Are atheist never heard of the Bible that they keep being one??

Thank you for your response ,good points you gave here.

I would have to agree with misskatonic. People who do not believe in God just don't know or feels he exist. Some want actual scientific proof. Other could have that scientific proof smack them on the head and still not think that there is a God. I can understand some of their postitions...however I strongly believe in God - and I am not a Christian.

I like your comment, that is important is you believe in God. I rate you high for that.

I agree with judy, God is man's creation to teach men about being civilised. An Atheist knows and understands religion much better than what believers know. Know the context and history of the times when bible or any of the other scriptures were written. Peope were barbaric towards weak in the society, lepers, poor, women and children. Man was an animal and fittest of the survival was the order of the day, These people our prophetrs took up on themselves this huge task to control the basic instincts in the man and teach him to be kind and giving and tolerant. Believe in God if it fills you with hope and strength but know your religion first and know why it was written and when. Jesus was a great amn who embraced lepers and spoke for the poor and trodden and oppressed. Non beleivers in no way wish to diminsh him, its just that respect the man for how great he was and not because some priest or your parents told you so.

Really my curiosity are being answered, now my learning of an atheist is improved. This is just a matter of discussion and the most important thing is we remain friends, i dont argue you with your interpretation of the bible. Coz i dont interpret it myself I just want to learn from you and thank you very much again.

Exactly, mansha, usually those who actually had the RIGHT to choose their religion go off to being an atheist. Notice how everyone else here was most likely forced into believing and claim it's 'faith.' If you're contacting God then I suggest you go see a doctor. I don't want to start provoking people here but from the education I had it just seems like common sense that God does not exist. There are a variety of religions with a variety of Gods, how can ONE God be the real God? If we look back in time we clearly see that religions were INVENTED to control society. People back then were quite naive and even barbaric. Honestly, I find it quite strange anyone could believe in God.

God is a loving God. He sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to die in your place on a very cruel cross. Jesus was totally sinless and was willing to make the Ultimate Sacrifice for and for me. If you read the Bible, it tells of God's love for us. It tells of God's awesome promises that He has made and has kept. A true Christian would not want your money for their own selfish desires. And God is not responsible for wars, we are. We choose to hate, to be greedy and proud. Jesus taught us to be loving, forgiving and humble. God will have the very Final Say as He is in control at all times, no matter how chaotic and crazy things may be. I'm so glad that I know Jesus as my Lord and Savior! He's so good to me!

Ramones, I did pretty much the same in my own quest to learn about religions. I didn't read the JW or Scientology texts though. I was more of a fan of reading up on more "traditional" mythologies, like the older polytheistic stuffs. At least the Vatican doesn't sell bones and other relics anymore. : ) Not to be rude Springlady, but you should brush up on your Old Testament. It tells of armies attacking others at the order of the Judeo-Christian diety (and killing all the children of those they conquered other than the virginal female children which were divided up amongst the soldiers)...

As a grown up man I did myself reading of the many books you mention. I myself have heard of salvation and only true God, If you listen to all this is so confusing so I listen to my heart. I believe in God but you are far more better than me for I commited lots of sinful ways. In your life you will encounter many question but the ansswer is mostly you dont know. Our only difference is my belief in Him who created me, an Almigthy One Who knows everything and with our human minds is never match to His. What ever it is , I love you my friend.

I like your point and myself a so called christian tend to abhor it. But I do not question who ever preach it and i simply listen, for they are just human. For example, there are priest in our community accused of having a relationship with a woman which is a mortal sin for the catholic and the community will then ostrazise him for his misdeed. Others will critizise the church. Well, different people recieved the problem differently. the priest is still a person with free will that anytime can commit sin and its natural. But this is not the basis of me changing faith. It is God the father and his son Jesus is I adore, not the priest, not the church, not hte bible. For this things are only element or instrument to it. Your faithfulness to God should remain. Thank you again for your inputs. and God bless you

Thank you for your comment , but I met someone and she is very good person. I have friends of different religion and what is important to me is ,they are my friends

Right. In friendship, what we believe in is not important, but rather on how we respect each other's views and beliefs. I'm happy to be your friend :)

It's easy to split hairs, aileen, but for all practical purposes, when most people say that they don't believe in god, it's exactly the same thing is saying that gods don't exist. You may think that there's only one proper way to say it, but that doesn't change anything. We all tend to be somewhat sloppy in how we use language, and I'm sure if you asked most atheists what they meant by not believing in god, you would learn that they mean that gods do not exist. That certainly doesn't give anyone the license to set up artificial definitions to suit their own purposes, which is what the religious tend to do when they can't come up with better arguments in support of their beliefs.

Many problems with your post. First , many atheists doesn´t believe that there is any god and don't need a god to tell them what is right. For sin I understand making wrong actions. That is not the case, you are generalizing, I am an atheist and I do not commit crimes, you don't know ALL the atheists and cannot tell it about ALL of them. Second, many atheists were believers once, that is my case, but reasoning led them to disbelief in the existence of any gods, it is a rational process. I pretty much live the same life I used to when I believed, didn't have to gave up one single thing. Another thing, every single evidence to support the existence of god , that I saw until today, and I do not claim to have saw all, was a matter of faith or had another explanation. Still waiting evidence to support god´s existence. Until there, the bible is just another mythological book. If you are so sure about your God, prove it. Last, I read the bible, all of it, many times, as believer and non-believer, and reading the bible was one of the key elements that lead me to atheism. Good luck to you and have a nice day (or night, don't know on which timezone you are).

