Can people who commit suicide go to Heaven?
By eeseharden
@eeseharden (603)
United States
February 26, 2007 11:55pm CST
This question hits very close to home for me and I want to find out how some of you understand this to be. My great uncle recently shot himself after suffering for the past 3 years with cancer. He left a note to my great aunt telling her that he couldn't watch her suffer any longer. He was a devout Christian. Can you be forgiven of a sin if you aren't alive to ask forgiveness for it, such as with suicide. Be honest with me on this. I really want your feelings about this from a Biblical standpoint.
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31 responses
@oarnamav (2708)
• India
27 Feb 07
The concept of heaven is imaginary.
Getting shooted definitly ended the deep pain,
But could have been delt even in some other fashion,
I am not that an authority to talk about but one of
friend is working for AIDS affected people when
he was told that he has a cancer, his doctor
told him about the maximum time presious time left
for him to go enjoying and he has opted for this work.
I told him the ways he can enjoy being very very rich
but he said this one the only enjoyment I am yet
to recieve in my life and let me get fulfilled.
I am not able to stop my tears while writing this here.
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I'm sorry you feel that Heaven is not real. I however do, because God promises us that he will prepare a place in Heaven for his children. I will pray for you and your friend.
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@flowerchilde (12529)
• United States
22 Mar 07
...the bible is perfect, exccept for one mistranslation ("hell") and maybe some errors in copying geneologies form likely men's records.. but people can (and have) read some things wrong.. for example how often is - "God is the savior of ALL, especially those that believe" quoted? - as far as other things brought up in this thread, evolution as a theory of origins is very quickly being outdated, tho you wouldn't know it, and many will not volunteer the information.. I'm going to start some posts on some of these new scientific findings - and the almost total lack of any data and observations supporting the theory of evolution, soon.. What is more and more coming to light is "intelligent design" i.e. an intelliegence behind all physical manifestation [in my opinion - i.e. intelligence behind all creation, creating and sustaining - it doesn't always matter to believers, for most of us believe because we have met and had experiences with God, or His Son.. and it's hard for someone to come along and say - hey! that person you know, doesn't really exist! - But I just happen to LOVE science. I also like discussion and debate.. so I try to keep up to par with all the arguments.. please read my other post above-:))
@mywords18 (645)
• United States
27 Feb 07
well cant say and why u talkin so negative ,,,talk about being alive and agile,,,,not all this and give people ideas,, just shoo such ideas away from ur mind.
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I'm trying to do just that. But my uncle isn't alive and I am concerned about him. I am not trying to give anyone any ideas. I just wanted to hear some input on a topic that is very important to me. But thank you for posting.
@absadoolly (62)
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27 Feb 07
I am an atheist and I find this question very sad. Your uncle did something out of LOVE - love for his wife. How can that be wrong? If your god were to condemn him because of that - well, what sort of god is that, exactly? At the end of the day, your Uncle's love for his wife was stronger than his love for a man-made god and that is how it should be.
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Actually I like your sentiment, but that alone isn't enough to convince me that my uncle may be in Heaven. Good acts and good deeds won't get you into Heaven. It's wrong because God's word tells us it is wrong. We have a very forgiving, loving, awesome God. But for what he has done for us we should be willing to give all to him. And I truly believe in God, who sent His only son, Jesus, to die on the cross so that all who call upon his name as their savior can be forgiven of our sins. So yes my uncle did what he did out of love for his wife and that is to end her suffering. That doesn't make it right in the eyes of the Lord. I pray that he was forgiven though.
@coolali143 (139)
• United Arab Emirates
27 Feb 07
i believe its difficult to be forgiven for the sucide but it mite still be worked out by prayers ...
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I agree that it would be difficult to be forgiven, if possible at all. I hope prayers will help.
@beaniegdi (1964)
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27 Feb 07
If there is a god and a heaven then he will not be cross because your great uncle killed himself. Remember god is meant to be all knowing, all loving, all forgiving. He will know that your great uncle must have been suffering and ill in his mind to do what he did. Can you really think that god would be cross? that implies an imperfection in god and we know that is not possible. Pray for you uncle if that makes you feel better.
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@jaanhvimittal (78)
• India
27 Feb 07
this is really a very tough question
it was really avery bold step taken by your uncle
it may be possible that he was tired by living life like a sick person
but the question still remains same that they go to heaven or hell
people having a good soul always go to the heaven
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
28 Feb 07
That is true...only God knows for sure and he makes the decisions.
@JellyBeans (639)
• Canada
28 Feb 07
I can't tell you this, maybe it would be best if you asked a priest. But from my opinion, i think it all depends on what you did in your entire life, if you were nice and believed alot in God and the bible, then you will most likely go in heaven. I can't really tell you this, because there is no comfirmation that Heaven nor Hell exists.
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I appreciate your commenting. But what confirmation do you need about a Heaven or a Hell? God's Word says it, so it is true. Believing in God is key, but even Satan believes in God...and he fears God. What you do in your life and how good or nice you are will not determine your place in Heaven. You must confess that Jesus is Lord and you must believe that with your heart for He knows our hearts. I pray that you will search your soul and read the Bible. I'm so confused as to why so many people have so much doubt. I will pray for you JellyBeans.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
28 Feb 07
This may sound crazy to anyone who is not a devout Christian.....
Remember that often times illness is brought on by a spirit of illness. I don't think that God would punish your uncle for being under the influence of such a thing.
Also without the spirit of illness part - I think that when people are so sick they are not in their right frame of mind. I don't think that God could hold someone accountable if they are not in their proper state of mind. If we as humans can see that people who are "insane" (using that for lack of a better word) cannot be held accountable; shouldn't our heavenly father be the same?
