Fighting for Allah or God?

I think that the whole situation is stupid. But people believe that God speaks to them, and tells them to do crazy things. I believe they are all crazy hearing voices and need medication. If GOD wanted a war, whoever your god is, he can wipe out with rain, he can blow the planet up, he can do whatever he wants. Why would he tell people to kill eachother? I dont know. I hate the war, I hate whole situation. Its stupid and my kids shouldnt have to go through all this drama while growing up.

Okay guys and gals ...The Eagle has landed!! jihad4lyfe, out of respect for red I will entertain your smoke screens for using religion to pratice the ways in which you hope to achieve your personal wants! Firstly... God/Allah being the all powerfull, why would he require the services of mere mortals to do his combating??? He drowned the whole world didn't he to clense the world of it's sinners and spared a few "true" believers and 2 of each animal so as to preserve his creation! So again "why have mere mortals been directed to kill one another! This leads to Secondly.. Thou shalt not kill.. pretty self explanitory! Thirdly... What in anythings name gives Islamics the right to wed a 9, 10, 12, year old and have her bear children!! Was this Allah's/ God's will, or just some perverted man using religion for personal perverted gain??? Fourthly.... Is it also Allah's/ God's will to circumcise young girls, thereby mutilating their bodies and depriving them of pleasure during reproduction practices?? Fifthly... Is it Islamic mens own insecurities that have Islamic women robe up and even have mesh covering their eyes so that they are not looked upon by other men in the way they themselves lustfully look upon other women?? Or is this another manipulted God / Allah directive??? Well while you answer these primary questions, I will gather some really juicy indepth queries for you! red, you are a little devil!! lol

It is interesting how salmon and snapper take the bait red! lol.. But that is exactly the point, they are delusional deranged fanatics that mauipulate religion or peoples beliefs to create their own ends, that is the form beyond the fog!!

Been there, seen that. Nice to see Mylotian emerge well in this discussion. After Mohammed, as you know - the Caliphs ruled the Mossie lands. These were people who merged political and ecclesiatic power. I would say Haroun Al Raschid was probably the most civilized of the lot. They did quite well in their fighting spirit - getting as far as Spain. Sometime in the 9th Century there came a big split - One group became Sunni, whose last political/spiritual leader was lost with the Ottoman empire. The Shias continue to have an Imam, at least till the arrival of the Mahdi. -------------- Every small time muzzein who has access to a loudspeaker and a mosque in most islamic countries has become the SPOKESMAN of Islam. The fact that they are self appointed, escapes notice. The group that propelled the Taliban were a good example. At least the Ayotolla Khomeni went through a process of rigor before he got to attack the US Embassy in Iran. --------------- If every muzzein in a mud mosque in camel/goatland have direct communication with the Allah, then why not these idiot internet savants? -------- Should Mylotian open a special ward for these savants? Because in my opinion, these savants are defenitely not qualified to speak for Allah.

Hmmm... I don't know where to begin... but here's the catch: "Why Allah/God called that man to fight? For what reason? Is that make sense when Allah/God called to fight without any legit reason?" In general sense Allah/God called human to fight evil and endorsed to do good things through life. If you want to know Allah, then there are two source you can learn from. That is The Qur'an and Hadith. Learn from it so you could find out who have the autorithy to speak on behalf of Allah/God. For Your Info: Islam Never endorsed to attack or opress another nation except to depend. I want to cite a good quotation: "You sell it, we buy it".

Well in some religions it is the leader of the church that's speaks for G-d. I personally believe that all religions are based on peace. It is people who make war on the behalf of their religion. So, I don't see G-d,Allah wanting anyone to fight for Him.

as you said, no one can speak for Allah or God. and i vehemently oppose all those who say they fight in the name of God, that Allah wants them to fight for a cause. now, why would God need the help of any mortal to get his work done? He is almighty, all powerful, who can do anything He wants, so it is just an excuse of these vain mortals to shed the blood of their brothers and sisters. God would never ask us to fight and kill one another because He is God. He would not think like the narrow minded mortals, would he?

In my opinion, only God/Allah can speak for God. If some religious zealot told me to fight or to do anything as a commandment to God, I would think as you do. What gives this person the right to speak for God? And why doesn't God speak for himself? The zealots obviously have ulterior motives and are seeking some secondary gain and benefit, whatever it may be, by recruiting followers in "the name of God". I believe that God wants us to live peacefully on this earth, and He would never want us to fight in the name of Him or in the name of Religion or Religious beliefs. He would only command fighting as a means of self protection and protection of a society against evil, closed-minded zealots who want to impose their warped beliefs and ideals on other people.

In fact, the only one real true God never asked anyone to fight for Him. He holds the ultimate Truth and knows that all those other gods invented by Man are evil, as Man is evil by essence. My God would never ask me to fight for Him. All praise the Flying Spaghetti Monster for He means Peace! May you be touched by His Noodly Appendage.

If one really belive in god then first thing to understand is that he never asks anybody to fight,god is a peace lover.He is a god nothing is impossible for him,the world is created by him & how is that he wants anybody to fight for him,then fight against what? this is a silly question to think & ask,what do you say?

I agree with you on this one. Only God can speak for what he wants. I have however heard many cases where people claim that God told them to do this and that. How? Does God only talk to these chosen few people? It looks to me if God talks to one, he will talk to us all. Right? Am I wrong? Are there just a chosen few? If, so why? I thought we were all created equally? Seriously. You make a very good point.

i don't think god wand us to figth after all we all r his creation and he would never like one of his creation to kill another. this alltogether is funda of some sick mentellity"fight for god".

I think God called human just to fight evil. If you want to meet and talk to the God, you can use the Bible or other holy books. The God wants his humans live in this world with peace with anothers human only.

I can speak to your confusion you see allah and the God of the christians are not one and the same they cannot possibly be you see the christians worship jesus the son of their God (Yaweh) whist the Qoran clearly states that Allah has no sons so how then can they be the same God?it is impossible!also our bible tells us we are to have no other God before him So for a Christian to accept allah is completly against the commandments!

I think we all 'hear' from God alot. But I would be very surprised to hear him ask me to hurt someone. Unless I was walking down the road and saw someone trying to abduct a child, then I wouldn't be surprised and would spring into action. I have to suppose that the same can be true about a hitler, or the genocide going on in Darfur. But I would have to say a voice saying "kill in my name" has got to be a wrong voice! Ot as in the crusades and elsewhere, "convert or die" cannot be the true God. God gave 'fee-will' and it's running its course (or it's not 'free-will'). This is not a world gone awry, and someone has to set it right for Him! No, it's just an unavoidable lesson. Life without God crashes and He is proven right. God's other option was to make robots.

Would God need a human to fight his battles? Humans can't do a good job at most things, and since God is supposed to be the most perfect, why should he call an imperfect creation of his to solve what he considers a problem? If a God calls anyone to war, that is not a true God, be it Hindu, Muslim, Christan, Jew, Buddhist or a God from any faith in the world

There is no need to fight in this life of ours. Life is to short and should be enjoyed in the best way we can. There is too much grief in this world and everyone should make it stop so that we can all get along and live in harmony with each other.

peoples are fool to fight for same allah or god

Wars go on till men refuse to fight all the best urban

i think god and allah are one and the same the difference is in their holy book like kuran and bible. on then name of allah one must not fight . then there will be peace in the world.