List of unusual deaths (caution: may be disturbing to sensitive people)
By SplitZip
@SplitZip (1488)
Portugal
February 15, 2007 9:22am CST
I was checking out this Wikipedia article about unusual deaths (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths ) and came across some pretty disturbing ones:
* In 1981, Renée Hartevelt, a dutch studen in Paris, was murdered and eaten by a japanese man called Issei Sagawa. Sawaga was deported to Japan and admitted to a mental institution, but because the sentence didn't mention how long he was to stay committed, he just walked out after 15 months and remained free as a bird ever since, writing books and appearing on TV shows and films!
article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa
* In 2001 a man called Armin Meiwes posted an online ad asking for someone willing to be butchered. He found a willing victim, they met, severed the victim's p*nis and tried to eat it together, then Meiwes stabbed the man to death, ate about 20 Kg of his flesh and stored the rest for later. The whole affair was videotaped (2 whole hours of footage) and Meiwes was only caught because he posted a new ad looking for new victims! I had heard about this case, but I had no idea the details were so gruesome! He's imprisoned but has given interviews and had popular songs written about him.
article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes
* In 2003 a pizza delivery man called Brian Wells robbed a bank, he had a bomb strapped to his neck and when he was aprehended by the police he claimed he was forced to rob the bank by the maker of the bomb. The bomb went off and he was killed. Nobody knows for sure what the hell this was all about and the case is unsolved. Several tv shows and films have taken cues from the incident as plot inspiration.
article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wells
These are some of the most disturbing ones. What do you think of these? It's a bit shocking that the criminals sometimes end up getting recognition, fame and profit from their horrendous crimes. Also, what's with these people wanting to be murdered and eaten? It's a behavior that's completely removed from everything we take for granted, as far as self-preservation goes. It's a fascinating, if disturbing topic, don't you think?
I suggest you read the article with the list of unsual deaths, some of them are just odd and are perfect examples of "how NOT to die"! Want to read one more? I'll just quote it from the article, this time:
"1911: Jack Daniel, founder of the Tennessee whiskey distillery, died of blood poisoning six years after receiving a toe injury when he kicked his safe in anger at being unable to remember its combination code."
article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Daniel
... What the hell??
2 responses
@96vidalias (344)
• United States
17 Feb 07
If you like those, I'm sure you must love the Darwin Awards given every year to people who improved the gene pool by removing themselves from it in spectacularly stupid ways. They usually give the last words as, "Hey-watch this."
I had read about the Meiwes case in Germany. They really had trouble prosecuting him because the victim was so willing to be killed and eaten.
I don't think criminals should be given recognition for their crimes, but I don't see how it could be prevented at this time. At the grave of Jesse James, who was himself famous for his crimes, it says he was murdered by a coward whose name is not worthy to be mentioned there.
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@SplitZip (1488)
• Portugal
17 Feb 07
I do know about/like the Darwin Awards. I can picture myself getting one at some point, given that I'm so accident prone :(
I simply don't understand how someone can desire to be "butchered" and eaten. Worse, the man wanted to eat himself, but failed because his p*nis was "too chewy"(?!). This story is just macabre and crazy and in some ways, stupid! What the hell was wrong with those people? It's difficult to understand this aberrant behavior, to the point where it becomes fascinating. What drives someone to these extremes? Does science have an answer to this one?
What annoys me about this sort of thing is that the perpetrator is often glorified and the victims (and their suffering) forgotten. Another nail on the coffin of Justice!
Who shot Jesse James anyway? I'm not knowledgeable about the "Wild West".
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@96vidalias (344)
• United States
17 Feb 07
In the movie version it was John Carradine. Seriously, he was another bank robber who shot him for the reward money.
That was a really romaniticized story of his life, with Jesse James being played by my all time favorite actor, Tyrone Power. His brother was played by Henry Fonda. And an interesting bit of trivia, in the film Witness For the Prosecution, Power's character is in a theatre watching a western and it is a scene from his Jesse James. He says, "I saw this one." too funny.
