Hey men back off!

Hello :) this a nice discussion as ever :)) 1) Have you ever been concerned with your appearance enough to consider makeup or plastic surgery? No, in my early 20s I was concerned about my appearances that I started weight training to look more "manly" I don't want to look "soft". 2) How do you feel about other men that dye their hair or wear foundation? I really don't like to judge others, dying hair is ok but i didn't do it with gray hair starting to crawl on my head but i can understand that other men would want to hide it ..foundation is a bit too much I think.. 3) Do you feel men are becoming “less men” or are excepting it’s OK to feel “pretty”? "pretty" is an insult to most me, it can mean gay most of the times, i think most women thinks that men don't have to look especially good and this is a blessing we should keep. lol

This actually amuses me Sunshine. Yeah I'm sure some guys take it a bit far but this is the absolute first I've heard about makeup. I don't like a lot of makeup on my woman, why on earth would I wear any???? Yeah the next thing you know, guys will be waxing their legs and "bikini line". Anyways, on to the details you were asking for: GUYS ONLY- 1) Have you ever been concerned with your appearance enough to consider makeup or plastic surgery?: I have only considered laser procedures in the hope that something would make my defective skin easier to live with. lol 2) How do you feel about other men that dye their hair or wear foundation?: I think this is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Boy I bet this is hard to blend if you have a goattee or moustache. lol 3) Do you feel men are becoming "less men" or are excepting it's OK to feel "pretty"?: I live near Seattle, a major hub of the "metrosexual" movement as it were. I see more and more of it. I laugh at my younger brother on a regular basis because he's guilty of the hair care thing. Don't get me wrong, being clean and clean cut are important, but I have to draw the line at having more hair care products than a woman and starting to wear makeup. It's all marketing folks. I don't know any friends, male of female, that would ever let me get away with wearing makeup. It just wouldn't happen. That, and I have plenty of other things to spend my money on. Things that won't clog my pores worse than they already are and won't leave marks on my clothes and bedding. Yeah, that would be great, an intimate encounter and have mascara run into my eyes, that would really suck. lol Anyways, my two cents worth. It's one thing to take care of oneself, it's another to become rather androgynous. We are presently suffering a gender nullification problem. Women don't take price in their femininity much and guys are expected to be more like women. It's just not right. We're separate sexes for a reason people. HELLO?!?!?

At the risk of sounding sexist, it's a turnoff. But then if you think about it, a woman who seems consumed with makeup and appearances is also a turnoff. I think it's somehow worse for guys though. They just don't have the subtlety to carry it off. Maybe they'll acquire the knack with time but for right now, they should lay low on the makeup. Unless they are rock stars. In that case it is quite acceptable and the more over the top, the better.

1. For the vast majority of men, no, I wouldn't find it appealing to know that he wore makeup. Except for Johnny Depp, who makes heavy eyemake look great. : 2. I don't think they're trading their masculinity for their looks; no more than women trade off their femininity for their looks. I really don't think most men are overduing it. 3. If had a bf/husband, he wouldn't come home with a bag of makeup. It's a sign of vanity. I'd never hook up with a vane guy. That's a major turnoff for me.

The thing you are talking about is termed as metro sexuality and is quiet common these days! As for the questions here are my answers : 1) Yes, i have been concerned with my appearance but it was because i was getting overweight! i undertook and still am on a very rigorous workout regime and things are looking good! the thought of plastic surgery or wearing makeup never entered my mind! 2) Personally i think guys who wear makeup and dye their hair are taking the self grooming tad bit too far!! come on guys wearing makekup and dying hairs is for the girls!! but then again this is my opinion,every body is entitled to their own! 3) i agree with you, men are becoming more obssessed with their looks which was previously a worry for women or girls only!! i am in favor of a liitle self grooming which would make a man look presentable but the things these so called "metro sexuals" do is not that!

why ask the men to back off! for years no women have been screaming for equality so my answer to your question is "you asked for it you got it" and in answer to your questions do I care for men wearing make up emphticaly no!but then neither do I like to seee a woman with a whole lot of it!no one looks good made up like a painted doll!I do like a man who cares about his appearance however I cringe when i see a great looking guy dirty and unshaven how could any woman desire that?

As a woman, I don't even care for WOMEN that cake themselves in makeup and hair gel and such, much less a man. I prefer the natural look, the look God gave us. Though my first husband didn't do the make-up and such, he did lift weights and took pride in his strength. Looking back, he was full of himself. He was conceited and used his muscle to get what he wanted. So I don't even care if a guy is full of muscles, just not so out of shape as to jeopardize his health. That's what's most important is your health, not the way you look. And what comes from the inside... your heart, your soul, your kindness, your humour. You can't get that with shaved chests and tweezed eyebrows and make-up. All natural for me please.

In nature the males of a species are most often the pretty ones or most colourful ... and throughout history men have often been the 'beautiful ones' with brocade jackets, silk stockings, wigs and all sorts of dandy'ish things .. So really it's nothing new .. men are just doing what comes naturally ..

Interesting questions. Since I'm a gal, I'll answer that part of your questionaire! 1. Well, I watch a lot of live theatre, so I'm kind of used to the look of guys with makeup on, lol! I wouldn't say that I love it or prefer it, but it doesn't necessarily bother me. 2. I don't mind about that. I really don't go for intensely "macho" men. To me, that's a real turnoff, lol! 3. Ehh, I wouldn't love it, but I wouldn't kick him out of the house, either. It really wouldn't be my thing, but if he wants to use makeup, it's his decision! *laugh*

Yeah, I do notice as well, these days men are more dandy than women. I have nothing against it. But I'm still a conservative type. I like women with no heavy make ups, and it goes the same with the men (no make up at all). Anything as long as is not over doing, would be ok.

