Can Non-Divorce Work?

@Terri_R (302)
United States
February 17, 2007 8:08pm CST
Divorce. It has touched more families than we care to think about. There was a time when a married couple stayed married whether they were happy or not. Divorce was taboo. In more recent years divorce has skyrocketed as married couples decided that personal happiness was more important than what others thought. In society today it is becoming a new trend to avoid divorce altogether and settle for a non-divorce. After considering the expense of an attoney, the cost of setting up two separate households and maintianing current health benefits many married couples today choose to simply alter their relationship from that of man and wife to roommates. As I thought about this arrangement questions began to flood my mind. How do these couples decide who pays what expenses? Who pays child support if there are children involved? How can this be explained to children? What happens when the first one decides to start dating or decides to take a lover? Have these questions crossed anyone else's mind? If so, what do you think of this new non-divorce? Are you or someone you know in this situation? I need some more perspective on this topic.
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• India
18 Feb 07
yes non divorce can also work.they have there own right to work nd earn there own money to leave comfortably.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
3 Oct 07
But don't you think it would be difficult to live seperately, together?
• Canada
18 Feb 07
It can work if both agree to do what is best for the kids and in the old days divorce was taboo but couples stayed together adn tried to work out what was wrong in the relationship rather than just saying they are thru and taking the easy way out if they do l not like something or they or they are not gettin there way. This way would work becasue the child would be there and so woudl the spouse who has to pay and they woudl see where the money was goin not wondering if it was beign spent on the child. The child will nto really kow the difference jsu tthat everyone has there own room amd as far as datin goes so long as you choose to live in same house then you should be workin towards resovling the issue between the two of them
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I'm not sure divorce can be described as easy but it is certainly the quickest way out of a relationship.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
But, if the issues could be resolved, would divorce or non-divorce even be a consideration? Man, there are so many variables to this situation.
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• Canada
23 Feb 07
If they could be resolved then you would stay married right now divorce is the easy way out i woudl of done anything to save mine but i could not she had made the simple adn easiest choice and left.
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• United States
19 Feb 07
I have been married and divorced. And i don't see myself being roommates with my exhusband. things just wouldn't work out the way i would have planned. We would both being dating other people, and it just wouldn't work, while we lived in the same house.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
3 Oct 07
My ex and I could barely live together when we were together. There is no way we could do it while trying to be "seperate".
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
18 Feb 07
I've been divorced. We lived separately for over two years before we could afford to finalize. I think if we had chosen this no-divorce situation you're talking about, we probably would have reconciled. For that reason I would be supportive of this situation. Right now I'm in a similar situation in a way. I've been with the same man for almost 6 years. We aren't married, don't live together but we have children together. I guess it's a non-marriage relationship. It isn't very stable and at times it feels more like the non-divorce situation. Since I'm a stay at home mom, he pays all expenses (not very well but that's another story. He has two of the children with him most of the time while I only have the youngest so we don't deal with child support (obviously this would have to change if I had them all of the time) Our children are too young to even know any different and since this is the way it has been since before they were born they think it's normal. When they get older we'll have to figure out how to explain. Us dating others has come up from time to time. So far it hasn't happened but we've agreed that it could. I'm not interested but I'm pretty sure he is. I'm normally a jealous person but this doesn't bother me because he is and will be open about it. My overall opinion on this and various other "alternative" relationships is that each couple must find what does or doesn't work for them. I'm happy in a "non-marriage" with my current partner and wish I could have had a "non-divorce" with my ex.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
18 Feb 07
You are in a situation that is difficult and will bring questions from your children as they get older, I'm sure. Is there a reason that you never married the father of your children? As far as your divorce, I, as well as many divorced people that I know can look back at a previous marriage and see where things done differently could have possibly changed the outcome. I guess that's why they say hind site is 20/20.
