Door to door religious sales men?
By nowment
@nowment (1757)
United States
February 28, 2007 6:39pm CST
I don't know what else to call it, if not door to door salesmen, when someone can ring my bell and intrude on my time and into my home at will, just because they have an appalling lack of common courtesy and disregard for my rights.
I know that there are many religious groups who feel that they are "helping" then leave literature, and offer a call back, leave a number where they can call you back. Don't just ring the bell and take up their time.
For me I do not answer the door, but I still have to settle the dogs down or whatever and feel that my time is important. When I worked nights it was equal to someone coming to your home at 3 am and waking you up by ringing your bell and disturbing your rest.
They do not see it this way since most people don't work nights but in fact there is a large portion of the population that does in fact work nights in this country and I am sure in others as well.
Opinions?
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26 responses
@unusualsuspect (2602)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I pretty much solved that problem by tacking a small notice right next to the door. "No solicitions. That means you!" It usually worked. When it didn't at least I had the chance to insult their reading ability.
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@kate1356 (697)
• United States
1 Mar 07
Personally, I think there should be a law against them coming to your house. If I see them coming, I never open the door. Every so often I am expecting company and will accidently open the door for one them. (I think salespeople is a good word for them.. they are trying to sell you their religion).
I can't imgaine anyone changing their religion because someone came to the door and tried to talk them into buying a religious magazine. I have to wonder how many people they recruit with their door-to-door sales pitch.
@nowment (1757)
• United States
1 Mar 07
Well they don't try to "sell" their magazine perse, they are selling their beleif which they justify by saying that it is in the bible to go out and preach, and ok Jesus did go among the people and preach his word but he didn't go door to door saying stop everything you are doing and listen to me,
I guess I started thinking of them as salesmen because they do feel the need to get their sales pitch in, and even when you say you are not interested they still keep going, as if their being pushy will cause you to change your mind.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I agree. If you want to go to their church, would have been going to their church. and to disturb your sleep is direspectful. Sometimes I think we should have those signs you see at hotels "Quiet Please" or "Do Not Disturb" for our front doors.
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@stibigirl (291)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I totally understand what you are saying, I had this experience just this sunday morning. I don't work nights, but I don't want some one knocking on my door at 9am when I am in my pajamas doing my laundry. They cannot read my sign even though it is right above the doorbell; I see that they don't think they are soliciting, but they are. When I answered the door on sunday the man had a boy with him (maybe 10 years old), now I am sorry if I was rude, but when I have clearly posted that I do not accept solicitation, I feel that by just knocking on my door they have been rude.
I not only told the man to leave, but I told him that he was wasting his time trying to "invite" people to church, if people want to go they will show up. I personally hate people who knock on my door trying to sell religion.
@nowment (1757)
• United States
1 Mar 07
yes that is what I mean, the sign while it is a great idea, doesn't always work for some, one time I was literally walking out of the door, and I kept saying I am on my way out, and late, but they were not getting the point, I then said one moment please, turned back inside, did what I needed to leave, then I walked out the door locked it and kept going,
I don't feel I was rude as I had told them I was trying to leave, and that I was on my way out when they arrived and so I just left.
On another occassion my dog went balistic, barking and carrying on, lol well did nothing to calm the dogs, and did not try to open the door. They left fairly quickly.
I then gave the dogs biscuits for doing a good job.
I feel that my time in my home is just that MY time, it is personal and private and only those whom I invite to my home should be there, not those who just feel like dropping into my life especially strangers telling me how to live my life and how I do everything in my life wrong because I am not doing things their way.
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@crimsonblues (1191)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I dont think I would call them salesmen, but I know what you're talking about. You should post a sign on your door saying tresspassers will be prosecuted or no solicitating.. If they knock you can have them arrested - they wont bother you anymore.
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@HolyMosesMalone (415)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I wonder how these organizations can afford this...i like the way you refer to them very funny :P
@nowment (1757)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I agree they do not pay, the people to do this, they tell them it is required of them to fulfill their goals.
