Job application- To disclose or not
By bethmt
@bethmt (419)
United States
February 24, 2007 5:03pm CST
My husband and I have a bit of a disagreement. Our youngest son who is 15 very much wants to have a summer job this year. He also has Type 1 (insulin dependent) diabetes and has had it for two years.
My husband says that when our son fills out his job applications this summer, he should disclose the fact that he had diabetes.
I say that he shouldn't say that because an employer may turn him down because he has diabetes, even though they don't have to say that's the reason.
Because our son has type 1 diabetes he has to check his blood sugar every few hours (which just take a few seconds)and he can't skip meals. So aside from that they're aren't really any special concessions that an employer would have to make for him.
This is something that our son will be living with for the rest of his life and I'd hate to think that an employer would disriminate against him because of his illness. So am I wrong to say that he shouldn't put that fact on his application or am I being overprotective?
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36 responses
@cavendish2 (3)
• Spain
25 Feb 07
Very complicated situation but, from my point of view, this an opportunity to really start addressing properly the illness of your son. Let me be a little candor. You and your son have to face this problem as early as possible. I mean, the earlier you address this issue the better will be in the future. Barriers are everywhere and will be in the future as well. I believe that it is better to face and overcome them despite the consequences. If because of his illness the employer donĀ“t hire him it is a proof that that neither the employer nor the job is worthy for your son. Go ahead with it, you are able to overcome all these kinds of problems if you face them with enough fortitude. The future will be better. I hope have been useful
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@bethmt (419)
• United States
26 Feb 07
I'm just concerned that an employer will see on the application that he has diabetes and choose not to hire him, but they can just use any reason they want so that it's not seen as disciminatory. So you're right, it is complicated. I suppose I'll just have to let my son know to trust his instincts and hope for the best. Thanks for your helpful reply.
@jalpari123 (12)
• United States
25 Feb 07
first of all diabetes isnt an illness its a chronic ongoing health problem. I would tell the boss for one simple reason that if something were to happen to your son your boss will be in a better situation to help him. He can state he has diabetes but that he doesnt need any special concessions besides eating his meals on time. Alot of people all over the world suffer with diabetes and they work and enjoy life. There is no reason for his boss to reject his application its not like diabetes is a contagious disease so dont worry and be honest. If your son does get rejected then it isnt some place he wants to work at because it shows that they dont treat their employees well
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@bethmt (419)
• United States
25 Feb 07
I agree that his employer should know once he's been hired but wasn't sure if he had to put it down on the application.
Still I'm kind of surprised by the responses of some people at the school that my son attends concerning diabetes. A teacher once chewed him out for carrying his insulin pen in his pocket, even though my son had to have it in his pocket because he was going to lunch. When I asked my son why the teacher was angry he said that the teacher said people could accidently come in contact with the insulin and have an allergic reaction! My son was very level headed about the whole thing and told me that he explained to the teacher that his insulin pen had no exposed needle attached to it and that insulin is a hormone so people can't have allergic reactions to it. I was very proud of him for handling it so well but this isn't the first time people have made statements that were off base.
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@Mamaof2 (574)
• Canada
25 Feb 07
I would def make sure he lets the boss know about his medical condition! It is up to him weither it be first off before getting hired or after he is hired. These people need to know. If something happens to him at work they need to know the proper steps to follow as well as they need to know that it is very important that he gets his lunch and breaks as schedualed everyday. That way he can take his blood and get something to eat. I dont think that they can not hire him for something like this. Who knows tho. If it was me, I would wait until after I got the job. Then ask to meet with the boss and just explain.
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@lauriefnp (5109)
• United States
24 Feb 07
I can see your point as well as your husband's. I would like to think that employers do not discriminate based on a chronic illness such as diabetes, but they may. Aside from him needing regular breaks for meals, they may be thinking in the back of their minds that he mill miss a lot of work. I agree with you that he should never disclose his illness to a POTENTIAL employer. His diabetes has nothing at all to do with him being able to perform any job that he wants to do. He does not need any special treatment from employers because of it. I do think that once he has a job he should tell his employer and his supervisors so that they can be aware in case he gets sick. If he has a hypoglycemic reaction, they should know how to recognize the symptoms and what to do for him. This is a matter of his own safety. He should do the same when he goes to school or college, or when out with friends. There should always be somebody who knows what to do in case he gets sick and cannot help himself. I'm sure that he knows the signs to watch for, but if his employer is unaware of his diabetes he may hesitate to say anything and end up in trouble.
