Anti-Social Behaviour

Hug a Hoodie? - Kids: violent monsters, or a scapegoated persecuted minority?
January 24, 2007 7:52am CST
Is this a growing problem where you live? Are young people becoming more menacing and violent, or do we just perceive them in that way because of the media's coverage of "Anti-Social Behaviour" in teens? Are they really behaving like gangs, hanging around on street corners in large groups, or do they just have nowhere else to go, with all their parks and playgrounds being knocked down, and no free activities for them in the evenings? What's your take on the issue? Should we slap ASBOs on them all, should we "hug a hoodie" as David Cameron advised, or should we not be so quick to judge them all based on first glance and our own fears? Speak your brains freely!
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@kpisgod (994)
• India
25 Jan 07
This aint really because of the teens.U cant really tell its their fault.In my city there aint much entertaintment,so people try to have fun in their own ways.Its really ppor management on the side of the govt and beaurcracy.It would be better if they are given time playing ceaser,they would understand teh importance of entertaintment
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26 Jan 07
I quite agree - there are lots of factors, most of which are that the government doesn't give them opportunities to take part in sports, learn, train, and build a future, and that society pre-judges them. There are some teenagers who are violent, aggressive and abusive, who try and ruin neighbourhoods for everyone else, but this is a small minority of teenagers. Thanks for
26 Jan 07
(oops!) contributing to the discussion! All the best.
@shivka (110)
• India
26 Jan 07
i'd just say that though anti-social elements ahve always been indulging in anti-social behaviour..i jus dont think it was really brought to the light or even given importance to..as the world has been seen growing..the need to eliminate these anti-socialists is on the rise..and i would not completely deny that there is more anti-social behaviuor amongst the teens..these are due to rising peer and social pressures..it is these pressures that must be targeted to solve the problem!!
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26 Jan 07
Good points there shivka. I think that peer pressure has a lot to do with the problem. If teens felt more included and accepted by society, they'd be less likely to be led astray by their equally disenfranchised peers. There are so many factors in this issue, and the problems of teens wanting to fit in, and becoming involved with peers who are a bad influence is something which has happened to many good kids over the years. I don't think that you can ever do away with peer pressure, but through good upbringing, when kids become teens, they're less likely to be influenced by a bad group of peers. Thanks for your ideas and contribution to the debate!
@kataztrophy (1836)
• United States
25 Jan 07
In the town where I grew up there seems to be a little gang problem involving a few teenagers. People tell me they don;t start much trouble unless they see someone wearing rival colors(someone forgot to inform those mental midgets that not everyone plays "Gangland: Power Struggle" or whatever they want to call this weak little game they want to play with people) Not many people take these kids seriously, so I don;t think it is that big of a problem back there. I heard they just do allot of pranks and never really hurt anyone. They are basically a big joke.
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26 Jan 07
Thanks for adding your experiences to this discussion. It's a shame that they're filling their time with this sort of game. They must be quite bored, and lacking in anything else to do. I think that this in itself might be a problem, whether they're a threat to the neighbourhood or not. If it's just a phase, then fine, but teens need to be filling their time with sports, other skills-building activities, and learning/training, so they'll have a future to build towards. I really thing that local councils ought to be tackling teen boredom before it begins, by setting up groups, classes and teams. All the best!
• India
25 Jan 07
This is a fairly relevant topic you have started. This is a big problen around the worlds. Be it in schools, colleges, or workplace. The so called "hot young blood" is everywhere. I do agree with you that the youth is going out of control. There my be many reasons for this. But the major factor is their unguided and durectionless energy. Today's youth is full of energy and ideas, but need moulding. I know I am being preachy, but they are relly like molten gold.....which can be shaped into beutiful artefacts, or hideous figures....depending on the cast used. I am not saying that parents should be held responsible wholly....but today's Gen-ex should play an important role in guiding the youth. The fast paced life has taken its toll on relations and families. Connections and bonds should be re-establshed. Love always begets love.
26 Jan 07
Good points. It's a case of including and involving young people in society and communities, not shunning them and ignoring them. They are our future after all, and they all deserve opportunities to build a productive, fulfilling life within society (not just those whose parents can afford to buy them opportunities). Thanks for your contribution to the discussion.