There are some of the communities that don't allow this, while I don't like the community living as I don't want someone telling me how to paint my house, of mow my lawn or whether or not I can put up a flag, the idea that they can block this type of things is a big plus.
One of the things I find saddest of all, is that there was a woman who had a great paying job, was doing well to take care of herself, was so well off that often instead of doing laundry when she didn't feel like it would go to the store and just buy new clothes.
Then she converted, and only works part time a job that doesn't pay enough lives in one room in someone else's home so she can do her "ministry" of going door to door.
How is this helping her? I agree she shouldn't just do her laundry but hey give the money to charity etc, now she is struggling to survive all because of this.
She thinks it is the right thing to do.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I know about those people, they are called Jehovah's Witnesses.
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@nowment (1757)
• United States
2 Mar 07
As I said it was the middle of the day but since I worked nights the time they arrived would be equal to arriving at 3 am for someone who worked days. No one actually came at 3 am.
Some are Jehovah's Witnesses some are Mormons. Though the Mormon's do this less than the Witnesses.
@emiliano75 (680)
• Italy
1 Mar 07
at 3 AM, there isn't religion that should allow this...But this people never sleep?
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@stellarjade (1238)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I couldnt agree more. I dont appriciate people coming to my house, pushing their religion on me. If I have any interest in a religion, I will persue it on my own time. I find it rude that they bother you at home. I even had someone stop me in a store parking lot, to give me their literature. And whats great, if you say you dont believe in their views, they expect you to sit there, and explain yourself. I dont feel I need to explain myself to some complete stranger.
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@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I know what you mean. If I want to search out a new religion I will do it myself, I don't need someone peddling their brand of religion to my door hoping I might say, "Wow, please please convert me--where do I sign?"
Let me share a little story with you on peddling religion. My family is stationed in Italy, and last summer we were at the beach in Lignano where we spend most weekends in the summer. As we were enjoying the sun and the sea, a group of people, some dressed like 'mimes' paraded on to the beach and down to the shoreline, set up a radio, and proceeded to do the most unprofessional tackiest little show for all on this section of the beach. By the way, this is not legal to do unless you seek the proper permit. So, the tacky act, which most were not even paying attention too, comes to an end. One of the men with the group turns off the music, puts his hands up and proclaims to all on this section of beach, "Your religion is wrong, you must pray and take faith in Jesus Christ and commit your lives to him."
Now, remember we are in Italy, where the majority of people are strict Roman Catholics. Then this whole group began passing out their pamphlets and intruding into everyone's relaxation time. Most people crumpled up the panphlets and said not so nice words to them LOL.
When they came over to me and my family, they assumed we were Italian (we are by ancestry), and tried to communicate to us in not so good Italian, wanting to know if they could take a picture of my beautiful young daughter to be used in their newsletter. I said in English, "You've got to be kidding, and I can't believe you would come all the way from Florida (the pamphlet said where their church was)to try and convert people. Do you not realize you are in Italy and these people are majority Catholic and already have a deep sense of spirituality?" The polizia escorted them off the beach--and they may have received a fine for what they did.
I couldn't believe that these people actually spent money to travel to Italy to convert Italian's to their new brand of religion.
@payingforschool (678)
• Canada
1 Mar 07
I have a friend who recently converted to a group that does this. I can't in good conscience call it a denomination, because to me it is a cult. However, I know that they are taught that they have to get into heaven through good works. They are also taught that if they know a truth, and don't share it with someone, and that person gets hurt because of it ... then they are responsible for that hurt. So, they think they are morally bound to share what they know as 'truth' which is why they go from door to door. No amount of being rude to them will make them stop, since they feel it is their way of working their way to heaven. They remind themselves that Jesus was similarly rejected, and take comfort in that.
So they are like a parasite or an infestation ... not matter what you do, they won't go away for good.
