Should LBW given out by third umpire?
By alienstar
@alienstar (5142)
India
February 21, 2007 4:59am CST
Technology is increasing very fast and lots of decisions in cricket matches are also decided by third unpire by using the technology provided and do you think that LBW decisiosn also should be taken by third unpire to avoid further controversies that arise by judging LBW wrongly by umpires on the ground?
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@hiveenu (521)
• India
21 Feb 07
Hi, interesting question. We must basically understand that there's a lot of difference between the camera angle view (relative and inaccurate) and umpire's view (accurate)regarding an LBW decision. It is not possible for third umpire to give an accurate LBW decision unless the camera is fixed on the hat of the standing umpire which is cumbersome and impossible. So, I feel that for LBW decision, umpire should play the major role.
Having said that, if the standing umpire is in doubt as to whether there's a bat and pad situation, he must give his verdict after consulting the third umpire. Similarly, if a standing umpire erroneously rule a batsman out LBW but if the third umpire sees an edge from the bat, he should promptly communicate with the standing umpire to reverse his decision, which can be done before the player given out reaches the pavilion. I think that much can be done for minimising LBW errors.
But the bottom line is that if players refrain from exaggerated and aggressive overappealing alone, the umpires should be able to arrive at a correct decision without any tension or apprehension. On most of the occassions nowadays, knowing well the batsman has nicked, many bowlers and keepers appeal. To minimise this, may be 2 or 4 runs may be awarded to the batting team for every unsuccessful LBW appeal. It may minimise aggressive appealing, allowing the umpires to arrive at a correct decision on most of the occassions.
In conclusion, the above changes may make cricket more accurate but it will lose its humane appeal as it is a game with glorious uncertainities. Thanks.
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@alienstar (5142)
• India
23 Feb 07
Yes, we can understand that theer is a difference between camera angles but i think third umpires will be able to judge that right as they also know cricket isn't it?and they also might connsider many points which might have to be corrected before it gets implemented right?
Anyway's, thanks for responding
@hiveenu (521)
• India
23 Feb 07
Yes, I agree with you. You know what? If LBW decisions are given by third umpires, each test match will be over within 3 days and most of the outs will be through LBWs. Now itself, we can see that the ball goes to hit one of the stumps in LBW appeals that are turned down in favour of the batsman. This is what I meant by saying that cricket will lose its humane appeal as it is a funny game with glorious uncertainties. On the hind sight, third umpire decisions on LBWs can also result in positive interesting cricket, with players batting with their bat instead of their pads, especially against spinners. Thanks.
@nitin_hec (1096)
• India
21 Feb 07
I think some decision could be given by third umpire but field umpire should consult third umpire when they have some doubt otherwise it can lead to Delay of match.
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@alienstar (5142)
• India
23 Feb 07
Yes, definitely field umpires should consult third umpire only for doubts a salso it can save some time ratther tahn consulting third umpires for for all decisions isn't it? what do you say ? maybe in coming day's everything will be used and third might have more say than field umpires..who know's isn't it?
Anyway's, thanks for responding
@bck_1409 (662)
• India
21 Feb 07
I think ICC already tried, to give LBW decisions for the 3rd umipre and very first man to be dissmissed is shiob malik of pakistan and the bowler was chaminda vaas, its a good invetion but it has a draw back too, for each appeal you made it takes much more time for the 3rd umpire to give decisiion so waste of time will be there, in cricket time is quite important, so I dont think its a good Idea
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@alienstar (5142)
• India
23 Feb 07
Oh...is it? i never heard about this til now and maybe they have tried it out on trial basis and they are also planning to introduce at some point of time isn't it? so, might happen soa s technology will be used more and more now onwards and no one can stop that for sure
Anyway's, thanks for responding
@vikasgourishetty (101)
• United States
21 Feb 07
i think it should be given by field umpires only as the third umpires decision will take much time...
@alienstar (5142)
• India
23 Feb 07
Mybe your view will be shared by many But, the fact remains that at some point of time technology will overtake evrything and you cannot stop it for sure isn't it? so why not now than having it later.what do you say?
Anyway's, thanks for responding
@arunkumarkt (331)
• India
21 Feb 07
it is really a good discussion , but the thing is that for everey ball if the third umpire is expected then it wont b a odi it would e a test match.....
@alienstar (5142)
• India
23 Feb 07
Maybe only controversial or close calls can be referred to third umpires as also we can save time as it time is very important for one day formats isn't it? atleast we can avoid many controversies coming out of umpire decisions.
If we can refer only close decisions, then definitely it maynot be test matches isn't it?
Anyway's, thanks for responding
@maheshkumar_ss (63)
• India
21 Feb 07
yes..the umpires can ask third man decision also...
we can avoid some issues..
@alienstar (5142)
• India
23 Feb 07
DEfinitely we can make use of the technnologies isn't it and the sooner the better as it will be introduced in some point of time for sure and why not now for that matter...isn't it? some controversies can also be avoided for sure isn't it?
Anyway's, thanks for responding
@amitavroy (4819)
• India
22 Feb 07
no I think this is one aspect of cricket which cannot be controlled by the third umpire and because the third umpire is not physically present on the ground so he is not fully aware of the condition and so he cannot be the best judge of the leg before wicket dismissal. I think the two umpires on the ground of the best judge of the same end if they have any doubt then at any point of time the benefit can go to the batsmen as we know that cricket is a game where batsmen are a favourite to bowlers. Also if it is done then it will greatly slow down the pace of the cricket game which is not encouraging.
@waqar123 (25)
• Pakistan
23 Feb 07
I think it should be given out by third umpire decision. Because sometimes when on-field umpires give a wrong LBW decision at a key moment of the match the tables are turned on one team and the whole spirit of game evaporates. So better use of technology is not harmful.
@normanlewisword (242)
• India
26 Feb 07
lbw shouldnt be directly referred to the third umpire. But a provision should be made for the on field umpires to consult the third umpire on whether the ball has pitched outside the leg stump. the other finer details such as the ball nicking the bat cannot be detected by existing technology. So for such things the umpire can go by pure instincts.
