protestors of abortion

I hope no kid saw it, but I'm doubtful since they were right next to a crosswalk and we had to stop for a redlight :(

Ciniful, you're spot on there. I have had an abortion a few years back, and had to deal with protesters then as well. Last weekend I went to a clinic to get implanon put in my arm (birth control device) and I was once again faced with some downright pushy and nasty protesters. When I made it clear that I was at the clinic to insert a birth control device, they were sure I was lying just to get past them. GRRR they have no consideration for others at all and generally they are nasty!!

don't forget AIDS tests, that saves many lives hopefully!

I fought with my body to give me children. I have suffered through 13 miscarriages over the years and still have no child. I find the shock tactics of the Picture Totting Pro-Lifers to be horrific reminders of those losses. I find the people who try to decide for Everyone Else what is right and what is wrong need to mind their own business. Because of the multiple miscarriages I tried to get my tubes tied to prevent any others. Because at the time I was under 35 I was told that I could not Legally have this done because I might Change My Mind!!!!!!!! Dear ghods, who's twisted idea of right and wrong was that???? I was not allowed to alter my body to keep from loosing another child. I miscarried twice more after that - so who's the murderer now?? My husband went in for a vasectomy after the 13th. He wasn't questioned, discouraged or even Warned about changing his mind!! That did it - I became solidly Pro-Choice. I had been rather ambivalent up to that point. No one should be allowed to tell me what I can and can not do with my own body NOR be allowed to tell me I am not capable of making an informed decision for myself.

They are only charged with the two counts if the fetus is at 5 months or after. Prior to 5 months most states here in the US do not recognize the child as being a living being.

The choice of the fetus isn't so much ignored as it is completely disregarded as non existent. How can a non conscious, non thinking, non sentient thing have a choice? And, going hypothetically, even if it DID have the brain capacity to make one, which it doesn't physically at that point, how do YOU know what it would choose? There is an order to things, in everything. When it comes to pregnancy, the choice of the living, conscious, sentient woman has to take precedence over the existence of a non sentient, non viable potential being. To give credence to the fetus over the bodily autonomy of the mother, you are stripping rights from the mother. Do I have the right to make you give me a kidney if I need one? No? Then neither does a fetus have the right to demand the resources of the mother if she doesn't want to provide them. Order to things ... Born Human Fetus Animals Plants There can be no other way.

I am one of those people who does not care what the government, science or anyone else has to say. I believe my baby is a person from the moment I know I am pregnant. I don't care if not a single thing is going on in their little body. They are my baby & that is how I see it. I would be devastated if I had a miscarriage at any point. It all depends on when you believe the "fetus" becomes human. I used to talk to all of my babies, sing to them & was always touching my belly.

SO then your stand is to kill babies that are wanted? Whether someone agress with abortion or not I think it is a bit harsh to say their babies should be killed.

Actually, aborted babies in some cases are photographed.

You missed the point. If a woman wants to abort, and has that choice taken away from her, then it is the same as forcing a woman to abort who WANTS to keep their child. No, she's not wishing it on anyone, she's making an analogy. The point being, I doubt they'd feel all too wonderful knowing they had no choice in the workings of their own body.

or even better, offer to help with the legalities of adoption, the costs of prenatal care, and counseling so a mother is more willing to carry that baby to term and give it up for adoption!

That I do agree with.. Planned Parent Hood isn't about abortions. They do other things. I went with them when I had my first daughter.

my son is only 18 months old, I doubt he'll realize that babies are being aborted there by that sign, he'd just see a disguisting gory sign. He doesn't even know how to say "baby"! As far as abortions happening there, I heard that they just refer them to go to a larger city, we're in a pretty small town here but growing.

"You claim he children seeing them are traumatised but cite no evidence " my kids and their reaction to that sort of crap is evidence enough for me...

You're missing the point. The pro-life standpoint is to save babies, yet they are traumatizing kids, little more than babies, with their propaganda. Those pictures aren't of aborted fetii, they are most often stillborn babies, because they know damn well that a picture of a glob of cells isn't going to wring much sympathy. Do they have any sympathy for the mothers of stillborns who see those pictures and mourn? Do they care about the kids they are traumatizing with their propaganda? No. But they call themselves pro life? Life?!? And whether or not the 'killing' of a fetus is disgusting is purely subjective to morals, which differ person to person. I don't think it's any more disgusting than removing a tumor. If you had a growth that was sapping your resources that you didn't consent to being there, you'd have it removed and wouldn't consider it disgusting. Same thing for a pregnant woman who does not want to be pregnant. It's purely subjective.

I merely asked a question and made no claims. You however have made a number of unsupported claims. You claim that the pics are of still born babies but cite no evidence You claim he children seeing them are traumatised but cite no evidence You claim that morals are merely subjective but cite no evidence You second claim is false, morals are, at the very least, intra-subjective. all the best urban