What do you feel when you encounter people who believe that God doesn't exist?

@yana0806 (565)
Philippines
February 22, 2007 9:03pm CST
Are you hurt?
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22 responses
• United States
23 Feb 07
People have there own chooses in believing or not, but to hear that God does not exist sounds imposible to me. It puts our Lord down in so many ways. All we can do as christians is to pray for those who are to saved. And one day maybe those people will understand and walk in the way of righteousness.
@limitup (324)
• United States
23 Feb 07
There is no doubt in my mind that something higher exists. To think that the whole universe and our ability to process thoughts, ideas, senses, the ability to build things, to make choices, to love, to harm, or to do anything is a miracle in itself. That our bodies can heal themselves, that thoughts attract results, that a rock is actually alive, that a bird can fly with the complexities of aerodynamics, that we are able to read and type and communicate over a box of eletricity. That there is not complete and total blackness is a miracle to me. To me, everything is a miracle. I cannot write that off as science or coincidence. And since I wasn't the one who created it, there is no doubt in mind that there is something greater than me that did.
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@limitup (324)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I am not hurt at all. I believe that most people that don't believe in God are still good and well-intentioned people. With that said, I think the belief in God, or a higher power of some kind, is extremely healthy and positive because it promotes the idea of hope and belief in something good. The most successful and happy people in the world tend to cultivate positive thoughts and beliefs about abundance, the goodness of themselves, and the goodness of their fellow man. Those that are unhappy and unsuccessful tend to cultivate thoughts of helplessness, lack of wealth, and fear (which turns to hate). I give the belief in God, or goodness in general, a big thumbs up.+++
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
23 Feb 07
Very well said, Limitup!!! I couldn't have said it better myself. I believe that for all the negativity that has been carried out in God's name, that infinitely more good has been accomplished in His name. We just tend to remember the negative. Further, that it's a faith in the existence of a Supreme Intelligence that allows us, or reminds us, to reach for the goodness within, as we interact with the world each day. I have a rather unconventional view of spirituality, but that does not prevent me from recognizing that choosing the goodness in our hearts is a choice. We could just as easily choose the ugliness to present to the world. Believing in a Higher Power helps us to remember that we are forever faced with that choice. And, since goodness is generally contagious ... I concur with your supposition that believing in a Supreme Intelligence stimulates happiness.
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@limitup (324)
• United States
23 Feb 07
Wow ladyluna. I think you have just said it better than me. Desiderata. You say "shame on you". I could give an uninformed and emotional gut reaction by giving an unhealthy and hurtful comment, but I choose to say thank you for your comment. I will consider what you say and take it to heart. I suspect that comment was derived from a misunderstanding from a comment in one of the posts above. To be a good person has nothing to do with who you call God or if you call something God at all. It is about treating each other with respect and goodness.
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@limitup (324)
• United States
23 Feb 07
Sure would. You seem like a good, smart guy (or gal, sorry I didn't check). And I would have replied to the last comment with a simple "no worries", but we make more when we use big, fancy, and prophetic words Ha ha. Kudos all.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
23 Feb 07
Hi Yana0806, Initially, I don't believe that I feel anything. It might be easy to say that one feels pity for those who live their lives without the comfort of faith. But, that would deny the validity of a credo that is as much a part of my being as the 10 Commandments are for others: We all learn our life lessons on our own, at our own pace. I will not negate another's right to learn their karmic lessons at their own pace, because I would not respect or allow another to interfere with my life-lessons process. The "Golden Rule" in practice, you might say. As I explore the ramifications of your question, I correct myself. Yes, I feel something ... Peace, in my knowing that the process is deeply personal to each; that everything is as it should be. If I do not wish to be judged because of where I am in my process, then I must not judge those who are at a different stage in their own. I can judge their actions and the results, in fact this judgement of action is essential to society's learning cycle. But, I will not judge the person's stage of development. Although with the really 'out of touch', like violent criminals I may feel a bit of impatience. Perhaps some sorrow, and a sincere hope that: If I need to come back to learn something that I didn't get this time around, that I sure hope I don't end up sitting next to them in class.