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@bethmt (419)
• United States
25 Feb 07
That's what I was worried about as far as disclosing it to a potential employer, not so much for summer work but for when he becomes an adult and is out working on his own. But once he is employed then he definitely should tell the employer because of the possible complications that can arise. As far as school, they know all about his diabetes and the same with his friends but that's a good point to let the college that he goes to know about it too. Thanks for a very helpful reply.
@bethmt (419)
• United States
25 Feb 07
I understand what you're saying Darkest Lily, because some employers expect employees to work through their lunch or dinner hours or to delay their meal time if the work load is high. If he was working a summer job he wouldn't be working more than 4 hours a day so the meal time wouldn't be an issue, however he might have to take a few minutes to check his glucose level every so often. Still, I'm not sure if he legally has to disclose the fact of his diabetes to a potential employer.
Thanks for your response. :)
@Darkest_Lily (16)
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25 Feb 07
I disagree. He is going to need special treatment from employers - even if it only means taking five minutes every few hours to eat something or to check his blood sugar levels. Also, potential employers need to know about any medical conditions in advance so that they know that they are adequately informed and will be able to deal with the situation if your son was to go into a hypo. If a company rejects an applicant with an illness such as diabetes it is more often than not a sign of them not being equipped to deal with an emergency with his medical condition rather than being out of discrimination.
My younger sister is deaf in one ear and she went through something similar when trying to decide whether or not to let potential employers know about her condition and in the end she decided it would be better to be honest. At the end of the day though, being deaf in one ear can't kill you, for your son's health you should DEFINATELY inform any potential employer of his condition.
@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
25 Feb 07
It is of course illegal to discriminate due to health conditions. However, we all know that it is done everyday. SAdly, employers aren't as knowledgable about diabetes as you and may see diabetes and feel as though your son will be sickly and/or miss a lot of work etc. So I wouldn't let him list it on the application. AFter employed, it is important that those with whom he works know about the diabetes so that he can be given regular/routine meals. Also, should he become ill, they would need to know to check his blood sugar. There is no reason that he can't do anything that other 15 year-olds can do.
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@retardedrugrat (4791)
• Canada
25 Feb 07
He really needs to disclose the fact. It's a matter of safety. If anything should happen to your son because he missed a meal or something because his employer doesn't know, the consequences could be tragic.
I understand your concerns about employers potentially discriminating against him because of his illness. But there could be a lot more trouble if he doesn't tell them and then something happens.
I wouldn't say you're wrong to say he shouldn't put it on his application form, but I do think you're being a wee little bit overprotective, but hey, thats what we moms do.
Our job is to protect our children, and I do think that in order to protect your son, he does need that bit of information on his application form.
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@bethmt (419)
• United States
25 Feb 07
Thanks for very kindly pointing out that I'm overprotective, lol. I definitely would want him telling an employer, once he is hired, about his diabetes. But I just wasn't sure if he had to put the fact that he is diabetic on his application. Thanks for responding. :)
@lonewolfnan (4366)
• Canada
24 Feb 07
If on the application it asks questions about health,it is always best to answer truthfully.At an interview,it is the same thing.Answer the questions openly and honestly.But just answer the question itself and not giving any information not asked for.
@Willowlady (10658)
• United States
25 Feb 07
The employer should know. Just in case something would happen on the job. That could cost him a job if found out later. Better to err on the side of honesty that to be found to lie. A good conversation with the employer could allay the fears. Would let the job start out on the right foot.
Good luck with this. First jobs are real important.
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@limosonia1 (1559)
• United States
25 Feb 07
He doesn't need to disclose it on an application. But if he gets hired shoud let his boss know. They shouldn't have a problem with it and the accomidations aren't going to be anything that requires much. But atleast if something god forbid happens at the work place they need to know what to tell the paramedics.
