Mad at associated content!!

@KrazyK8 (190)
Canada
February 18, 2007 2:27pm CST
I just discovered that unless you are an americian citizen you can not get paid for the articles you write. Even though they pay you through pay pal. This makes no sense to me and now I am worried that other sites are like that as well and that i don't even know it yet! Does anyone know of anyother sites where a canadian can make herself some money? I know about helium.com but perhaps there are other places!
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
18 Feb 07
hmmmm, it's my understanding people are getting paid from many countries..
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@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
18 Feb 07
that is what i thought as well but in the forum AC states that only US citizens can get paid for content so now I am confused!!
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@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
18 Feb 07
here is what it says: "at this time AC only pays US residents. Non residents may post free of charge and AC will host your online portfolio which may help you land a paying job at sometime in the future." It also says, "AC's rules and guidelines state that you must be a US resident AND have a pay pal account to be paid. Just because you have a pay pal account does not mean you will be paid."
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@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
18 Feb 07
I am really upset i just reviewed there terms and it is true they do not pay non US residents!!
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@Wanderlaugh (1622)
• Australia
19 Feb 07
You got exactly the same response I got. I'm an Aussie, and I'm still trying to figure out how AC could put that in print and take themselves seriously. How are they going to become a significant site based on the US domestic market, which is never anything less than tough? I know PayPal doesn't have a problem with international transactions. Nor does anyone else. If AC has difficulties with just basic business, how good are they likely to be? Paying sites are few, and most are duds. Helium is at least respectable, and they do have an international profile. Writing on the lower rated sites might be an own goal, KrazyK8. If you write on a well known site, you do have a profile. Writing on Somebodyorother.com doesn't help, because nobody knows their range. There's a site called Common Ties, recommended to me by a friend on myLot. Problem for me is they pay only by cheque. My faith in snail mail from the States is minimal, but being a Canadian it might be easier for you.
• Australia
19 Feb 07
Interesting site. Checked out the FAQ and the Tutorial. Want to do a post here if it works out OK? There would be a lot of interested people. I'm still thinking about rights; I don't (ever) do resell rights, so I'll have to think about it.
@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
I found constant content and they seem to pay everyone... www.constant-content.com
@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
18 Feb 07
Associated Content doesn't pay outside the US for tax reasons, basically. It's a real pain to handle the tax info and procedures needed for it, and so they stick with US only. A lot of paper magazines do the same thing, actually, as well as small print publishing houses. It has nothing to do with Paypal, really, and it's nothing new in the world of writing. I'd look for a Canadian based freelance site.
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@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
thank you
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@re08dz (1941)
• Australia
18 Feb 07
I can't help you with Associated Content sorry but if you like writing articles etc have you thought about starting your own website or blog and putting those articles there? - you can then add a variety of income streams depending on your article content.
@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
That is a good thought I do have a blogsite, www.k8skrazythoughts.blogspot.com but i should look into something else. thank you!
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• United States
19 Feb 07
K8, You should keep your Blogger site; it is pretty nice. What you will need is just exposure by pointing to your URL. Like this: http://www.dragonmojo.com. But of course, I see you have already done so. It is a matter of finding the right avenues to point to your URL, and if I run across any I'll be sure to let you know.
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• United States
18 Feb 07
I have to agree with you that it does not make sense if payment is conducted via PayPal. I believe the only way AC is able to distinguish the prospective payee's residence is either through PayPal, or if you had to divulge this information when signing up with AC (I have not signed up yet, if I consider to do so). Since you are a writer looking to get published, I'm sure there are many places on the Internet that may provide you the opportunity. I'm sorry I am not aware of any right now.
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• United States
19 Feb 07
I think that is probably correct about the tax laws. Here if you are an independent contractor (such as a freelance writer) and make a certain amount of money freelancing, you can be taxed on it. One year, much to my surprise, I ended up paying a lot more taxes because I had taken on a freelance book project (where I made about $850) and this put my taxes into another category where I had to pay more. Because they cannot control how much you will write or earn from them, they probably feel for their own company, it's easier not to deal with internationals, even if it's just across the border.
@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
18 Feb 07
that is ok and thank you. They say that they cannot pay outside of the US is because of Tax Laws. You have to provide a valid US address and apparently a social security number or something i would assume.
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@Denmarkguy (1845)
• United States
18 Feb 07
Sites that don't want to pay people outside the US are ultimately just "covering" the fact they they think it's too much of a pain in the a$$ to file the tax forms associated with making international payments. There's no actual "can't" involved, just a fair bit of work. You'd be subject to "backup withholding for non-citizens" (which only applies if you got paid more than US$ 600.00 per year, as I recall), which means they keep 30% of your pay and report it to the US tax authorities, which you can then only get back by filing forms with the US txa people showing that you paid taxes on that income in Canada... or something like that. Companies with a lot of payees who'll make from $600 to maybe a few thousand often opt out, because of the massive amount of paperwork.
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@KrazyK8 (190)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
good to know thank you
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@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
19 Feb 07
I think constant content works for Canadians. And they'll send you emails when people request articles. It's a bit more work, since you kind of have to sell yourself, but I've heard of people making money. The associated content thing is a bummer, I was really disappointed too. It's probably something to do with taxes.
@Randync (544)
• United States
19 Feb 07
I supposed if people had paypal already they could try faking being American. The big problem would be at tax time when AC sends out the tax info to your address.
@Randync (544)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Http://www.suite101.com pays non Americans I think. But they don't pay nearly as good as AC, at least not in the short haul. I have done 3 articles and have earned less than a dime lol. I would have made about $25 on the 3 with AC. Plus with Suite you have to sign a contract and do 10 articles in 3 months.
• United States
19 Feb 07
Maybe it has to do with converted the money to Canadian amounts. They probably don't want to deal with the extra labor and money involved in paying a different system. I am a member of helium and it's a waste of time. I feel like I have to keep writing and writing just to make a buck at that site. I don't like how members work only through page views. It's just silly.
19 Feb 07
Why not try Constant Content who pay anyone, whether you're in the US or not. www.constant-content.com/