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
25 Jan 07
This is a problem caused by many things. First... the general population has increased since we were kids. We have more concentrated housing and more kids living in our street. Vacant land where we used to play is now taken by high-rises. The law has eaten away our freedom. You cannot do this... you cannot do that... And the oldest generation who has no patience for non-sense will enforce those laws in their street. As a result... kids feel victimise for their lack of freedom. Gangs have always existed. Only today they are larger as we have more kids. Living in a multi-cultural society creates more gangs. When we were living amongst ourselves, we usually had two gangs fighting over their patch of territory. But when you have half a dozen gangs from different nationalities fighting over the same patch of dirt, things are bound to get nasty. Just too many kids in the one spot. It is quite funny to see teenagers on forums giving us a lecture about racism while their mate on the street are the worse offenders. How do you stop kids being anti-social? You can't. It is the way they have been brought up. Blame their parents and the government. The day the government banned parents and teachers from punishing children... it created anarchy. As long as we don't wake up to ourself and reverse those laws, we are going to have problems. The question you have to ask yourself is: Since we banished physical punishment 25 years ago... are the kids of today better than their parents were 25 years ago? I don't think so...
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26 Jan 07
Thanks for your thorough and detailed response. I do think that something could be done about it, as I've outlined in some of my other responses to answers in this debate. Blaming does no-one any good - finding the roots of these problems and working on those are the way to go. Too many people have given up on society nowadays, and that's part of the problem with this particular issue. We need to start changing our societies for the better.
• United States
25 Jan 07
I live in San Diego, California. Almost everyday in the media's there is another gang shooting. My expertise is working with homeless youth on a daily basis. Teens are teens and they have issues. As each of us do! They are tired of being ignored, dismissed and talked down to. They want to be listened to and talked with. They are tired of going to schools that are war zones. Many street gang teens come from the barrios. They are tired of their families doing without. They are tired of a second hand life! Many of them turn to a street life, and doing what it takes to survive that street life. Welcome to Teenage America and 2007.
26 Jan 07
It's a shame that things have escalated to that point over there in the US. That sort of thing does go on in the UK, but to a far lesser extent. This is a problem which could easily be worked on if governments and other organisations within society were to get involved to make a change for the better, and to invest in these young people's futures. But unfortunately, governments would rather get involved in "quick-fix" tokenistic schemes which look good on paper and in the media, to boost their popularity. Long-term projects just don't have that "bang for your buck" impact on the public which wins them votes. Thanks for your response, and for sharing your experiences.
@gsnarayanan (1704)
• India
25 Jan 07
It is the family back ground which is mostly responsible for such behaviours of presenmt day's youth. They should have been contrlled at the young age.Now only the time can decide on howthe future generationsare to be moulded.
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25 Jan 07
I think that upbringing does have a big impact on these kids, but isn't the only factor. Not all credit or blame for how a kid behaves should be attached to the parents, but upbringing and boundaries are important - especially as most teenagers push the boundaries, whilst trying to find their place in society, and trying to find out who they are becoming. Thanks for raising those points, and adding to this debate!
@wasim989 (2298)
• India
25 Jan 07
I think this is a growing problem and I think the movies and programs are playing a vital role in converting the youth into a voilent monster and there is nothing we can do and I think the situation will only get worse day by day.
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26 Jan 07
There is plenty we can do. I don't think you can blame the media for this sort of behaviour - their parents ultimately decide what sorts of TV and film they're watching, and in any case any kid who's brought up properly understands right from wrong, and the difference between television and reality. If kids are treated as monsters, they'll behave like monsters, and of course there's plenty we can do, as I've mentioned in some of my comments to previous responses. Thanks for adding to the debate!
• India
25 Jan 07
People in society are supposed to behave in a particular manner which is acceptable to others and that is what is known as social. when somebody acts diffently and in a manner which troubles others, it is called anti social and that person as antisocial element
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26 Jan 07
Thanks for your perspective. I think it's a matter of respect and consideration of others. If young people get this kind of consideration, understanding and respect, they'll be a lot more likely to give it back to those around them. If however, they're pulled down and viewed with suspicion and fear, they'll be more likely to respond in a negative way, and less likely to develop self-respect.
@xiongqh (791)
• Hong Kong
25 Jan 07
yes, same problem is happened in my country. The younger became more and more violent, they don't want to solve problem by communication, just fight each other. THe younger don't obey rules that made by adult, and think it is not useful for them, they want to escape from the society. The solution is give good education and parent give them a good family value
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26 Jan 07
That's a real shame. I think that a good education and good upbringing would help, and also feeling like they're valued members of society can make a difference. I think that violence sometimes comes from frustration and feeling that they don't belong and aren't appreciated. How does the media in your country portray them? If TV programmes tend to show young people as violent and dangerous, or useless, then the young people will of course react to that too. There's also the fact that if young people are shown in a negative way on TV, the older and younger generations will believe what they see, and judge the young folks in that light. That's the way it is in the UK anyway, and this is also what's causing them to drop out of society and to resent everyone else. Thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts!
