Remove or retain the machines to prolong life?
@arseniajoaquin (1732)
Philippines
January 24, 2007 6:19pm CST
I attended the worship service last Sunday and as usual sister-in-Christ
Irene sat at my left side. After the worship, we were happy as her 4
months old granddaughter by her niece talks with us in her own way and
laughs and her voice is very loud. Sister Irene carried her and was very
happy. Then sister Irene and her only son accompanied her niece with the child to their home.
At about 4pm, sister Irene felt dizzy, bowed her head, and became unconscious. While at the taxi to the Philippine Heart Center for Asia, she vomited twice. Upon reaching the hospital, she was pronounced comatose.
I visited her yesterday and only the machines attached to her make her keep on breathing. If you are to decide, would you have the machines removed and let her go or retain the machines and wait until she breathes her last? Why?
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@luzamper (1357)
• Philippines
25 Jan 07
It depends upon the condition of the patient. Even if the machines are there, if the patient really could not endure, he/she will die and in this case I would not pull the plug. But if the patient seems to be stable with all such machines and would take too long a time yet to stop breathing, if there's really no more chance that he/she would have a normal life that even if he/she lives, the patient would be a vegetable, I would bravely pull the plug to end the suffering of both the patient and loved ones.
@mansha (6298)
• India
25 Jan 07
Who are we to decide a person has to take up all the breadths he has been alloted on this earth. Machine or no machine she may survive or die with or without them. I will just pray to God to do whats best for her. She may even survive gfor all you klnow.we see miracles like these happen a lot. I wouldn't take her off achine but let her be and give her a chance to live.
@ashumit02 (818)
• United States
25 Jan 07
Certainly not at present levels.Thank God.
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@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
25 Jan 07
Prolonging life is God's sole prerogative. Man can not prolong life, he can only prolong the agony. If I have to make the choice, I will pray and ask God if He is willing to let this person live without the machine, please heal hear. Otherwise, though it hurts so much, I will have to pull the plug and stop prolonging her agony.
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@bunnylady01 (483)
• United States
25 Jan 07
I believe we all should die with dignity and do not have the right to prolong life by machines. I think if it your time to go, it should not be interfered with. I myself do not want to be kept on this earth hooked up to machines that breathe for me, give me food etc. If there is no hope for me, let me go. Life must go on for those we leave behind and it will be easier done if my life is not prolonged. However, each person should have the right to chose, it is their life. But, when they cannot say, then their loved ones must make that choice based one what the person would have wanted not what they want to be done.
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@eliza_bennet (133)
• South Africa
25 Jan 07
I think remove the life support. These people are not able live or lead a life . I think it would be wrong to torture them by keeping them alive especially over long periods of time.
Its always hard to say goodbye to a loved one but we should consider that if they are finally put to rest then their organs can be used to save another life . Good things can come from taking them off life support. People would prefer to be remembered as the girl or guy who helped saved a life as opposed to the person who stayed on life support for months or even years.
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
25 Jan 07
I am really sorry to hear about Irene.
I think is some cases doctors prefer to keep a patient breathing that way to put less strain on the body which gives the body more energy to heal itself.
I wouldn't take her off and perhaps in a few days she will wake up and wonder what the heck happened.
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@Deane_2005 (1644)
• Philippines
27 Jan 07
Euthanasia is considered one of the most controversial issues right now. To agree or to disagree depends on the family but Euthanasia is morally incorrect but for me if that happens I will surely agree, I love my grandmother so much and if that will happens to her I rather had her undergo such stuff because I don't like to see her gain more sufferings. It would be hard to do that but if she will in her clear state she would also agree.We are just prolonging person's sufferings, I know people disagree Euthanasia but would you like your patient to look that way , a live vegetables and will surely die without those apparatus. But I strongly disagree with Euthanasia if it's going to be done at soonest time, I should have agreed to it if the patient has been comatose for almost 6 months to 1 year, then that's the time you will have lost hope for patient recovery, because cells ,organs and tissues have surely been damaged and their is no sign of recovery.
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@sidneysoad (101)
• United States
25 Jan 07
I'm so sorry for you...this sounds like a horrible, heart-wrenching time that you are going through. I have already voiced my wishes to my family-I do not want to be kept alive on a machine, especially if there is no chance of recovery. I believe when it is your time to die, it is your time to go, and you shouldn't prolong the inevitable.
Was Irene experiencing any medical conditions? This is so sad. I pray for you and her family.
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@quique777 (22)
• Mexico
25 Jan 07
I believe that if doesn´t have remedy it should be left without apparatuses so that she can rest in peace
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@APMorison (424)
• United States
25 Jan 07
you can not breath your last when a machine is pumping air for you, that only happens when you are allowed to die when your time is up.
if its your time to go, then its your time, she was happy and with family and then The Call came. medical science is in some ways not the best answer. If she believed that God would call her when her time was up, do you think she would want to be held in limbo like this?
@celinlocario (334)
• Philippines
27 Jan 07
I would not remove it. I will wait until she stops breathing. If it's God's will, she will die when God lets her.
@mikeyr6000le (2123)
• United States
25 Jan 07
Did she ever talk about what she would want? I'm pretty sure my dad said he would not want to be that way. It is a very hard thing to do even if you know it's what they would want. In one sence they really are not living, they are just being kept alive by machenies. In another sence they may just need time to recover and they are just helping her until her body can recover. It is a very hard decision for you or any one.
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@driscollini (174)
• United States
25 Jan 07
M personal opinion is that because I wouldn't want to live like that I would want to pull the machines from her. God has obviously called her home and even though man in his foolish wisdom has found ways to try and prolong life we can not keep the soul from our God.
My wife and I have discussed this and it has been decided that if that would ever happen to either of us we would "pull the plug." It would be far better for her to be in glory than to be stuck to some machine waiting for our bodies to just give out. If there was a chance for me to let my wife go to glory I would not deny her that, no matter the expence to me. Yes I love my wife and I would miss her greatly, but knowing that she would be in heaven is far greater for me than knowing that she is in a vegitative state, wanting to have the past back.
Of course you must way the hope for recovery in there. If there is no hope then let them go. It will be better for you and for them and everyone else effected.
@livingtwist (410)
• United States
25 Jan 07
Sorry to hear of her illness and the machines may allow her ime to heal.. I'm sure in some cases after time has pasted there could be no progress and I would think mayb then make those decissions but it a decission most of find hard to decide ..
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@katty0004 (386)
• United States
25 Jan 07
That is a hard question to answer, a machine is keeping you alive what about brain waves is there any , me and my husband decided a long time ago we do not want to be kept on a machine ,we have it in our living will ands what we want ,
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@mrscinxav (118)
• United States
25 Jan 07
i hate mercy killing.its not fair.its also a murder.i m a catholic and i hate it.
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@mrsartemisfowl (55)
• Philippines
25 Jan 07
Euthanasia is a really hard moral decision to make but if I were to decide something crucial like that, I would first take a hard look on the situation. If there is still an inkling of a chance for the patient to like and the resources are available, I would not remove the life support for a long time. I have read the book "just like heaven" and maybe there is but one in 100 cases that this happens but at least there is still a chance.