Where do you draw the line?
By lovesfreedom
@lovesfreedom (1245)
United States
March 1, 2007 4:08pm CST
I am curious about this. At what point do you draw the line between disagreeing with someone's view and personal attack. If you don't like what someone else says or believe as they do, is it ok to ask them if they are stupid or tell them there are hospitals for people like them?
I am asking, because I have seen this in some responses today and just thought, at what point does it go from your difference of opinion to a kind of belittlement.
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41 responses
@tarsadawn (350)
• United States
2 Mar 07
It's ridiculous. People can't even have a discussion anymore without calling names. I just ignore, turn the other cheek.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
You know, you and I have been friends for awhile now and we pick on each other alot, I think that is different.
I agree with you, it is rediculous.
To be in a serious discussion and say hurtful things because you don't like then stand the other takes is just wrong.
A few days ago, I pointed it out to someone that had done this, and he realized he was wrong to do that and apologized. I really appreciated that he did that.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
1 Mar 07
I would never belittle of devalue someone's opinion of view, I am a strong believer in respect, everyone has their own way of dealing with stuff, dealing with life, just because someone chooses to do something different doesn't mean they are in any way wrong, it's their choice. We all have the choice to be the way we are and to think differently, that's what makes us all humans, if we all had the same opinion, life would stop turning and be utterly and totally boring! Telling someone they are stupid or resorting to underhand tactics of insults achieves nothing but putting backs up, there's no call for it at all.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
1 Mar 07
You are so right! Some tactics are underhanded and maybe said for a lack of anything else to say.
The differences in us all is what keeps life interesting.
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I've responded once to a man that was thankful for all of the things in his life including the cancer that he was blessed with.
My reply started out, "you are sick" this could have been considered a personal attack, I went on to explain that the cancer was not the will of GOD at least that is my opinion.
GOD is pure and holy, cancer is the result of many things, and most probably pollution in our environment.
So as for tolerance we need to grapple with what tolerance is, today we are either accepting the behaviors that we don't agree with or we are accepting that people have been misguided and taught to do things that are vehemently wrong and they are still people but what they do is wrong and we need to teach them differently.
The cause for concern is from the written scriptures which contradict morality making everything acceptable and not being clear and consice about what is right from what is clearly wrong.
Using the word as a double edged sword doesn't work, we have to knock one side down flat and make a wedge to divide the good from the bad.
That is why I say we need a new text and that religion needs to Evolve...
We need a text that includes other religions and pulls out all of the good bringing everyone together for a future of peace.
We need to know the Will of GOD...
Evolution of Religion, the blending of Science and Religion. All beliefs come together as one...
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@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Insults and name calling definitely. I don't see why people have to insult others. It's happened to me on several occasions. You can even try to be nice and you'll be insulted. If you're not insulted, they'll call you names. Both of those are definitely not the thing to do. It happens a lot here on mylot and someone needs to do something about it.
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@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
2 Mar 07
It is sad. What's even more depressing, is that these very same adults had the nerve to call me ignorant and uneducated and several other things, all within the same post. If you ask me, them calling me names, and insulting doesn't look so great on their end. Just makes them look ignorant themselves.
@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
It is really sad when adults resort to this. Add to the discussion, do not make fun because you don't agree. I am sorry you have had to deal with this personally.
@carlaabt (3504)
• United States
1 Mar 07
Sometimes I think that people belong in hospitals or are stupid when they don't agree with me. :) But I would never actually tell them that. You aren't going to be able to change their mind to see things the right way (i.e my way LOL) by attacking them. The only thing you can do is let them know the way you feel and why you feel that way. Usually people aren't going to change their minds on something they feel strongly about, though. But I do let my opinion be heard, but in a nice way.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I let my opinion be heard, I just can't see resorting to that sort of thing. There is no reason to put someone down. And your point is very good about changing minds, it seldom happens. Many of my friends and I agree to disagree.
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@charms88 (7538)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
I personally received such responses in some of my discussions. But I'm too decent to even stoop down to their level. I wish I could say "back off, buddy" or "you re not welcome to participate in my discussion." But we know there are a lot of crazies here at mylot too... sorry, but this is what I notice. You can either report those people to mylot administrator or you just forget about them. Either way, we will still see those rude and offensive responses in the coming days.
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
2 Mar 07
disagreeing with the subject is the difference,
what is the subject is alright,
who is the subject generally is crossing the line.
example: what is the subject
I disagree with your views on the advocacy program (subject) because I have found several instances where this system has worked.
who is the subject
example: YOU (subject) are an idiot
You (subject) don't know what the heck you are talking about ....
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@gloria777 (1674)
• India
2 Mar 07
I just avoid people who intentionally attacks personally whenever a dispute or disagreement occurs. If I feel that he or she is going to degrade me personally, then I just clear off the place.