@Spid4r (176)
• India
25 Jan 07
It appears in my opinion that the electronic tag is a status symbol as is an ASBO.The youth of today seem to think that it is great to be a thug. Throw them all in a boot camp or bring back National Service. The anti-social behaviour is becomming quite concerning now therefore the government should be looking seriously to ammend the laws in order to protect all of us as the amount of victims is growing rapidly. There is no respect anymore in todays youth. I wonder how they themselves would feel if one of their own families were to be subjected to anti-social behaviour/s.
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26 Jan 07
I don't really agree with you that a boot camp or national service is the way forward. I think that often the youngsters are subjected to anti-social behaviour from others. If that's the norm at home and on the streets, and if everyone they encounter assumes they are like that too, they'll be more likely to behave in that way. I think that the answer is to not be quite so quick to judge them all by the same stereotype, to provide them with a good education, training, and facilities, so that they'll feel they have positive options within society, don't feel that society has written them off, or that there's no hope. If society treats them like human beings, they'll be more likely to behave as such. Those teenagers who see tags and ASBOs as a status symbols aren't the norm, but that sort of rebellious bravado-based reaction shows the sort of treatment they've received from society, and their outlook on life. These kids need to be given the opportunities to make something of their lives, to build their self-respect, and to feel that they're part of society, not abandoned by society.
• India
25 Jan 07
in my town there is no such thing like gangs in teens... all are given with good education and brought up in a good manner... only when they grow up and ready to get some job if they are job less they will hang around like gangs but do no harm to any one... it's all in the way we see people...
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26 Jan 07
Thanks for your input and experiences. I'm glad to hear that there aren't any gangs where you live. I agree that the way we see people has a huge impact on the problem and the perceived problem (which aren't always the same thing). I think that when there are gangs of youths who do start to behave in a bullying and violent way towards others, it can be for a variety of reasons, but if we treat all teenagers as though they're violent and disrespectful, they'll be more likely to start behaving in that way. Thanks again for responding to the topic.
@fero4u (19)
• India
25 Jan 07
....I Agree ur point...Anti social behaviour is all comes from the way the society molds each and every one...So It has the responsibility of handling each and every thing carefully... Media which hardly shows some good things only once in a fortnight ...Movies shows rowdy s re hero s, one makes fraud lead a richest one...Culture s of the society is not be atke to any point by every induvidual..Thats leads to various abuses
26 Jan 07
I certainly think that the media plays a role in this, and American films can often glorify greedy reckless violent "heroes", which isn't sending the right message to kids. Thanks for sharing this perspective.
@cjayden (110)
• United States
25 Jan 07
I think this all goes back to the way the child was raised..alot had to deal with the lack of the parent guidence at home. Everything is being taken away from the kids in some communities so is all they have to do is walk around and find some trouble for themselves to get into because they are so bored.
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26 Jan 07
I think that's a valid point. It's not just down to this one factor, but this has a lot to do with it. Firm boundaries, a grasp of social responsibility and self-respect are all things which ought to be instilled in a child's upbringing, and whilst everyone goes a bit haywire around their teens, knowing these things will help the teenagers during their adolescence, and also stop them from going completely off the rails. Thanks for your thoughts.
@RAMPersona (2033)
• Philippines
24 Jan 07
you are right, it is because of media coverage that we are aware of the 'activities' our youth are in, watching those investigative reports, documentaries on tv, it is unfortunate that those involved were result of parents' neglect, abuse, or anything no-no on parenting guidebook, not to mention the 'unpleasant' outside world away from home..
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24 Jan 07
Do you think that the coverage we get is balanced though? Sometimes the media only shows the gangs of youths who terrorise neighbourhoods, not the teenagers standing about, chatting amongst themselves. Anti-social behaviour does go on, but not all teens are like that, and the world outside from home isn't all bad. Do you think that community police or wardens on the streets would dissuade youths from acting anti-socially?
@anne_143god (5387)
• Philippines
25 Jan 07
I agree with you that most of the teens now adays are more violent they always want to make fight on streets and maybe it is because of the over exposure to violence in media. I hope media would think to be responsible enought on what they are showing.