@limitup (324)
• United States
23 Feb 07
Excellent point. Many of us only seriously consider these thoughts and ideas on their deathbed. And many of us have pondered these ideas more deeply since early childhood. Our learning curves are all different and we all have different perceptions and points of views on these same principles. "...that everything is as it should be." Great line. It is sometimes difficult to see that things in this world can be incredibly great and peaceful if we truly intend them to be. "..learn something that I didn't get this time around..." I think it would be incredible if when we come back to this world (if we do in the sense of reincarnation), that we will not have to learn these lessons over again. It would be incredible, would it not, if we had the understanding and discipline level of those such as Jesus or Buddha*, already instilled in us at birth? Imagine the spiritual progress we could make in that lifetime. *Even if Jesus or Buddha did not exist (a whole other topic), I think my point will still be understood.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
23 Feb 07
Hi Limitup, Great response, and thank you for really reading my post. I appreciate your having taken the time. As for your statement: " ... if we had the understanding and discipline level of those such as Jesus or Buddha already instilled at birth?" On a soul level, I believe that we do have the understanding of Christ or Buddha or Lao Tzu from birth. I believe all three worked diligently to explain this to their contemporaries. God is within and all around. The spirit of the lion is the spirit of the tree, etc .... We just spend our whole lives remembering that we knew it all along. As to the notion of atheism: for a time, many years ago, fueled by my own disappointments and disgusted that THE PLAN wasn't paralleling my plan, I too denounced the existence of a Supreme Intelligence. I wasn't floating downstream, enjoying the majesty of the river banks, instead I was trying to paddle upstream, getting more flustered with each increment of failure. I believe that most people experience a similar moment in time. At that moment, some recognize that floating downstream, TRUSTING that the river will do as rivers do, is more reasonable, more comfortable, and infinitely wiser than paddling against the current. Others continue to paddle upstream, resentments building with each stroke. The river will carry us downstream without question. Knowing when to step ashore is up to us. If we are struggling, paddling against the current, we're more inclined to miss the big waterfall up ahead. Trusting in THE PROCESS and appreciating the ride, make for a more pleasurable trip. One of my favorite movie quotes is from "The Color Purple". It is: "I think it pisses God off when you walk by the color purple in a field, and don't notice it." Hmmm! Now, there's some food for thought.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I'm sure you're familiar with the "Seven Deadly Sins" otherwise known as "The Seven Cardinal Vices"? I believe that my two examples above: the river, and the color purple, exemplify why Pride is considered the worst of them all. It is pride that that makes men think that there is none greater than us all. Sadly, it is prideful stubborness that motivates man to believe that this is all there is, just a series of coincidences, and it is also prideful stubborness that motivates man to believe that his is the only accurate belief.
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@mssnow (9484)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I value everyones opinions. If they choose to not believe in God then so be it. Just as i choose to believe he exists. I will not be offended or turn away from anyone because of their religious or non religious ways.
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• Australia
23 Feb 07
i think its sad in a way knowing that if they dont accept God as their personal SAviour then they are going to hell.. eery one is allowed to have their own set of beliefs...i guess
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@Giggles88 (542)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I think they have a right to their own beliefs. It's their choice not to beleive in god and I don't think those of us that do beleive should think any less of them for it. I beleive in god but I will not force it onto someone else.
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@rmuxagirl (7548)
• United States
23 Feb 07
At first I reacted with disbelief like I find it hard how people can say no god at all can exist. I mean there are things in the world that science and stuff cannot explain, yet my faith in God can.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
23 Feb 07
It doesnt hurt me at all and doesnt affect me in any way actually but I dont believe in god either..and when someone tells me they DO believe in god I dont get hurt nor am I affected in any way..why would it hurt me? We arent carbon copies of each other and to be honest with you I owuld be rather disturbed if all of a sudden the entire human race followed the same religion, believed the same thing...We all, regardless of our spiritual or religious beliefs have something to contribute to society..What one believes or doesnt believe when it comes to religion isnt whats important...what IS important is how that person treats others and themselves.....
