Why do we have to pay the goverment to be in love with someone and share our

@nowment (1757)
United States
February 28, 2007 11:09am CST
lives with them? We do in order for a marriage to be valid we have to have a marriage license which means we have to pay the goverment to dictate to us on our private lives why? Perhaps this should be a question for legal, or philosophy, or marriage, rather than relationships, but I do wonder does anyone else think it is wrong that the goverment gets to have some say in our ability to marry, and to consider our relationships invalid if we do not pay them, we pay taxes so if this is necessary then shouldn't this be covered by our taxes that we pay already? I realize that concept of legal marriages originated and still has validity to protect estates, and inheiritances but again why do we have to pay the goverment for the right to marry?
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• United States
28 Feb 07
I don't understand why we have to pay the goverment to get married. I don't even understand why it is any of there business. I think that if a couple wants to get married, they should be able to do it without a license. What's the license do. It's only a piece of paper! Why do we need a piece of paper?! I think that if a couple wants to get married it should be between them and their familes. Goverment should not be involved whatsoever!!!
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@nowment (1757)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I do realize that this became an issue when estates and inheirtances were in dispute many generations ago, however the average person does not have large estates to protect. Yet if you want your marriage to be considered legal and legitmate you have to file it with the goverment, why a relationship any less real or binding if there is not paperwork filed with the goverment? What about those people the goverment gets to decide can't be married, and it is more than just the fee for filing paperwork there is also the medical expense that is required due the need for blood tests which are NOT cheap. I know that the filing fee for a marriage license is not that high but any medical procedure in this country and blood test for any reason is way to expensive. Especially if you do not have medical coverage. So the goverment gets to determine who should and shouldn't be married, because only those marriages that are registered with the goverment are legal, yet gays can't marry, at one point there were laws against inter-racial heterosexual marriages as well. A stigma is put on a an innocent child which is not as strong an issue today as it was years ago, but still exists for some, if that child's parents are not married legally. if Legitimate means by one definition not being spurous or false then does this mean that a child who is not legitimate is in fact false, how is a child false is that child any less real due to the decision made by its parents, and why is the child the one who is stigmatized for the actions that took place prior to and at his or her conception?
@rusty2rusty (6763)
• Defiance, Ohio
28 Feb 07
I don't think we pay the goverment for the right to marry. I believe we pay for a license.So the goverment can keep track of people who marry more than one person at a time. That is against the law in the USA.
@nowment (1757)
• United States
28 Feb 07
Well that raises another question why is it against the law to enter into a poloamory relationship? While I think that those who commit bigamy are wrong to do so it is because of the lie they are telling that I think that they are wrong, not because of the fact they may have more than one spouse.
• Defiance, Ohio
1 Mar 07
The law was made because the magority of the people and law makers wanted it to be law at the time. Many people are still against poloamory marriages in the USA. As for it still happening....well, yeah, you will always have people who will commit crimes. No matter how many laws are made. Some people just have to break them.
@nowment (1757)
• United States
28 Feb 07
The fact that bigamy exists shows that having a marriage license does not prevent it from happening.
@nicolec (2671)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I agree with the majority of the other posters. You are not paying the governement. You are paying a filing fee to get the liscense. In many states blood work is still needed before marriage. This liscense states you are of the right age, you are not already married and you have had your blood work done. So, unfortuantly I have to disagree with your assesment.
@nowment (1757)
• United States
28 Feb 07
I didn't expect many to agree with my view point, but I do enjoy learning the opinions of others and why they feel that way. I feel we should all be allowed to have our opinions on this and other issues. What is the reason for the bloodwork? why is this so essential for marriage? And again I pay taxes so any census information such as the goverment knowing if I am of the right age, and if I am already married or not should be taken care of by those taxes, why the additional fee for the paper work I know why and where it originates. Due to legitimacy, inheirtance etc, but a person's children whether they are the children from a legal marriage or not shouldn't those children have rights of being provided for by parents as well? So for my perspective it comes back to a way for the goverment to control the lives of others and extort money from its citizens.
@nicolec (2671)
• United States
1 Mar 07
To be honest, I'm not quite sure the reason for bloodwork. I know it has it's roots from way back when, so it must have some reason. A census is only done where you live. Suppose you want to get married in your soon to be's place of residance. Well, someone would have to take the time to look up that census. I'd bet you would have to pay them to do that. But when you get a liscense it is YOU that are vowing you are of right age. It is YOU that vows you are not already married. You need to sign to these things. It's, how to say it, an oath of truth.
@nowment (1757)
• United States
2 Mar 07
But you are already making that vow that oath, when you make the proposal to the person in your life, that you are of legal age, that you are not already married. There is no vow of blood work though, in places where it is required proof has to be shown to the license office. Why do I need a license to get married? Other than it is the law, why is it the law? Why should it be the law? Unless those can be properly explained then I will have to continue to feel the goverment is extorting people and trying to control their lives.
@Fishish (696)
• India
28 Feb 07
i dont quite get your point.. i mean it has to be within the limits of law that we marry. we can t get married at any age, it should be only when you are suitable for it. also the laaws are made to protect people from child marriages and stuff adn the govt expects educated people to already know that early marriage is not good...
@nowment (1757)
• United States
28 Feb 07
Now you have made a valid point one which I can agree with that there should be laws protecting the rights, choices of minors, though those laws exist not as marriage laws but exist regarding crimes against children from abuse. So saying there are laws to protect people regarding marriage ok but how does the law saying I need to file for a license protect me, it limits those who can marry that are in fact consenting adults, there are laws that specifically state consenting adults are not allowed to marry. In an age of disposable relationships where divorce is so easy to come by for those who don't want to make an effort to work at relationships yet those who are being abused have severe limits places on their freedom and protection can't easily get a divorce, it shows an inequality on many levels that should be considered wrong for a country that is supposed to be based on equal rigths for its citizens.