How good is your retirement plan?
By kriz10
@kriz10 (47)
Canada
February 8, 2007 9:34am CST
Will you have enough money to ever retire. Are you paying into a plan that relies on the the market going up. What would happen to your retirement if the market were to crash?
My husband and I are preparing for retirement by building residual income. We have an online retail business. (If you go to my profile, you can see the link to our website). Interested in doing the same thing? Go to my website and use the contact button at the top of the screen to email us for more information.
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@gahsoon (187)
• Malaysia
25 Feb 07
I invest in mutual funds and shares, and currently looking and learning on property. On the other hand, I am building my online networks. I created a few sites to make some income, with the growth of web2.0, I think this is a potential sector to loook into.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
25 Feb 07
Hi Kriz10,
Great question! My husband and I cover alot of bases in the retirement planning area.
We pay ourselves first. We save, although there's always room for improvement there! We keep our debt low, and invest in several different medium and low risk funds. We've covered our bases with international and domestic small, mid, and large cap funds. We fully invest into both Roth and Traditional IRAs. We thoroughly research the funds that we invest in, and have seen a relatively consistent upward trend in our return. I'm not a big gambler, so I shy away from high-risk venture. I feel that pretty confident that we're on the right track.
The one question that picks at my brain is whether or not we should expand our real estate holdings while the rates are still low. Property values are most certainly overvalued at this point, but we live in an area that is still undervalued, compared to the rest of the nation.
The one factor that's kept us from doing so is: We live in the sticks. So, purchasing investment property would mean buying closer to the metro area. We're both 'do-it-yourself'(ers), so renovation and repair would not be an issue. The issue would be the travel time to and fro, for maintenance. That's an expenditure that cannot be recouped.
Does anyone else have investment property holdings other than in your immediate location? If so, do you pay a property manager?
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@limitup (324)
• United States
28 Feb 07
Excellent. I applaud you for researching your funds before investing. How did you go about researching funds? I don't invest in them and I am curious as to the best way to do that.
I am thinking it's a mix of historical returns, drawdowns, fees, and other things, but I'm not really sure there. Also I wonder how many different funds would be ideal to invest in.
I also like that you mix up your allocations to small, medium, and large cap. Historically small caps outperform large caps big time, but the stocks I see taking off now(at least the ones that are in my portfolio) tend to be in the large cap arena.
I am also hearing good things about stocks in emerging foreign markets (but you know how that goes). Anyway it's great to see you are getting good consistent returns.
I wish I could comment on real estate ventures, but I am largely in the dark there. Surely there are some successful real estates investors in mylot...
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@limitup (324)
• United States
4 Mar 07
Excellent.
I didn't think of seeking funds with low marketing costs. That seems right on, as some of the best funds around take off through performance primarily.
"We also sought out industries and/or companies that mirror our view of future issues." I like this. Many of the great investors that I have read about say to align yourself only with those who share the same trading philosophies/styles/ideas as you. Though through a technical perspective I also think many waste treatment stocks are ready to rise in price.
You seem to have a good grasp on fundamentals. That is great. I have never followed fundamentals in my investing, but I know for a fact that it is a winning approach as well if you know how to use it objectively.
...I have to finish this on another post. Cut & paste would help me here.
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@creationhub (3066)
• Malaysia
28 Feb 07
I have the same aspiration as you. I believe in preparing for my retirement. To me, being debt free is the top priority. Once I have paid up my mortgages and other loans, then it is easier to live on a lesser income.
Residual income is the key to surviving. We cannot depend on just one source of income. In fact, I am working on multiple streams of income both online and offline businesses.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
8 Feb 07
I am only 32 so I save money and plus put in a plan for retirement plan when I have lumpsum. It's growing stabil and I'm not into high risk investment. My husband's friend almost lost half of his investment since he is more into high rish taker. It's OK he can get it back he is still working but I guess if he is older he won't be that daring.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
8 Feb 07
I have no idea. I always gain something from it, so maybe not. The funds are guaranteed by some financial institution or I think government too. My husband has another plan I'm not sure which, for 30 years and it never fails him so far. The other guy I told you about was investing for forign currency too, but I don't know if this was where he almost lost his money.
@limitup (324)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I invest in stocks, but I have done a lot of research and homework before I invested heavily. I have studied carefully the greatest traders and investors and I have reviewed many different trading philosophies and strategies.
The hardest part about investing and trading is sticking with your winning strategy. Most traders who blow out and lose it all either have no proper system in place, or they deviate from their proven winning systems.
Market dips and crashes will continue to happen but that is where a rigid risk control method comes into play. If you are unsure of what you will do when a market moves for or against you, you usually should not be trading.
Here's a helpful post for anybody interested in stocks.
Huge Stock Trading Misconceptions
http://funuselessstuff.blogspot.com/2007/02/huge-stock-trading-misconceptions.html
A great site to learn about investing is
www.investopedia.com
It also has a good trading simulator to practice with fake money.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
25 Feb 07
Hidey Ho Limitup,
A big thumbs up on doing research, and lots of it. This is one area where being a 'news junkie' is of real benefit.
Do you tend to watch and particular managers? And, do you subscribe (not necessarilly literally) to Brinker's market timing principles?
And, have you ever commodities traded? This is one are that I've shied away from. I don't think I have the nerves to dabble in straight commodities trading.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Feb 07
"Limit up" is what made me think you might dabble in commodities. Incidentally, it's also the name of a little known, and good movie from the 80s.
You're right about discipline in investing! I'll look into your educational suggestions. Certainly none could argue that it's smarter to emulate the successful, than to re-create the wheel (as they say).
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@limitup (324)
• United States
25 Feb 07
Thanks for the kudos.
I am not a news junkie in the regular sense of the word as it comes to investing and trading. A very big misconception is that you have to be glued to the tickers and the markets in general to become profitable. That seems a slap in the face to what most Wall Street analysts and hedge fund managers teach, but my personal investment style is not about becoming obsessed.
My time and research goes into my system. The entrys, exits, profit targets, etc. My system has nothing to do with fundamentals at all. It is strictly technical, or based on charts (anyone who says that technical trading is unprofitable has not done the research).
My trading "hero", if you could say I have one, is Ed Seykota. Ed Seykota teaches developing a winning trading system and then developing yourself mentally to stick with your system.
Ed uses a trend following approach. He was literally one of the first traders in the world to implement computers into trading and is one of the most successful traders in the world. He is a mentor to some of the greatest modern traders. The book "Market Wizards" by Jack Schwager is where I heard of Ed.
Check out his site. www.tradingtribe.com . You may be amazed at how much he focuses on psychology in trading (and in success with anything in life).
I am not familiar with Bob Brinker's market timing principles. I will look into his past trading performance and his principles.
Oh, and no. I do not trade commodities right now. That's actually funny because "limit up" is a futures trading term. I just liked it's definition and the way it sounded ha ha.
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@BestTeam (54)
• United States
29 Apr 08
Online REtail? You'd probably get more interest if it were WHOLEsale, that gets everyone better prices. The company I promote gives everyone wholesale and we do not have to sell anything, it's awesome! I've been with them 7 years but they've been around 23 years. I'd love to show you what it is, and what it isn't. It's not MLM, I would never do that. This can take care of retirement, all debt including mortgages, etc. Make it a great day!
@creationhub (3066)
• Malaysia
25 Apr 07
I am forty seven this year going forty eight. I took "early retirement" as my monthly passive income from a particular business enabled me to do so. That's why I can look forward to my dream of being an infopreneur soon.
My online business website should be launched by end of May 2007.