes some of us are real fools...and she lives alone. Mr. wonderful turned out to be far worse than me.
It is easier for woman to cheat and get away with it I think because men are not on the lookout nearly like women are. Or so it seems to me.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
23 Jan 07
JBrooks, this is one awesome experience. Some people are naturally trusting, because they are trustworthy.
Finding out that your wife had 7 affairs must have been a gutting experience. In your place, I would be scarred for life. How did you find out?
You obviously loved and trusted your ex-wife, how did she react when you found out?
You are probably right about men not being so suspicious as women are.
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
5 Feb 07
Looking at it from a distance, both in time and geography - may I venture to say something - but it is looking at is from another perspective.
There is a lot of love, companionship, common bonds,ties and affiliations that develop over such a period of time.
I wonder what it is that allows an individual to stake all of the good things for something as transient as libido. Or is it some fatal flaw in the individual?
And then when lust wanes, as is inevitable is duty, love, goodwill, family, friends, joint property, values enough of a binder to keep societies intact.
I ramble a bit, but there are no clear answers. Thank you for sharing.
@Anarchy99 (38)
• United States
22 Jan 07
For several decades more men admitted to cheating than did women. I dont think this is because more men cheated, just that they were more honest about it.You see it takes one man and one woman to cheat, therefore the numbers baring some aberation should be even! What I think people are seeing is that more women are being honest about their affairs. What I also see as scary is that many males did not realize these women were cheating. Are men that blind or are women just more willing than men to cover for their philandering friends?
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
The arithmetic argument makes sense. Sure the numbers are about even. The question that comes to mind is whether women are more adept at concealing their amorous extramarital activities or are men so egoistic and blind that they never catch on?
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
Ha! Lasvegaslogos... This really takes the cake... Morality is a question of opportunity! I love that.
@aryangentleman (1122)
• India
22 Jan 07
@Anarchy I absolutely agree with you, there can't be a major diferrence between the actual figures of infidelty by men and women.
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@indian_investor (365)
• India
22 Jan 07
that is why more and more couples are thinking about open marriage and swinging/swapping.because here evryone is honest and enjoy whole thing together and cheating factor automatically eliminated
@indian_investor (365)
• India
22 Jan 07
if evryone is honest and open and broadminded,they would not need cheating
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
5 Feb 07
That is another way of dealing with things that are "normal" and part of the human condition. Acknowledge, accept and create a work around plan.
This is the open relationship concept. But with all the risk and diseases that are prevalent this seems to have more risk than straight infidelity with one partner. (Here I mean risk of disease and nothing more)
@aryangentleman (1122)
• India
22 Jan 07
Men due to egoistic supriority complex tend to admit their infidilty much easier, which unforutnetly tend to be labeled as Honesty. But women are smarter than men in this area, they are very comfertable in hidding their true feelings and they will be the last person to acknowledge their infidilty even to themselves even in dreams. What now is happening is that now women are more comfertable with the idea of infidilty and very much open to admit it. But still its hard to catch a women infidility through her emotions or feelings were as men is easy to get caught with his pants down.
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@aryangentleman (1122)
• India
22 Jan 07
Absolutely! I dont have doubt that economic independency has played a major role in empowering women to stand not only on their feets but also to have their words and emotions listen and felt. Previously it was the giver situation for them but now they demand it and get it. And I dont mind that at all.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
You are right.
Remember that song by Harry Belafonte. "Man Smart .. woman smarter..." But do you think, economic independence has had an impact on women admitting their infidelity in greater numbers than before?
@Shujakhan (192)
• Pakistan
2 Feb 07
NO i have not this experience.do u have this because i think many wives do so behinds thier husbands.and how do u know that wives do i.but sorry to say that u only said that not proven that,just said that manu wives do so that they made affairs with other persons.as u say that it is true did ur any friend do so.that she made affair with anyoher after her mariage if yes then what u done with that,did u talked to his huusband that hs wife is doing so,or u tried to understnad ur friend not to do so .
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
2 Feb 07
Thank you for responding Shujakhan.
We all know that men cheat. Not all, not all the time.
Men think that women do not cheat. But by the time they find out, they have lost the woman lol.
@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
2 Mar 07
I figure anybody who really wants to know, does. It's not like people are very good at hiding these things.
If a guy doesn't know, it's because he is turning a blind eye.
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@wavelander (1526)
• Portugal
22 Jan 07
I'm not married but which signs are you talking about?
I want to know them lol we never know if it knocks on our door! :P
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
Go to http://www.saveyourmarriagecentral.co./getinforme/infctr/check.html
There are are a range of checks possible.
@stailgate (2363)
• United States
23 Jan 07
I would never cheat on my husband. I know that many people do cheat on their spouses, and I do not think that it is right for either to cheat. it is not right for a man or for a women to cheat on their partner. it is wrong. if you are not happy you shouldn't cheat, spare them the humility and embarassement and hurt, and just leave.