I recall a while ago my girl friends were complaining to me that guys never took care of their appearance. Now that they are, girls are complaining about it? Gosh, I consider myself to be better understanding than most guys but this just confuses me. Anyways, my answers to the three questions: 1) Yeah, I have and I still do. It's something to do with this "pretty boy" thing that's especially popular among the Asians. Personally, I've never tried to be "pretty" but was always told I was. Now that I'm older, I won't mind being slightly more attractive, not necessarily pretty, but.. there's just some things I'm unhappy with. Most people would call me crazy and say, "You already look good enough, you seriously don't need it". Maybe it's a lack of confidence on my part. That's in regards to Plastic Surgery. I'll experiment with eye-liner once in a while if I'm told to really go for the Asian pretty-boy look for a photoshoot. 2) Doesn't bother me at all. I've never actually dyed my hair completely, but I've done blonde/red/brown highlights so far. Looks pretty crazy and it does make me stand out in the crowd, many compliments all around. In regards to foundation, I've only used it to cover up something for a particularly important day only if I need it (blemish in a spot). Most of the time I don't care/don't need to use it. 3) It depends on the individual guy. I'd consider myself one of those guys who'll take the extra couple minutes to look decent. Have I lost any masculinity? I don't think so. I still go to the gym 3 times a week and I still have an innate love for my sports. Besides, I thought one of the goal for really masculine guys was to "get more girls"? I've certainly gotten more since I started taking better care of my appearance. Maybe that's just me though.

Okay, I don't mind the metro look to a degree ( I think David Beckham is hot) but I would draw the line at make-up! 1. A guy who wears makeup would NOT appeal to me. I don't need my man being prettier than me! 2. I think if a man becomes too vain, he could be trading off a little of his masculinity-- I like a guy who doesn't care about stuff like that. 3. If my man came home with a make up bag I'd call the doctor quick because I know something would be seriously wrong with him! He'd never do it--he gets annoyed by my make up!

LOL This is so funny!! You're totally right! Guys are becoming too much like us! My boyfriend HAS to have gel or else he freaks! He HAS to wash his hair with "good" shampoo and he doesn't even have that much hair! I used to pluck his eyebrows for him but he doesn't do that anymore...but I'll be damned if he tried to ever tried to come home with a make-up bag!!

As all of you know that first creation of man in this world then woman so both are necessary for each other and without each other this world is not completed not even a home is completed yet so someone from each gender can work more but each one take part in efforts to establish the world.

1. I am naturally good looking , so I dont need plastic surgery, etc, but yes, we guys definitely want to do things to look good , AND WHY NOT? 2.Elvis Presley was blond and always dyed his hair black and the whole world was crazy about him. 3.How does a man become 'less of a man' just because he has finally realized that he is as important to himself as a woman is or maybe more important. Hey sunshinecup ,take a good look at yourself, you're oozinge a lot of insecurity and low esteem about yourself. Another important observation...have you noticed that Men are no longer the hunters they used to be 'in those good old days', they have become the hunted. Women are doing what men were supposed to and expected to do. No offence, these are truths of a changing world, Luv...

1) I do belive that some can get more attractive with it - just like woman - however I doubt that I could handle dating someone that uses make-up since I do not even use it - except on rare occasions. 2) I do actually =) 3) I would probably start laughing.. that is a very amusing thought, especially since my bf probably is the last person in the world who would do this. My bf is very concerned about his looks and he can stand infront of the mirror for hours, fixing his hair, making sure he shaved perfect and so on - but make up - no way!

I think it's okay if men are vain as long as they can afford it. I'm noticing a lot of men with cleaner and fairer skin lately. I'm sure they go for facials and use expensive products but that's okay. They just want to look good.

1) Do you think a man that wears make up to enhance his appearance is appealing?:: Well, goth guys yeah. They look awesome with eyeliner, other ones..if you can't even tell they're wearing make-up, then yes. But if they do it badly no. 2) Do you feel men are trading off their masculinity for their looks? Definitely not. A girl can dress in a fluffy dress and be masculine..it's a way of carrying yourself. A demeanor, I guess. Masculinity is not limited to how someone looks. 3) If the man in your life came home with his own make up bag, how would you feel? I'd giggle, but it wouldn't make me angry, freaked out, or sad or anything. I'd think it was cool. Anyway..I don't care about them wearing make up or taking care how they dress, the only thing I have to say to that is "It's about time!!" Just as long they don't take obscenely long time to look good if we're late somewhere, I have no complaints.

Girls also didn't used to do half the jobs men do.

Oh your discussion is very interesting and funny! It's okay if men get concerned about their looks. I personally would like a neat and well-groomed man. Who would want to be with a guy who has not shaved, has oily face, does not trim his nose hairs, or does not put deodorant under his arms? Of course we want a man who has neat hair, nice skin and smells nice. But there is a limit to how "prissy" a man can get. If my guy starts putting on foundation on his face on a date with me I'd probably freak out. And if he spends more time in the bathroom than I do, I'd get awfully suspicious. But overall it's nice that they're becoming more aware of proper hygiene and good grooming. :D It's high time they stepped out of their primitive caves. Hehe.