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@babyjane (1390)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
If you don't believe what other's might says or post, there is a comment portion right? Tell him/her you didn't like his/her idea. Mylot is an open community. Opinion matters with this site. It was not good to keep on saying you agree with him/her when you don't actually did.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Oh this is so true. we should express our opinions and be honest about them.
@jackie_mmm (886)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
i don't really mess with people as much as possible. But if it's personal attack, it's hard not to react one way or another. Politeness is necessary in this situation. If one starts hurling slights and belittlement my way,I will definitely give him/her a dose of her own medicine. It's not always right to let everything roll off one's back.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
This is true, I do believe people have a right to defend themselves when attacked personally.
@ellijah (244)
• Nigeria
2 Mar 07
hi,
u see every one has is own philosophy of life .some one might be telling u the truth and u might get upset and say that it is a lie. some one might be advicing u the wrong way and u might think he is telling u lies.well the point to draw the line is in your mind.only u can really figure it out for your self.no body can tell u.But i pray God helps u to know when to draw the line
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Good points here. We all need to know where to draw the line don't we?
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
Disagreement is healthy as long as you stick with the topic and not get personal. once a person starts bashing the other, then that's the time when things are no logner heathly and it is better for you to stir clear.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Another good point. Yes, it can become unhealthy, especially when you don't know what the person you are bashing might be going through.
@alindahaw (1219)
• Philippines
2 Mar 07
There is really nothing wrong with diagreeing on the opinions of others as long as you stick to the topic and do not really start bashing the person. I think that once the person starts to make you feel uncomfortable, then that's the limit.
@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I agree, different opinions can make you think, it doesn't mean you change your opinion, is food for thought.
@crazylady (470)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I am on a yahoo group, where one of the members posts some argumentative topics, and tho opinions differ we are all respectful. I think its neat, even when someone has a different opinion or stand on a subject...to know why. We all come from various backgrounds, and have different things that affect our decisions.
To me its like buying a car. I know people who hate Chevys or hate Fords....because of a past experience. But I don't think either is necessarily wrong even tho I may have a different opinion. I bought a lemon chevy and don't care for Chevy's now- myself. The dealership was not a pleasant experience, so that added to it. I had bought a lemon Dodge years ago, but because I got wonderful assistance from the dealership- I love Dodges.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I like your example there, makes it make sense.
just a note:m I like chevys lol, but I love my little mini cooper!
@margieanneart (26423)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Name calling in anyway, is mean and immature. So, I think that is wrong for any reason.
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@meljessxena (2315)
• Australia
2 Mar 07
theres no way i could say something like that to a person, i could dis agree with them heaps but not go to that extent and say that. everyone has their own beliefs and thoughts and the world would be boring if we didnt.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Thank you and it is good that most everyone who has responded feels this way. We can disagree, but show respect.
@p0tterific (73)
• Pakistan
2 Mar 07
just express ur opinion and dont argue with anyone coz an intelligent person wont need it and stupid wont take it
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Oh a good argument can be fun under some circumstances, just don't get out of hand and show disrespect.
You made me laugh with that stupid won't take it remark, I have never heard that lol
@CarlHalling (3617)
• United Kingdom
2 Mar 07
We all have disagreements of opinion, but as I see it, agreeableness is always the best policy. With very close friends and relations, it is perhaps acceptable to contradict, but it is always best to try and see the sense in another person's argument, or failing that, remain silent, and then quietly express one's own opinion once they have finished speaking.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Very good observasion! That is the respectful way of handling it!
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Telling a person that they are stupid or there are hospitals for people like them is a personal attack. If you dissagree with someone does not give you the right to be rude.Mylot is a great place to voice your opinion, and learn about opposing views.But you can't learn where someone is coming from if they just call you stupid just because they dissagree with them.I have given a possitive rating to opposing views because I learned something or they were well written.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
Excellent! I too give the postive ratings regardless, there is nothing better than an intellectual discussion where everyone has their own point of view. I also like the crazy discussions that make me laugh
@happymomndad (1035)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I have noticed in my discusions to that I will ask the opinion of others then those who do not agree with the majority are ataced. I think it is a total disgrace ! We are most of the time asking what others think then some get angry when thoughts are other than thier own. It bithers me that these people also give negative marks for being honest and saying what you think. Personaly if you respond to me with an honest heartfelt answer you get a plus, I asked your opinion, you gave it, so what if I dont agree. EVERYONE is aloud to have thier own thoughts and opinions no matter how different they are from yours ! I love that people here are free to state thier thoughts and belifes I just wish more others would be accepting of diferent views.
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@lovesfreedom (1245)
• United States
2 Mar 07
I agree, and I do not give a negative rating to those who have different opinions than my own either. I appreciate their input.