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I completely understand what you are saying and this isn't crazy at all. If you believe in God and his mercy, then how can you doubt His Word? Your response certainly gives me some much needed encouragement.
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@mommydiaries (191)
• Philippines
27 Feb 07
As a Catholic, I have been raised to believe that taking one's like is against the teachings of Christanity. I feel deeply for ur uncle and his pain. I am sure he wanted only to make things easier for your aunt. We have no way of knowing what went on in your uncle's mind the moment he was taking his own life. I believe that if he asked God to forgive him for what he was about to do, God may have heeded his prayers. And if in case he wasn't able to ask God for forgiveness for what he was about to do, the continued prayers of those he left behind will intercede for him. So I encourage you and your family to pray for your uncle and ask forgiveness on his behalf. God is an understanding and kind God, I want to believe that He welcomes His children to His loving arms no matter what.
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Thank you so much for this response. I do pray for him still and others like him. Thank you for your encouragement. I like to believe that too.
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@Crystal5 (65)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I beleive that yes he can be forgiven for that. I beleive that he will go to heaven. In my religion I was taught that eveyone is welcome to go to heaven it is those that turn heaven away that don't go. (I'm Luthran) My standpoint on this is that yes he will be forgiven and he will go to heaven.
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
28 Feb 07
You are the first Luthran I have heard from. It's nice to get a different viewpoint. We pretty much believe that those who turn away from God are the ones in the end who will remain unforgiven. Thank you for encouraging me.
@clemie7 (73)
• Canada
27 Feb 07
I have always wondered about this myself. I suppose there is no way to really know. However, I personally think your great uncle would go to heaven because he was suffering and was trying to put himself out of his suffering and all the while, was a christian.
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I agree with you that it is not for us to decide...that is totally up to God. You are correct on that one. Thank you for joining in.
@Tigriza (15)
• Bulgaria
27 Feb 07
Hi!
I occupation with this kind of stuff from long time ago. I will be honest with you. Your great uncle will not be in heaven.
There are a lot of rules in there. This sickness was trial for him, and he didn't pass it, so now his soul has several different options.
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
28 Feb 07
What are the options you are referring to? Do you believe that murderers can be forgiven? What about an example that I gave earlier? What if you commit a sin and before you can ask forgiveness, you die? Are you condemned then to Hell? Please explain this a little further. I want to know what you feel are the options. Thanks.
@orangepeel (90)
• Philippines
27 Feb 07
I think they don't. Judas was an example, and he lost his place in heaven. Not because of his betrayal to Jesus, but because he opted to kill himself.
@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I respect your thoughts on this. I just believe that it can somehow be forgiven. It may not be for us to understand, but I do think it is possible. Thank you for your response though.
@revdauphinee (5703)
• United States
27 Feb 07
since i believe we have a compasionate God i do believe he will not condem someone who is not in there right mind and for a person to commit such an act they have to be sick in there minds dont you feel?he will judge them aslong with the rest of us for deeds they did in there life time however we must never loose sight of his compasion so yes there is a chance for your uncle to go to heaven and dont you let anyone tell you otherwise our destiny is in gods hands not in human ones!
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
God bless you for your sentiment. I like to think that is the case too. It certainly gives me comfort, not just in this case, but others as well.
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@melissacus (441)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I don't think anybody has the right or authority to say who goes to heaven and who doesn't. Only god does. God's the one who judges us, not the bible. The bible was created by man, god didn't personally write it. Those aren't his words. I, personallly, don't believe you have to ask forgiveness for every sin you commit. I believe your great uncle has just as much right as the next person to go to heaven. I'm sure he was a good, if not great person. I know you asked my opinion from a biblical standpoint, but the fact is, I'm not too familiar with the bible. The bible, your relationship with it, and how well you follow it doesn't decide whether you're "qualified" to go to heaven. Your relationship with god and who you are as a person does. That's what I choose to believe.
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I agree that we cannot really know what God's decision on this will be. He and He alone knows all the answers. God will forgive the sins of those who believe in His power and authority and accept that He is our Lord and Savior. In that case, only those who never accept Him have committed the unforgivable sin. I do appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
@cristobert (332)
• India
27 Feb 07
I'd lost one of my uncle like that, he too was was a very nice and G_d fearing person. I always thought that when a person goes to such extremes, he or she must have lost his or her natural sense. I mean they must be almost close to insanity, will G_d forgive a person who has done a mistake out of his sound mind??
What about soldiers who'd go to a situation where they know that they'll die for sure and yet do that for the sake of land and honor?
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
That's a view I hadn't thought of either. I'm sorry about your uncle as well. I pray that God has forgiven them both. I guess we'll have to wait until we join them in Heaven to find out for sure.
@somayajulu (121)
• India
27 Feb 07
Hey my friend!! christianity is the great religion which is the symbol of peace, which did spread peace, but I think there are no one on this earth who understood the great religion properly. I am not a christian but I feel from my heart that a christian will never be punished for his sins. He is excused for all his sins and the almighty gives him a chance to live in his next life to spread love and kindness. I donot about the people who do punishable offences but your grand father will be excused. You don't worry.. He souls is now resting in heaven undoubtedly
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@rogermore1 (5)
• United States
27 Feb 07
The Great One created you, so if you ask me you have no right to destroy his creation. Period.
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@eeseharden (603)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I do agree that we have no right to destroy what God has created, but murder is also a sin...and it can be forgiven. So I have to believe that if a person has been saved, and chooses to end their own life, they will have to answer to God for that decision, but I still believe that can be forgiven. Only blasphemers cannot be forgiven.