If Jesus was called RABBI, that means he was married, right?
By saralee1
@saralee1 (1983)
United States
February 8, 2007 9:01pm CST
In my quest to find outif Jesus indeed had children, I ran across some interesting information given to me by a mylot informant.
the term RABBI is used, in referring to Jesus Christ, by his disciple!
So, what do you think? did he have to get married before he became a Rabbi?
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
9 Feb 07
Jewish men had a code of life that they were required to live by. Learn a trade, educate, marry and produce offspring. It is known from the Bible that Jesus did 2 of these. The other two are not known. I take the Bible as a historical reference as much as anything else. I've also read the works of the Gnostics and the "Lost Gospels", none of which mention that Jesus had a wife or children. Common sense tells me that if Jesus were married, the Bible in some translation would have stated this, as a record of history. As a result, I do not think that he married. The term, Rabbi, in this instance was most likely used as a synonym for teacher.
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@beautifulceiling (1300)
• United States
9 Feb 07
^^ Sorry, that doesn't look like a reliable source to me for serious theology.
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@saralee1 (1983)
• United States
9 Feb 07
The burden of proof is those who say he was not married.
is that what you are saying? or are you just gargling? Theology is about discussion. you want proof?
it's right there in the bible. Jesus was called Rabbi.
Rabbi's have to be married.
therefore, Jesus was married.
it is a simple philosophical point.
@saralee1 (1983)
• United States
9 Feb 07
"Unmarried men in Jewish custom were considered a curse to Jewish society".
www.grailchurch.org
they had to get married by the age of 16. this was an arranged marriage. there are 18 years of Jesus' life that remain missing.
His parents were careful in obeying the laws of their people.
The burden of proof is with those who do not believe that he was married.
there is clear evidence that he was indeed married, and had children.
@canioo (140)
• Sweden
9 Feb 07
Rabbi means my lord or my teacher in Arabic and Aramic ( I don't know how it is spelled) aramic is the language Jesus talked. and I think it means the same in Hebrew as well.
I belive in that Jesus was not married.
"He is God"
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
10 Feb 07
You know, I am not at all opposed to the idea of Jesus being married. In fact, I would think it the ultimate love story if Jesus himself fell and love and had children. But I just don't see it. As I stated in an earlier post, I see the Bible as a historical record. I can't help but think that if Jesus was married, it would have been recorded. And if he were married to Mary Magdeline, the Gospel of Mary would have stated it or somehow referred to it. THe only possible reference to the relationship between Mary and Jesus could be found in the Gospel of Philip, in which the disciples question why Jesus spends so much time with Mary and kisses her on the mouth. THe answer is something about roaming around in the darkness until the light is shown. It also mentions Mary being Jesus' companion, but a portion of the text is lost. Earlychristianwritings.com is an excellent reference, and one of the only places to find the "Lost Gospels."
Another thing that needs to be remembered is that Jesus and his family spent a number of years living in Egypt. Of course, their Jewish tradition did not die during their time away from their home country, but it could be said that the ability for Joseph to find Hebrew wives for his sons was not available during that time.
THere are a number of possibilities, but unfortunately, a large portion of writings were destroyed by the "church" in an attempt to hide things which they found unappealing or unflattering. The writings of the Gnostics are excellent examples of this. Although some scholars believe that the gnostic writers were infact the beginnings of Christianity. This is of course up to each individual to decide, whether your motives are for faith or historical fact.
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@saralee1 (1983)
• United States
10 Feb 07
This is an excellent response by the way, very thoughtful, and informative! I am quite impressed by your knowledge and openness, and of course I will be checking out that link for further studies into this information. Thank you so much for taking the time to read over this post with your information,
*****!
@saralee1 (1983)
• United States
10 Feb 07
And,as a rabbi, he is not restricted to being abstinent as in some religions, and he is able to marry, and experience all the ups and downs of marriage as well, which are not common in other traditions.
James had even said that not all of who Jesus was, was recorded.
obviously, the 18 years he had missing from the bible may have led to him having a normal life to fulfill his mission of acsention as he did after the cross.(in Christianity)
however, I must ask, why would all of this information change how we believe anyways?
@clownfish (3269)
• United States
13 Feb 07
Hi! I think I can solve the mystery of the missing years of Yeshua's life when nothing is recorded about Him. You agree He was a Rabbi, which specifically in Hebrew means teacher of the Torah, right? Okay, rabbis aren't allowed to begin their ministries until they are 30 years of age. That's why there is nothing recorded, because according to Jewish law, and you agree Yeshua was/is Jewish, He could not begin His ministry until He was 30. That's why there are only 3 years of His ministry recorded, because He was crucified and ascended to Heaven at the age of 33. Until a rabbi is 30, he spends his time being taught the Torah before he begins to teach himself. Does that help? There was no "cover up," there was just nothing to record during those years.
The others are correct. Being a rabbi has nothing to do with being married or not. I don't believe Yeshua was married or had children. It doesn't fit into His purpose for being here.
@saralee1 (1983)
• United States
13 Feb 07
There are certain religious and non religious affiliations who do believe indeed that he was married.
One of the groups I have found, I am unsure of their religious affiliation, but they claim to have the lineage charted back.
a religious group called the Mormons believe that Jesus indeed had children, and three wives.
So, this is not a new idea, these are just two of many out there I have looked into.
I do appreciate your input though, very much so!
I have a pretty good clue now, that Jesus was indeed Jewish, and he did not start the Christian religion. That is a completely secular branch, and I know that does offened some, it really shouldn't, I am merely seeking what I believe to be true, from history.
The only question remains, is that he was teaching at a very young age. so this would mean in fact, that he didn't spend all of his time, working per say.Since he was a frequent visitor to the temple?
thank you for your comment, by the way! I appreciate the time you spent in this discussion.
@beautifulceiling (1300)
• United States
9 Feb 07
Rabbi is just a word that means teacher. It doesn't have anything to do with being married or not.
@jbrooks0127 (2324)
• United States
9 Feb 07
I do indeed hope you get your answer. This question is far from new. Over the centuries mankind has speculated about that. And of course the divinci code brings it out.
I am not Jewish so do not know the answer. I hope you get one.
@monkeywriter (2004)
• United States
13 Feb 07
Well you are wrong. I found a website that states Rabbi simply means great teacher. In fact I believe thats a side note in the bible. It says Rabi means great teacher somewhere in there. It just came to me.
Why would the Bible NOT mention if Jesus had children? You are reading TOO much into this thing to simply come up with a real answer! Rabbi does NOT mean he had children.
Check out this site:
http://www.jesusdecoded.com/questionbox1.php