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@hellboi (661)
• Philippines
2 Feb 07
This is pretty alarming. I think we guys should know our girls first before marrying one. It is so sad indeed that some live in a marriage full of lies. I just can't think how they could live with it. One time I saw a TV show which featured infidel wives. One case their was a family of five children I think. The kids were diagnosed of a certain disease where doctors argued that only a father could hand down to his children. When they tested the father, he came out clean. That is when the mother confessed that his husband is not the father of all her children. That she is having an affair with another man. It was really so sad. I pity the husband to having raised those kids which were not his in the first place. T'was so mean of this woman.
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@moneymaka (492)
• United States
2 Feb 07
Not really as i am not the jelous type and i usually dont care what my love one could be doing and i wouldnt ask questions.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
2 Feb 07
Awesome! So you do not care. And;
If your loved one is having an affair, and you find out? What would your reaction be?
@inflamation (866)
• Pakistan
22 Jan 07
Sometime it really happens but all of them doesnt do that and due these ladies acts we cant suspect all of the wives because if we do so it means we are betraying our relationship. Isnt that so? Trust is the most important thing in relationship and if your wife breaks it up then leave her because she doesnt deserve you.
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@brihanna (381)
• United States
23 Jan 07
Can't really answer this, as I am one of the women. Yes, they are/would be surprised, as they believe that the cheating is a man's thing. And you are 100% correct, they do not get, or perhaps want to get the signs I guess they should read more magazines, or posts, or something. Anyway, in my life-a blessing.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
23 Jan 07
All the more reason to answer my dear. It may help you clarify your strategy and work towards fulfillment!
It is true that men are often so full of themselves they cannot believe that they are not Number 1.
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
23 Jan 07
Fantastic. You are ethical in your reaction and totally upfront. Are you therefore saying that if you find your wife cheating you will leave. And expect her to leave if she finds out that you are carrying on an affair, rather than retaliate by cheating on you. Is my understanding correct.
@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
22 Jan 07
No. Im not a cheater, but it does get lonesome in my marriage sometimes because my husband doesn't really understand or listen to me, but no one does actually so it isn't his fault.
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
Ah! I can empathise with you. This happens to me sometimes and I find that the answer is usually in myself and how I am feeling.
In my case, whenever if feel that way, I get out of the box, put myself in the other person's shoes and try to understand them.
And then ... presto everyone understands me. I changed, and everyone around me changes.
Believe me, I need to do this pretty often.
@rubypatson (1840)
• India
22 Jan 07
I think men cheat more than women, but both ways i dont understand how its possible to lead a double life, its sad really to be found in such a situation, after knowing that one of them is cheating, then the other one must just leave the person, not worth living with such a person
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
So what happens to the investments in each other? What guarantee is there that the next one who comes along will be better?
What if there are kids?
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
She is fortunate that you consider her lovable and trust her.
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
The workplace does throw up opportunities for cheating. Women are working in increasing numbers, yes that is true.
@camille101 (1025)
• United Arab Emirates
22 Jan 07
The thing is for a normal relationship, cheating will become obvious after several occassions of occurence. If the marriage is normal. I mean, the communication is there between spouses, sensitivity to each other's needs, the support for each other's endeavors and so on and so forth. But normally cheating is a result of lack of those things that I mentioned earlier. Therefore, if a spouse (husband or wife) doesn't detect cheating at an early stage it's because he/she doesn't care about him/her anymore. Hence, lack of interests about the whereabouts of the cheating partner, maybe he/she is cheating too.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
How very true. It is so easy to spot cheating, if you are sensitive and caring. And how unneccessary it becomes. With all this talk of infidelity, inconstancy and all the other negative things that happen it is so easy to lose sight of those beautiful, enduring and nurturing relationships we see allround us.
Cheers! Great Post!!!
@nw1911guy (1131)
• United States
22 Jan 07
I've never been married, but I have had a girlfriend that cheated on me numerous times. And trust me, it wasn't from any lack of attention. I used to cook for her, spend time with here, we had a very healthy intimate life(by healthy I mean at least once a day). Regardless of that, she still decided to cheat on me. In the end I found out that it averaged out to one other guy per month for the year we were together. Were there signs? I think so, but I like to have proof. What I learned was that when your gut is telling you it's happening, then it probably is.
We are raised, in this country, to believe that the men are the cheats and liars and poor role models. The reality is, that women can be just as bad if not worse. As a society, we've been beating men up for years and it needs to stop. This article would be indicative of it not just being men.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
Your response is one of the more balanced and descriptive ones so far.
I do agree, the courts in most western countries favour women when it comes to separation, divorce, child custody etc. While in many Islamic countries and some developing countries women are treated like chattels and the reverse is true.
It is the system and the media that hype the deadbeat father as a stereotype.
Did you ever discuss this with your former girlfriend. Do you have any theories of what motivated her to cheat on you? You say you had the gut feel and advise that gut feel is a good basis for suspicion.
How did you get proof? How did you confront her with it?
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
22 Jan 07
Yogiraut, quite well said. The blame cannot be all laid on men. Men have usually gone off to hunt, farm, build wealth and such. But now, women are able to do all of the same too.
Why do you say men are not caring enough?