Communism in the United States
By Methodless
@Methodless (882)
Canada
February 20, 2007 12:07pm CST
Not that I am a Communist, but I was thinking about this.
Do you think it would be a good idea to have a lighter version of a Communist government in the United States for 4-8 years? Just to fix things causing larger gaps between the rich and the poor.
e.g. Right now, the average North American CEO makes 125 times his average worker, in Europe, it's only 8 times. Meanwhile there are cities in the US where poverty is a huge problem while the companies they used to work for are making a couple of extra bucks.
Are you for or against this notion?
What affect do you think it would have?
Thanks in advance for your responses.
4 responses
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
22 Feb 07
Yeah, but poverty in the US is a king in much of the rest of the world. Our standards of living are so high that the poor are way better off than poor in other countries.
No I don't think the US should use any communism, for one, the American people hate paying more taxes or government interference with economy. Its always been that way. It would be unfair to take money from rich people just to give the poor.
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
22 Feb 07
How is there not equal access to education? Sounds like you are more against the rising costs of college tuition
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@Methodless (882)
• Canada
22 Feb 07
Well yes, that is how access is unequal.
Here in Canada, tuition is around $5000 a year, and students can get loans interest-free for up to $10000 a year.
Also, education was just an example - the biggest example, but just an example. I think there are lots of things the US can do with good intent to eliminate what I think is a very embarassing problem.
You are correct that poverty standards are higher in the United States, but the gap seems to increase, while the US is supposed to be the richest country in the world.
Also, I think handouts from rich to poor are not the way to go, things that will stimulate the economy should be done to help both, rather than a donation by the rich, I would try to see it as an investment.
@Methodless (882)
• Canada
22 Feb 07
That is a very good point, but do you think that view is shared by the majority of US Citizens? I think maybe the voting majority, maybe, but I think for a short period of time, it could help people catch up.
I don't mean moving money around, I mean equal access to education and such.
How do you think poverty in the US can be solved?
@multisubj (451)
• India
11 Mar 07
Communism, particularly the principle of "Dictatorship of Proletariat (Working Class)" was misunderstood and misinterpreted, even during the life time of Lenin. The Dictatorship of Proletariat does not mean one party rule. Any number of political parties can coexist. Russia, China, East Europe, Cuba and Vietnam wherever it was tried, ended up in a dictatorship of one party rule. Reason was hunger for power and the people were not well versed with what Communism or Marxism really intended or meant.
The Dictatorship of Proletariat suggests that working class should rule. It implies that there can be any number of political parties in which working class become members. Thus the objects of "Democracy" and "Freedom of individual" and "Freedom of Expression" are not violated.
Those who were accustomed to indolent-lazy lives enjoying pelf and wealth inherited from some dirty rich ancestor cannot appreciate the idea of a country without Right of Property. Hence the shouts that liberty is jeopardized in Marxism.
I consider that inheritence denies equal opportunities to citizens because the Rich child starts the race with an advantage.
What democracy we have in US today? A deceptive democracy. The Campaign for Presidency or Congress or Senate requires millions mobilised from the Corporates who demand their pound of flesh at the right time.
I feel that US working class should go for Marxism and lead the world in right way of true democracy.
@Methodless (882)
• Canada
11 Mar 07
Very well said, however, I think society may be too right wing to accept this as a potential solution and they will view it as too extreme.
I however think that if run well, it could be better than the system in place now.
@DaniloBizo (17)
• Brazil
21 Feb 07
I am against the communism
in most of the countries in that it tried to adopt this system, everybody was economically the same
even so everybody poor
@Methodless (882)
• Canada
21 Feb 07
Do you think this is because the system itself is flawed or do you think it has never yet been run properly? I'm inclined to believe it's more of the latter.
Although I do think that it's probably an expensive system to run in some aspects.
@green_lightning (130)
• United States
21 Feb 07
nice topic, i am also a communist, but real communism, not socialism but huge difference, i mean communism is when there is no government and everyone is treated the same while socialism is where the government controls all (fascist state) but i like the idea b/c that is how my ancestors lived for thousands of years in harmony until the invaders came in and put in "democracy" (but well all know its now b/c not everyone has a say b/c true democracy is communism) and from that came poverty to this land, famine, and many other things...
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@multisubj (451)
• India
11 Mar 07
Fascism is slightly different from the "Government controlling everything". I suggest that we can use the term "State Capitalism" to mean where Govt. runs State Enterprises. In our State (Andhra Pradesh, India), we have State run buses. There are also private buses. The State Road Transport Corporation built magnificent clean Bus Stations. We feel proud to enter the Station and travel. The private buses stop and take passengers on streets.
Our experience with State Enterprise: Commonman is happy. Rich people feel suffocated because they have to move with common people.