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@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
23 Feb 07
To each his own. A person who believes in God is not necessarily a better human being than a person who doesn't believe. If they are happy and fullfilled in life, it doesn't make one difference to me what spiritual path they travel.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
23 Feb 07
That is so true! and very well said btw...
@jbrooks0127 (2324)
• United States
28 Feb 07
No I am not hurt. If they state thier oppionion and that is all I am fine with it. But there are times when there seems to be anger in thier comment against christians. This I don't understand. We all have that day coming when we will find out first hand who is right.
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• Philippines
26 Feb 07
For me, I pitty on them. But I have also no right to judge them because I am not the God who knows everything. I just hope that they will believe but I also respect them as a person.
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• United States
23 Feb 07
No I am not hurt. I am sure God is but I am not. What I am is sad. Sad that these people don't know God and don't have him in their lives. One more thing; I pray for them. Right there on the spot silently.
• United States
23 Feb 07
LOL Touche`
@Myrrdin (3599)
• Canada
23 Feb 07
Why on earth would anyone be hurt by this, belief is a personal decision, not a public one. Religion is not an issue for the masses, but the individual, your belief should have zero effect on mine, as mine has zero effect on you. I can see people who want to sway the beliefs of others, I think it is generally rude, but to be hurt by someone else's belief is pointless. Sure try and convince me that there is a god (ok technically I believe in a supreme being, just not the god of the bible) I will argue back and point out my perspective, but I certainly will not be hurt if you are not swayed, nor should you be hurt if I am not swayed.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I agree with you completely Myrrdin..
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• United States
24 Feb 07
I don't feel anything negative toward them. I believe everyone has the right to believe in what or whom they may. Do I believe in God? Yes, I do. I also believe that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior.
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• United States
23 Feb 07
It doesn't hurt me one bit to hear people say that. When I do hear people say that I think ahhhh another person that thinks like me. What hurts me is when people hear I don't beleive they say I'll pray for you. You go right ahead a pray for me if you want. It won't have any affect on me at all in any way shape or form. One day I'm tempted to respond OK thanks. I won't pray for you.
• United States
23 Feb 07
You'd be surprised at the power of prayer and what God can do!
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• Indonesia
23 Feb 07
Neah, not really. One is entitle to their opinion. For me, when one says he/she doesn't believe in 'god'. I just let them be, thought in my honest opinion I must say that I don't understand how he/she could explain of all the things that happened in this world when one doesn't believe in GOD.
@Springlady (3986)
• United States
23 Feb 07
I try and show them that God is real by being loving and kind. The best thing any of us can do for them is to pray for them. I'm not hurt when they say they don't believe, but I do feel sorry for them.
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• Philippines
3 Mar 07
I feel surprised. I get confused and I begin to wonder why anyone would think that way. Because whenever I look around, and even when I close my eyes, I see evidences that God exists and is, in fact, alive and kicking.
@yana0806 (565)
• Philippines
3 Mar 07
I agree! I never doubt God existence and I will never ever doubt it! Your right it's so surprising but we have to respect everyones beliefs!
• India
3 Mar 07
Actually first i will try to know whats the region because of this person telling like this. if you will see this kind of thoughts arrives on those person who reached to top by hard work. Actually this makes him to think that if you will work hard you will be in top.. its not that god's makes you top
@ractims (51)
• India
24 Feb 07
Faith in God gives that strength which no other power on this earth can give.Our faith has to be very strong where one could close eyes and step forward. I have seen chronic patients recovering from illness because once they have been convinced that their faith in God will help them in recovering. The faith can help anybody to achieve heights in the life. So why not have faith in super power-GOD. We must sympathize with the ignorants who do not believe in God. Since they are missing a big strength.
@cyntrow (8523)
• United States
24 Feb 07
Many people find strength from within. Frankly, I do believe in God. But you must question whether these people who begin to heal because of their faith in God are actually healing because of God or because they believe that God will take care of them. Is it the power of the mind or the power of faith?
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