I really hate that criminals are inspired to kill in order to steal a bit of fame, but it does work. On the only positive way of looking at it, it could be that we have evolved to the point of not seeing anyone as all good or bad. We may be fascinated by horrible crimes because we can see the potential for them in ourselves.
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@96vidalias (344)
• United States
25 Feb 07
Strange days indeed, as John Lennon said in the song.(Nobody told me there'd be days like these) I was surprised to see myself quoted without credit in this same thread, but I reported it and now it is gone. Can't people even babble on aimlessly without copying?
But we still have the poster who didn't even bother to remove the word 'preface' from the post.
@leotheking (154)
• Pakistan
21 Feb 07
Preface
I am a researcher and therapist with a doctorate (Ph.D.) in clinical psychology. I am a licensed clinical psychologist, and for 15 years I have been a therapist to men and women abused in childhood, providing individual and group treatment. I have studied the characteristics of traumatic memories and the effects of psychological trauma on biological systems involved in emotion regulation. My collaborators include Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, a leader in the psychological trauma field at The Trauma Center and Boston University. I am currently Instructor at the Behavioral Psychopharmacology Research Laboratory at the Neuroimaging Center of McLean Hospital and Harvard Medical School. In this position I am focusing studies of substance abuse in people with histories of child abuse and PTSD. The contents of this page reflect my level of experience and expertise, as well as opinions I have formed over the years.
Research evidence showing that it is NOT RARE for people who were sexually abused in childhood to experience amnesia and delayed recall for the abuse. This body of work shows that claims to the contrary are contradicted by scientific evidence.
Research and theoretical works by qualified specialists who increasingly agree that: a) traumatic and nontraumatic memories have some different characteristics; b) the construct of "dissociation" best explains many traumatic memories, e.g., those involving fragmentary sensations and feelings which are disconnected from verbal narratives, and associated with amnesia and delayed recall. These works show that making claims about traumatic memory based on generalizations from research on nontraumatic memory, and focusing on the constructs of "repression" and "repressed memory," can often be confusing distractions and misleading tactics.
To accomplish these two goals, this page does not need to be comprehensive, nor up-to-date on the latest research - though I will occassionally make additions, and am always open to suggestions.
Before proceeding, I want to acknowledge some very important issues that this page, with its limited goals related to recovered memories and dissociation, does not address, except in passing. Please read every item and the entire list very carefully.
Every instance of recall is a process of reconstruction, and therefore involves some degree of distortion.
This process of reconstruction is never random, and is always influenced by factors internal and external to the person attempting accurate recall.
There is strong evidence that people can sincerely believe they have recovered a memory or memories of abuse by a particular person, but actually be mistaken.
There is strong evidence that such memories have led to accusations about particular events that never happened and accusations of people who never committed such acts.
In some cases mistaken memories and accusations have caused extraordinary pain and damage to individuals and families.
One of the preventable causes of these tragedies is incompetence by therapists, who sometimes contribute to the creation of false memories and/or believe them without good reason.
Currently, there are no reliable statistics on the occurences listed as numbers 3 through 6 above. Along these lines, see two articles by Dr. Kenneth Pope: "Questioning Claims About the False Memory Syndrome Epidemic," and "Science as Careful Questioning: Are Claims of a False Memory Syndrome Epidemic Based on Empirical Evidence?" (For more information about these articles and online ordering of copies, follow the link to Pope's site in the "Additional Resources" section of this page.)
Most of these issues are addressed at the Web site of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation. I do not endorse that organization, their Web site, nor their treatment of these issues, which is clearly extreme in many ways. But I do encourage you to consider all positions, to contrast what you learn here with the materials presented at the FMSF site, and to come to your own conclusions.
Finally, I strongly encourage you to seek out and read some of the scholarly works cited below. These will help you to make your own judgements rather than relying on what you hear or read in the popular media, or what is available on the Internet – including this page. It is my aim and hope, however, that reading this page will give you powerful knowledge and tools for thinking more critically about whatever else you hear and read on this topic.