@cayennepepper (266)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I don't mind when people come to tell me about the Lord or their church as long as they keep it short, unless I want to extend the conversation. I know they want to share what they believe on a personal level and I am comfortable sharing what I believe with them. What I don't like is sales people who keep trying to get a sale after I say no thank you I'm not interested.
As far as working nights. Most people I know put up a do not disturb sign or no soliciting sign.
@cd_lear (74)
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1 Mar 07
I remember saying to them once when they knocked on my door in Australia, "If you're 'religion' is so good, why does it need salesmen? " They left quite quickly. I totally agree with the salesmen analogy. I'm all for freedom of religion, but no one should try to make people believe something they don't want to, however the means.
@mollylee (14)
• Australia
1 Mar 07
I think it takes courage to spread the word of the lord. I believe the traditional churches have made money and posessions their God, and those who go door to door go with the best of intentions. I'm sorry your dogs are disturbed, but just think, when you are lying cold in your grave you will never hear the doorbell ring.
Get a sign and put it on your gate. This will let those well intention gospel spreaders know that you and your dogs do not wish to be disturbed.
@stibigirl (291)
• United States
2 Mar 07
See thats the thing, I am disturbed, even with a sign, there are some people that just have no sense of anothers privacy. The point is that if I needed a religion I would go out and get my own, there is no way that I am going to believe something that is just brought to my doorstep in this intrusive manner.
Another good point was made before that if a religion is great it does not need to be sold to people. I am sorry if anyone believes that these people are anything but rude, but coming to MY home and trying to invade MY privacy and MY space...well I guess I just have no tolerance for those that are either illiterate and cannot read the sign I have or are just lame and don't really think that what they do is solicitation.
@cari_lewis (21)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I totally agree. I don't see why those people think that knocking on doors are goin to help. And I so know what you mean about gettin the dogs settles down. Hell you have to do that before you even answer the freakin door.....lol But really they have knocked on your door at three in teh freakin mornin? Ok that's when i would call teh church and complain.....lol
@feralwoman (2199)
• Australia
1 Mar 07
Yep, I agree. I have irregular hours and I just don't care any more - I answer the door with me jammies on! It seems that no matter how well hidden you are, these religious intruders will find you. We had a couple of jehovah's witnesses a few years back. A man and woman, very smartly dressed, walk down our gravel 150m gravel drive in high heels (lol her, not him!). She was wearing a long flowing skirt and as my hubby opened the door our border collie rushed out and put his head straight up her skirt! Man, did I laugh or what! Talk about divine retribution, it was priceless. We have not seen those two since! But alas have still had others. lol
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
1 Mar 07
When it comes to Jehovas I have found my way to get rid of them. My grandfather belongs to them, and since I told them That even he has disowned me they have never returned. They are now not allowed to even speak to me... *hehehe* They are the only ones ringing the doors here so now I am safe =)
@wepay2 (346)
• Australia
1 Mar 07
ask them to wait a few minutes (politly) call the police and report a disterbance and strangers at your door who will not leave, go back to the door and wait for the police and say loudly 'i have told you to leave ! oh good here are the police'
they will very quickly learn NEVER to come back to your house again!
@lisado (1227)
• United States
1 Mar 07
We often have this happen with the guys with freezers in the beds of their trucks that sell meat. Drives us nuts! And they don't want to take no for an answer, either! I generally end up practically shutting the door in their face. I smile and say politely that I am not interested. If they keep talking I shut the door on them. Leave a menu on the door or mail me a flier but don't come by my house and nag me! I hate it! They always show up at the worst time, too. Dinner is on the table, baby is crying, I'm on the phone or something. I need to put up a "No Soliciting" sign on the door. Since we live in military housing they aren't supposed to be here anyway. There are signs posted at the enterances of the complex but they do it anyway. We call the office if they're still open and they send someone over to make them leave. They always come back, though. :(
@sensesfail (2251)
• India
1 Mar 07
I hate 'em too but later realized that they don't get a penny by doing this.They just want to preach so that people might be on the right side.They just wanna get people to God.So please don't be harsh on them.They are humans just like us.