25 Jan 07
I don't think that most teens are necessarily more violent nowadays, and I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. I think that some of them are very violent, but not most of them. The media in this country shows them as either being completely conformist and obedient, or as violent thugs. The reality for most teens is somewhere in between. It's a difficult time in their lives, as they're trying to find out who they are, society doesn't cater for them, and views them as a threat, so they feel very cut off from society. Many people see a group of teenage friends on the street, and immediately think they're up to no good, whereas they may just be out with their friends because they like to meet and gossip with them away from their parents (as I used to do as a teenager). We shouldn't judge people by their age, and I think that the media just like to create fear and sensationalism in society, as it gets them ratings. Thanks for your response though! Have a good day!
• India
25 Jan 07
Today young people want more freedom, they don't want to abide by rules and regulation. They want that everybody should listen to them but when things don't go in there way they do something, which is not accepted by the normal society and we call them "Anti- Social Behaviour". Yes, we need to listen them what they want to say. We should help them to get rid of this problem. Be with them show them the right path.
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25 Jan 07
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the matter. I think that if more young people knew that people listened to them, and that people didn't just judge them, they'd probably be less angry. They generally know right from wrong, so it's a case of treating them properly in the first place so they don't turn against society. Cheers!
@freesoul (3021)
• Egypt
25 Jan 07
On first hand experience I see anti-social behavior is rising around me and it's justified for many reasons .. political, economical, personal, etc . I guess every place and time has its circumstances and when someone is at the wrong place and at the wrong time you can't blame them much for their actions.. in some places maybe things are better or the anti-social behavior is not justified as it happens in other places.
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25 Jan 07
I think that just because something's understandable, it doesn't take responsibility away from the individuals (or their parents). Responsibility also lies with society, but there's also the fact that many kids aren't the violent stereotypes they're portrayed as being in the media. Thanks for sharing your opinions.
@nuffsed (1271)
24 Jan 07
Laurie says "there's a lot of free stuff they could be doing", yet I can't think of anything exciting or testing or entertaining...Can you? We only have to cross the channel to see how differently we treat children in U.K. From the earliest age children are a problem here. We just do not like kids. We love the choochy choochy babies in buggies, but that's it. As soon as they can walk they are a problem. There are large play facilities around the country now, ready to take Mums money so that the little ones can rock and roll about on swings and in ball pools etc. But as soon as kids are old enough to go about alone or with their pals, they become YOBS! I hate that word, I hate that newspapaers make such fond use of it. It only serves to alienate any young person without just cause. So, teen-age kids need to show off, they are under the influence of hormones, at odds with parents, trying to find out who they are and where they fit in. Yes that means getting noisey, and competetive and doing crazy daring stuff, like any young animal wanting to grow up naturally and well balanced. But we refuse to cater for that, we wont have it, it's not "good behaviour". Of course not!! Rather than spend a few civic dollars on free facilities where they can blow off steam, we demonise and ban them, exclude them, hope they will go away. Business men spend money on extra insurances, extra guard rails and screens for shop windows and stuff to mitigate any damage. Rather than spend a few dollars arranging for facilities to be made available. There will always be a few who do not want to use the local facility. Or who will just rebel against anything offered, and yes ASBOS and stuff are needed for the worst offenders. But by and large, young people will respond to some kind of kindness, but we need to do it without strings, and that is something we just have not got to grips with at all.
24 Jan 07
Top answer again nuffsed! Where I live, there are a few mini basketball courts which aren't maintained, and some green areas, where the kids congregate in groups. Teenagers are trying to find their place in society, and a society which demonises and excludes them is going to make what is a difficult transition under the best of circumstances, a living hell for these kids. If they're not being stretched, allowed to express themselves or socialise, they'll turn on the society which represses them. When kids are bored, they get boisterous, and often do silly and destructive things. They want to establish their own pecking orders, to fit in with their peers and the older teens (whether they're a good influence or not), and to push the boundaries. Moderation, proper boundaries, understanding, and providing for their needs are what's called for. We've all been teenagers, and we all know what it's like, so why do we have such a hard time understanding what it's like for these kids? Fashions, music and gadgets may change with time, but human nature never will. Thanks again for a thoughtful balanced opinion!
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@shila07 (514)
• Bhutan
25 Jan 07
I am from Bhutan, Asia. Here in Bhutan, only rare yougers are found voilent sometimes but its very rare in Bhuta. Bhutan is a beautifu and lovely peace country, so that type of problem is rare here and donot have experience
25 Jan 07
Thank-you for sharing your experiences shila07. I've heard a lot about Bhutan, and as I understand it, it's a lovely place, and must be a good country to raise children in. Am I right in thinking that it's only since you got TV there that there's been any violence? I think it's a real shame that the influence of the rest of the world has corrupted some of your young people. Hopefully they will learn that this isn't the right way to behave. I wish you all the best, and quite envy your living in such a wonderful place :-)