Hugo Chavez has called George Bush "The Devil"
By nuffsed
@nuffsed (1271)
February 7, 2007 9:02am CST
He is promoting Bolivarian Socialism throughout South America and is a staunch supporter of Fidel Castro. his popularity looks set to grow as the countries he has freed from USA trade deals are now reaping the benefits of real growth in their economies.
So why are so many Westerners seeing him as a negative influence in world politics?
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@Netsbridge (3253)
• United States
7 Feb 07
Because many Westerners are not only void of commonsense, they are hypocrites and do not like to hear the truth about almost anything. I think Venezuelan president Chavez simply gave his opinion based on his observation of matters - freedom of speech, one would think.
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
11 Feb 07
People like you need to quit assuming that citizens and governments are the same thing. We the PEOPLE, or "westerners" as you call us, are not a bit hep to the sh*t that's going on. We are not happy about the state of the world and what's going on in it. We are losing the freedoms slowly but surely over here. Our government tells us that our freedom is what makes the rest of the world envy and despise us. Just like they tell us that easterners are all religious nuts and want to blow up America...most of us have enough sense not to believe that any more than we believe other propaganda.
That's what is good about MyLot. We can get to know the people of other cultures, not just what our governments and media tell us about those people and cultures. Get to the truth of the matters that we as humans from different cultures have been taught to believe all our lives.
Please stop assuming all Americans are dumb and of the devil. It is simply not true. We don't have any more control over our leaders than you do, despite what the sheeple say.
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
10 Feb 07
If you as duly elected President of Venezuela were captured in a coup attempt, held on an airbase and saw a plane with American registration land and take off, you would be a bit peeved with the US.
And yet Chavez was the first world leader to offer aid to the victims of Katrina, which Bush declined.
After almost 200 years (2011) of independence, it would appear that the legacy of Simon Bolivar is being reinstated. It is early days yet, but if Chavez is able to rationalize the distribution in the Venezeulan economy on the back of 3.5 billion barrels of oil exported each year, then he would have succeeded.
Chavez's personal odessey and rise is a souce of inspiration to many Venezuelans to the point that there was a massive counter coup in 2002. In YOUR FACE Uncle Sam, said the people of Venezuela. Clearly US machinations in Venezuela did not work. And while Chavez is regarded as public enemy number 1 by the Bush administration, there is little hope for a rapproachment.
America would best adopt a policy of rapproachment and non-interference and strive to work with Venezuela towards a more inclusive relationship with the OAS (Organization of American states). But let us see what happens when the Democrats occupy the White House next.
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
7 Feb 07
Well, I ain't mad at the guy.
He says he smelled sulphur and I wasn't there to say otherwise, so who knows?
Either way, he is against the New World Order and people need to cut him a break and stay out of his business.
We need to be worried about what's going on inside our borders and quit worrying about what other people are doing.
Not minding our own business is what has gotten us into trouble to begin with IMO.
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
7 Feb 07
because he's crazy, he's riding the swell of socialism in a country that reacted well to it because they are poor, he doesn't have a good human rights record, and again, he's crazy.
But I guess no one is really bad except the US; Iran, Iraq, North Korea, etc, everyone is just being portrayed unfairly right?
@nuffsed (1271)
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7 Feb 07
Nicey, it would give your comments a great boost, if you could refrain from personal derogatory comments without any evidence or relevant information, to indicate that you have taken time to research for facts.
Almost any random quote from Wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez
would negate your comment.
@CatWrites (33)
• United States
10 Feb 07
Calling George Bush the devil was a blatant political ploy to boost his popularity by taking advantage of Bush's unpopularity.
How good a leader he actually is is slightly harder to clearly define, however, because he has a shady record in some areas, but a stellar one in others. There is also a question of his dependence on the oil supply- he uses those profits to pay for most of his social programs that make him so popular, but what will he do when the oil goes dry?
But more to the point, why do we hate him?
Because his movement is a threat to US domination over world politics and economics. Whether that would ultimately be a good thing or not is yet another debate.
@Mednurse9 (18)
• United States
10 Feb 07
Well, according to research Pres. Chavez has embraced vitually every enemy of the USA past and presetn from Sadam Hussein to Moammor Khaddaif to the Taliban and Iran.
Not to mention ties with guerilla movements.
I think this is why alot of Westerners see him as a negative force.
check them out...
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/050531a.aspx
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1187165,00.html
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/hugo_chavez/index/htm
@nuffsed (1271)
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11 Feb 07
From your first link:..Quote"But if you travel to the barrios of Caracas, you hear a different story. Because here you get the feeling that Chavez is the revenge of the poor on a society that before never seemed to care about them. Many living in grinding poverty believe Venezuela's brand of corrupt capitalism is the reason they are poor. Chavez means hope. Here, he is no dictator.
This Chavista, or follower of Chavez, says he hopes Chavez rules forever. What they say in the USA is a lie," he says, "because Chavez is not a dictator. Chavez is a president who has decided to govern on behalf of the poor."
Last year, Chavez spent four billion dollars in oil profits on social programs, like a sewing co-op, which also includes political indoctrination every morning. State money also funds neighborhood food programs."~~End extract~~~~
From your second: Quote: "The rise of Venezuela's left-wing President, Hugo Chavez, is a lesson in what can happen when the U.S. disses an entire continent. After 9/11, when most Latin American nations refused to endorse the U.S. invasion of Iraq, President Bush testily turned his back on the region—but not before he was widely accused of backing a failed 2002 coup against Chavez, Bush's loudest critic south of the border. Washington denies the charge, but the perception of U.S. bullying won Chavez international sympathy. His anti-U.S. Bolivarian Revolution has been roaring ever since. At the same time, U.S. influence in Latin America is perhaps at its lowest ebb. As the Bush Administration cuts development aid to the region, Chavez, who controls the hemisphere's largest oil reserves, is giving cash-strapped neighbors discounts and favorable financing on Venezuelan oil and billions of dollars in loans. That largesse, coupled with Latin America's sharp antiglobalization mood, is helping a stunning number of leftists win or lead in Latin presidential elections today.
Chavez's growing ties to Iran have prompted U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to brand him a threat to hemispheric stability. "I sting those who rattle me," Chavez said recently in his weekly TV address, "so don't mess with me, Condoleezza!" But goading America into messing with him has so far proved to be a formula for success for Chavez, 51, who is widely expected to win re-election in December."~~report ends~~~~
Your third link is not working for me (Page not found.)
Your links do not appear to justify your remarks. I appreciate the US will see Chavez as a great thorn in its side. But I have to say, having looked at the record of what is laughably called "Free Trade" in South America, Chavez looks like the good guy to me.
@babykay (2131)
• Ireland
7 Feb 07
hi there - all I know about Chavez is the documentary that was made while some Irish journalists happened to be there and there was an attempted coup - which he beat somehow. I don't know the details of his policies. But whenever I hear the word socialism I get a bit worried as the two biggest proponents of this dogma, the USSR and the people's republic of China were the two biggest abusers of human rights. More people were killed by Mao's great leap forward policies than the concentration camps run by Nazi's, and this is according the author Jung Chang who lived through it. Apart from that, I think it is good that someone is counterbalancing the rabid capitalism of America.