What makes a movie great?
By MadOvid
@MadOvid (67)
Canada
February 28, 2007 6:29pm CST
Let's face it, most of the movies we like won't be remembered a year from now. What we once thought were great, unforgettable movies, are now consigned to the bargain bin at the local Wal-mart.
Yet there are movies that have stood the test of time and have remained popular and well regarded by critics and movie goers alike. So what is it? How do these movies stand the test of time? Is it the directing, cinematography, good acting, busty heroines?
Tell me, I'd really like to know.
3 responses
@nicolec (2671)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I think what makes a movie great is the ability to get people to talk about it. When you leave the theater and actually want to talk about what you just saw, then it will endure. Not "did you like it"..."yeah I liked it". And that's it.
Now what makes a movie one you want to talk about? Perhaps great cinematography, story or acting. Some of the great movies like A Street Car Named Desire, Gone with Wind and Casablanca (for starters) all have memorable line. From "Stella! Stella", "Frankly Scarlet, I don't give a" to "This could be the start of a beautiful friendship". They also have memorable characters.
Of couse there is always more, but that's a good start.
@nicolec (2671)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I some what agree that a great movie deals with an underlying philosophy. Although i don't agree that the movies you have chosen should be classified as 'great'. But you also have to remember that movies are also solely for entertainment. And sometimes a great movie just makes you forget life for awhile and makes you feel great. In the 50's when musicals were popular it was simply because people left the theater in high spirits and feeling good about life. Sometimes that's all we need.
@MadOvid (67)
• Canada
2 Mar 07
That's definitely a part of it. Memorable lines can stick in a persons consciousness and find its way into the cultural lexicon.
I'd say it goes a bit deeper than that. What makes a movie great is, well, great philosophy. Yes, I've just uttered the most boring word in the English language. Right next to Algebra and Tax Laws. But I've found that the best movies, those that last and will continue to last, are those that present a serious and well thought out idea or question to the audience. Usually you can trace these ideas back to great thinkers all the way back to Plato. For instance
The Matrix: Plato's Cave (We're all trapped by Politics and the philosopher is the one who can escape it (ie Neo) and fight against fate (Agent Smith))
The Thing: Responses to Nihilism (There is no Truth, no Hope, and we're all going to die)
Moulon Rougue: What is love.
Batman Returns: Justice vs. Vengeance
The Prestige: What is the purpose of Art
Some people may not completely understand some of these concepts, God knows I don't, but it gets their brains turning, asking questions, coming to conclusions, slowly putting together the difference images and statements of the film and going, "Oh snap! Logan's Run is about man's search for his Good! This is who Logan represents, this is who the Old Man represents! And the city represents this concept of Political life!"
A film, I believe, can be judged by how well it represents it's main concept or idea and the veracity of its statements. That's my two cents.
@infowiz36 (59)
• United States
1 Mar 07
The clarification of what makes a great story is important but in movies there are many factors to consider. The fact that Dirty Dancing and the Princess Bride are such staples of my generation atone to the fact that not every great movie is deep. Harry Potter and LOTR just to name a few have had such a literal inpact on our culture, both as books and as movies but they can be reduced to formulaic creations. It is the difference between knowing Titanic is a blockbuster and DaVinci (sp?)Code was "right time, right place."
The difference between a good movie and a great story is what moves a culture to include it as history.
@MadOvid (67)
• Canada
1 Mar 07
So the definition of what makes a movie, or story, great is purely cultural. Therefore what makes a movie great changes from culture to culture.
But are there no absolute standards that we can apply to the definition of a great movie, beyond what speaks to a certain culture at a certain time? We still watch The Seven Samurai and Citizen Kane. Both are studied in University Film courses, so I would argue that there is a reason, a standard that we can apply to both films that can tell us what makes a movie great or merely good.
@susieq223 (3742)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I think the first criteria for a great movie is the story. There are those stories that are so moving or so entertaining they are unforgettable. "Gone with the Wind" falls in that category for me. Of course, the fact that Clark Gable was in it didn't hurt!
That brings me to the second factor; good acting. Every great movie had good acting and usually a cast that included popular, good actors. Take "Breakfast at Tiffany's" for instance. Almost every movie Audrey Hepburn did could be a classic. "Charades" is another favorite of mine. Who could beat a team like Audrey Hepburn and Cary Grant" Speaking of Hepburns, Katherine Hepburn had some classics of her own, including "Philadelphia Story" and "The African Queen" with another great--Humphrey Bogart.
I think the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy will join "Star Wars" partly because of the great cinematography and special effects.
Finally there are some movies that become classic due to the sparks between the stars. Two of my personal favorites are "Pretty Woman" (Richard Gere and Julia Roberts) and "Dirty Dancing". (Oh those scenes between Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Gray) Neither of these movies had a spell binding story or Oscar level acting, but just worked.
Overall, I think it is a combination of all of the above, plus the timing. Sometimes a movie makes an unforgettable statement about the current society. "Rebel Without a Cause" was one of those, as were many of the lavish musicals during the 40's and 50's. "The Wizard of OZ" took us out of a fearsome world into a magic land. So did many others.
To me a classic movie is one I can watch over and over without tiring of it. For me that doesn't happen too often.
@MadOvid (67)
• Canada
1 Mar 07
Then maybe the question is also "what makes a good story?" There have been many stories that have been well crafted, had good characters, lots of twists and turns. Yet they have not stayed in the human consciousness.
Others have lasted for thousands of years and are likely to last a thousand more. Gilgamesh was written around 1200 BC, yet we still read it, discuss it, reference it in Star Trek. But why, why do we even bother with this musty old epic poem about Gods, priestesses and homosocial relationships?