Umm. jricbt is right. It has nothing to do with saying there is no god just so one can live in sin. Just because one is an athiest doesn't mean they lack moral values and commit the sins listed off in the Bible. Oh wait, I guess if you count not believing in a Christian mythological being as a sin then they do sin and Springlady is right... This is so confusing. : ) And who says that those that claim to believe in gods give up their bad ways? There have been plenty of people do some really terrible things in the name of a god (christian god and others).

If you are so sure that God does not exist, YOU prove that. I don't know what happened in your life to make you angry at God, but the worst possible thing you can ever do is to turn your back on Him. There will come a day when you will see Him face to face and that day will be too late. Don't let it be too late for you! God loves you still and wants you to know Him. God be with you.

Its like saying goes like this, the older we get the wiser we become, it should not be the other way around. I will pray for you myfriend that you find your soul searching someday, ask yourself "why are you here in this world and what is your purpose" if you find it , eat drink and be merry'' the cows in the pasture have better of than you who you called yourself a human with a higher intelligence than them. Any how , God bless you just the same.

Well said, my thoughts exactly. I just couldnt articulate it as well as you lol

No matter how much you read the bible is a useless thing, there is a saying that, if there are good things, there is also bad things which is purely natural . You only believe things that you see.

just for curiosity , i want learn from your responses thank you

Yes... I see scripture that claims the earth is the center of the universe and I know it is wrong. I see a story about a boat that supposedly carried 4000+ (there are about 4000 known species of mammals) breeding pairs of animals for 40 days during a world wide flood and common sense says that it can not be true. To forgo logic for the warm fuzzy of blind faith does not fit any definition of wisdom that I know. I guess we will have to agree to disagree though because I do not have the wisdom to debate this issue...

That was the ancient world where people never get out of space, like their assumption that time that the world is flat, where mens knowledge is limited to that. Where in the size of the boat constructed was perfect 100 x 50 x 30 cubit or equivalent 21,091 cubic meter of space in the modern world. A pair of every living things or 800 heads as you mention which is not so much. Have seen livestock ship of 10,000 DWT carrying 50,000 heads of cows to hundred thousand sheep, can you imagine that magnitude. It is possible,,, What you think Well, my friend im just joking, i dont intend to battle brain with you, forgive me. It is just nice to discuss and make people a little bit upset. Ha ha ha God bless you anyway, all I know I am still innocent what is this world...

Yes my friend , you interpret what you see and you decide it is wrong, then you being what you are believes more firmer that there is no God, But I tell you knowing and believing in God is wisdom. You only believe for what you see in this world, knowing that God is far more intelligent than man. Our mind is limited to that, then the interpretation of your mind is limited as well. Thank you just the same.

I will repeat, to say I am sorry for shooting such a question, Pride or what ever is like chasing the wind. Every person have their reason and I respect every one. Thank you my friend.

It's simply because we did not have the religion forced on us or we saw signs clearly showing that religion could just be nonsense.

well unfortunately they dodn't cause this whole religion thing is just nonsence and then why the religion because it's ultimate way to keep a person honest and moral.

If thought and reasoning are not prayer than you are correct, I do not pray in a formal sense but I do daily look in to my heart and I constantly am re-examining my beliefs. I do try to live by one thing, 'Do no harm.' If you know a better way please tell me.

i like your comment for you posses the art of humility to accept, I applaude you for that. It is not enough to give no harm to others, what is important is the word Love your neighbor, How to love your neighbor, Learn to open your heart to the needy, the one poorer than you are, you will realize as you pray thanking Him that you give, His closeness to you. But give with a heart ss what was written , when your right hand gives, your left hand should never know it. Thank you my friend for you have a heart to listen. May God Bless you more of your needs.

Of course , you dont pray as well and your knowledge is limited through your reading and you dont examine your heart neither, that is your belief and it will never change, for you are what you are.

Its you who said that, and i've never said that. and it was not stated in the Bible that he had a daughter. I dont know.

I like your thread and explanation of the differrent religion. Actually, there is no point in discussing, everyone will protect each belief that for all ,theirs is the truth. Thats is why I always say, as long as you are happy, we are all happy. Thank you for your contribution.

so you are trying to tell us that christianity is the only true religion and other religions are just fake. so from your aspect Jesus is the God. well you see he is actually nothing cause GOD is the God. christ is just only his son. and yea a good point, if he has a son how do you know that he doesn's have a doughter, or a wife.

Thank you very much slickcut, realy there are chosen ones who need not be told but understand. Need not a bible to read but listen with their heart. God bless you my friend and to everyone reading my lot.

Thank you Mikeyr, then lets all be merry. Your knowlegde is good. What is important in todays world is respect to everyones belief and respect to every person. Thank you again.

Thank you for your point. Lately, I was reading one said we have blind faith now you mentioned the correct response to that " they have a blind heart" ha ha ha ha, I was supposed to say , better talk to the blind so you will understand, Thank you lady, I am learning to everyone.

Ive heard of a study by scientist about the presence of a soul in the body and leaving the corpse after the last breath, are you familiar with it. Was there a finding to it. and what can you say about that. I dont intend to convince anyone that christians are right, its a matter of discussion. We have our our own freewill to decide what we think it is rigth for us. If someone is happy with that , that is important! Thank you for your point.

now I know you gave a good answer, thank you very much.

It is hard for people to believe unless their is proof of something supreme. Let us see the world like this. Superman is real, he helps every one, he corrects everything because he objects to everything that is bad. Surely, no doubt for the presence of a super hero. therefore, we will not have a question like this. The whole world will be very good, and in peace. Because there is a supreme being who is always there to intervene. Now, you consider that life, you are better of to a robot, then free will is suppresed. In my opinion, the state of the world as God like it to be is perfect. I like your point and God bless you all.

I am learning from your point, Ill try your suggestion , thank you for your response