@yanjiaren (9031)
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25 Feb 07
to be honest..i think you should say..cos if anything happended while the kid is at the job..at least the employer will know what to do..better to be safe than sorry..i am sure there will be people out there who will value his skills as a member of the community..
@howard96h (11640)
• New York, New York
25 Feb 07
Yes the employer should know but the question is when do you tell him. I agree with you, if he states it on the application then the boss might not hire him thinking he will be a health risk and of course he will use another excuse for not giving him the job. I would apply and not disclose this on the application. After he is hired he then can sit down with his employer and explain his condition.
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
25 Feb 07
As someone who has been one the hiring end I don't think your son needs to disclose his condition on his application. I've hired a few people with diabetes and have never found it to be an issue. Just a mention of it during the interview is fine. If he is matter of fact about it and lets his potential employer know that he has his daibetes managed and it will not effect his job performance that should be enough. Diabetes is a pretty common condition now a days and most employers will be accomodating. Good luck on your sons job hunt!
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@hartnsoul (558)
• Philippines
25 Feb 07
I hate to break your heart but I have to agree with your husband. Stating health conditions in job applications should not hinder an individual from being hired especially when the task on hand is about the persons intellect and ability. Stating a health condition may in fact save your son from any untoward incident the owrk may entail. For example, you said that he should not shkip meals, this will allow future employer to beware that its employees should also be following strict breaktime to ensure productivity.
I have gastritis and when I was working for a call center before, I mentioned this to the HR who hired me when asked what could hinder my productivity. As you know, when working for such an industry (customer service), call volume may not allow you to have your lunch break on time. Thus, it triggers my tummy aches. When my tummy aches, I cannot provide quality service to the customers and sometimes I get irate. It had a negative efffect on my performance and when my team leader assessed my file, that's when she found out that I have gastritis and she would always remind me to eat during breaks.
If having diabetes hinders him from getting the job, it is your legal right to complain about it. Conditions like that should not be a basis for rejecting employment. There are laws for that. :)
@bethmt (419)
• United States
25 Feb 07
I just wasn't sure if he should put it on the application or wait until an interview or someone has actually hired him. Thanks for your response, I think I just worry about him being treated unfairly but as I know already there's no way to protect one's kids from that. :)
@juliocstryfe (2019)
• Brazil
25 Feb 07
I think he should either put it, or after starting the job, state that he has a mild starting diabetes, because should the company find out, he could loose his job, or his reputation as a honest person.
-JCM-
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@quatelmon (955)
• United States
25 Feb 07
I don't think that he needs to put it on the application. He will have to have an interview with his employer, so he should mention it then. If he can explain it in person, it'll sound much better than it does on paper. I have a few friend with diabeties who has the same thing they have to do. He should definitely tell his employer, but not untill the interview, I feel. If he works hard and makes a great impression during an interview, they won't have a reason not to hire him.
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@bananamanuk (835)
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25 Feb 07
It should be illegal to discriminate against someone on the basis of disability or illness, however such legislation varies country to country and even then although the rules are there, that doesn't mean employers follow them. However, having said that, I believe that your husband is correct, you should disclose the diabetes on the application form, its better to be open and honest about it, rather than suddenly getting the job and your son finding difficulties trying to explain himself afterwards. Diabetes should not stop him being able to do a job, and any right mighted employer should understand that.
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@funzone (86)
• India
25 Feb 07
No I do not think that any employer would have to do anything with this. As if your son tell them that he has diabetes, it would not affect in his career. There are so many peoples who have so many problems including diabetes. Also this will not affect the working of the son. So even if your son tell about or not, he will be employed.
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@JulieSkyRock (401)
• Canada
25 Feb 07
He shouldn't tell he has diabete. It will increase his chance to get a summer job. As a student, I find it hard myself to find a job, so I guess it's only harder for a teenager who has diabetes. For him I guess the best should be to check for a job in an office or in a shop. That way, he will be sure he won't miss any meal, an every few hours, he will be able to check his blood, we will only need to go to the washroom, so no one can see what he's actually doing. I really thing he should keep it secret.