@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
18 Feb 07
I'm sure when they're older they will ask why Mommy and Daddy are together but don't live together. I'll just be honest and give them the various reasons. We never got married for several reasons. He's scared of the commitment still and I don't know why. He doesn't want to "choose" me over his oldest son which he would need to do unfortunately (not because I would make him because of our living arrangement), we have found that we really aren't compatible "house mates", and we have different priorities. There are plenty of other reasons as well but that covers a few of the basics. It isn't the ideal situation and if I'm being honest I'd rather either have the commitment or end it but he doesn't see it that way so...here I am. As for hindsight...probably it is a common thought of divorced couples. I can't say whether or not it would have worked in the end but I think the idea of non-divorce as a first step is healthier than complete separation in many cases.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
My ex and I could have never had a non-divorce. He would have never given us a chance to step back and examine our strengths and weaknesses. We were separated for 2 years, maybe longer, and tried on several occasions to date. It always ended the same. I can't even say that we really parted friends, but we are coordial on those rare occasions when we are together.
• India
18 Feb 07
Divorce is a bad practice i think.Divorce should be taken out of society and one should always find a solution other than divorce.Marriage is a great relation which should not be broken by a divorce.If marriage brings a light to the life then divorce is like a poison.One should always understand his parter well.But if the things goes worst than it should be discussed with the elders but should not be taken to the court.
@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
An interesting viewpoint. Your referrence to "elders" indicates to me that you may be from another country, an I correct? I appreciate you sharing with us and am interested in learning of different cultures and beliefs.
@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Thank you for sharing a part of you with us. So many are unable to escape their abusers and pay for it with their lives. Divorce is a common thing in the United States but I just received a response from the Phillipines, where divorce is not legal. I wonder how women of abuse survive in that country.
• United States
19 Feb 07
I tried the "Elder" thing with my first marriage - went to the minister when my abusive first husband beat me when he was in a bad mood. No Help There! The beatings continued until I left - did matter if I did what he said or not - there was always 'something' not 'right' and the beatings would come. Divorce saved my life.
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@tatzkie (644)
• Philippines
19 Feb 07
This is a very intriguing topic. I am from the philippines, the only roman catholic country in south east asia. In this more conservative set-up divorce is not allowed by law and by the church. But with the fast encroachment of western liberal ideas, there is a rising demand to legalize divorce. But general populace is not really that resolve yet. So along this line, co-habitation are on the rise. Couples without marriage rites live together just like any other families. Some can last 2-5 years without children, but a fruit of that relationship comes in inevitably. Just like non-divorce type of relationship, questions of division of task and budget comes to play. Over-here, there is a 50-50 split in the general fund that will be use to pay the bills like electricity,water and rent. And for each luxury expenses, is every individual's responsibility. But i would not discount that most often the one with bigger income tends to have more contribution to the budget. And the one handling the budget is the one who has more time at home. Now for non-divorce with open relationship. I think it is a must that you dont bring any new lover in your common abode. If you like to make out do it somewhere else. Moreover, dont use the common fund for that purpose. About children, here the common practice is; children are left to the parents of the couple, most often the mother side. This is not really a very good thing for the kids. But this is a more practical move especially for young couples. But as for the smooth sailing non-divorce and cohabitation relationship, the 50 -50 general fund is applied. AS far explanation is concern, the couple instill to the kids how much mommy and daddy love them. Indeed this is a hard process but in the long run, with continuous reminder and guidance from the parents, the kids will understand as they grow up. As a must, the kids should be provided with almost everything just like any other kids. Finally, marriage comes in different forms with different motivations and different functions across society. But ultimately, this is how families are form as basic units of society. The perpetuation of non-divorce and cohabitation should be checked but not discriminated. Agencies of society, like government and church and the media should be sensitive with these trends. It should not be treated as if its a disease, that create stigmatization. Instead view it as a challenge to the established norms and practices and laws of its significance to the fast changing times.
@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
You're righ, cohabitation and non-divorce can be similiar by nature. Thank you for taking the time to look at this subject and think it through. Did you say that divorce is illegal in your country?
@katyzzz (2897)
• Australia
18 Feb 07
All relationships have good and bad times. If the marriage is not too bad issues can be resolved, but if things are very bad you are better off parting. Make sure, if you're female to keep the kids with you, don't make too many sacrifices for them, they'll love you more for being with them than any forfeited opportunities. These things are tough.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Yes, these are tough things. Custody of children is definitely an issue when parting and normally one of the more vicious parts of divorce. Thanks for sharing with us.
• India
18 Feb 07
Ofcourse yes anyone of you sacrifice if you want to be together just do it and stay together
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
I'm not sure that non-divorce is about wanting to be together, but rather not wanting the expense of being apart. But, I do agree that if two people want to remain together they should be willing to sacrifice.
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
19 Feb 07
I have heard of this type of non-divorce, but I just can't see how it would work. It might make more practical sense, especially in terms of expenses, and may even be better for the children. But the latter may only work, if the break up is completely harmonious. There could be no hint of another partner. There could be no "baggage", and negative issues. I just don't see too many non - divorces working like this. I know of one man, who was seperated from his wife. He lived in a caravan out the back, but only after 8pm. Before that time he was present in the house, so the children would think their parents were together. This man wanted to meet other women, to have a relationship. It was ridiculous. What woman was going to enter into a relationship with a man in these circumstances. It was downright weird. As for Child Support, I guess the authorities would have to work that one out.
@Terri_R (302)
• United States
3 Oct 07
I have seen one or two relationships kind of like what you are describing. Unfortunately, none ended up the way everyone thought they would. In both instances, someone ended up getting hurt.
• United States
18 Feb 07
I honestly don't think this non-divorce would work since it only delays the obvious. I know it wouldn't work in my situation (I have been divorced from an abuser for 7 years now). I would not be alive to write this post. I have some good friends that have divorced, but continue to live together. Now it's to the point of where the house has to be sold, property divided, etc. I guess it worked fine for them in the beginning, but now they have to deal with all the ugly stuff years later. I think it's best to do the right thing in the beginning and just get it all over with and on with your life. It's not easy to do that, but I think it's the best way. I know I'm glad I did!! :)
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
I'm glad you did too. I know it's not easy to break away from an abuser so I admire your courage and strength. Separation, divorce, non-divorce, it all comes back to the ugly stuff unless there is reconciliation. Thank you for sharing this with us.
@APMorison (424)
• United States
19 Feb 07
I can see it working for limited numbers. People who just come to realize that they are not where they need to be being together and there has been no lying and cheating and ugliness between them before they decide its time to part. For some who are wondering if they just need some time to rediscover each other I would definitely suggest it, especially if there are children.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
3 Oct 07
Absolutely! I would hope couples would make an effort to rectify things before jumping to divorce.
• China
18 Feb 07
In his practice, he has seen military couples (from a nearby naval base) staying together so both spouses can still be covered under the ... Some spouses, of course, practice the non-divorce in the eternal hope that it will work out. ...
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
18 Feb 07
I'm sorry, who and what practice are you referring to? And yes, those are two reasons that some choose non-divorce. Thanks for your response.
• India
18 Feb 07
The biggest problem these days is your ego. If you could kill your ego, most of the problems will be dissolved. Stop expecting anything from each other. Start giving only. Try to find new dimensions of love, because "love has endless dimensions, each dimension is beyond the comprehension, lets try to find always new dimensions of love for the sake of our children and for each other. Then you will realise that in any kind of situation you are the happiest person on the universe.
@Terri_R (302)
• United States
19 Feb 07
When people first fall in love and marry they do feel as if they are the happiest people in the universe. Unfortunately, love does have it's ups and downs and takes two people investing in a relationship to remain strong.
• United States
18 Feb 07
The only way that staying together can work is if the parents are able to maintain a sense of normalcy......If your unhappy enough to be thinking about divorce then you are obviously unhappy enough that the children will notice so i guess what im saying is that i dont see it working by its very definition.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
18 Feb 07
That is pretty much the way I see this as well. If you're unhappy enough to consider divorce, how can you choose to continue to live together? Is this a choice for unhappiness?
@junior07 (972)
• India
18 Feb 07
i think this type of relationship affect the mind of ur children,they didn't enjoy there childhood and become mature very early from their age.
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@Terri_R (302)
• United States
18 Feb 07
Why would this affect the mind of the children involved?
@vijayec (19)
• India
18 Feb 07
ya accoding to my opinion divorse can work.
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• United States
18 Feb 07
I would think this would only really work if both people in the marriage could let go, and I am betting that is not very common. I wonder if some trying this aren't really wanting to do this so much as hoping their spouse will change their mind.
@DeathGods (100)
• Israel
18 Feb 07
i dont fhink that way about it.......
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@DeathGods (100)
• Israel
18 Feb 07
i am like that too man. Life keep going 3
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