Global warming

Thanks for responding. I guess time will tell the tale.

Of course, that is if this is going to be a problem. It might have happened no matter what man did or didn't do.

the problem with leaving time to tell the tale is by the time the tale is told it's basically to late. mother nature doesnt work as fast as man. we humans can throw money and manpower at something and fix a mess in months if it is small enough or caught early enough or years if it is to big for months. mother nature generally takes decades to fix big problems, and years to fix the smaller ones

No, a few radical liberals started the rumor in an attempt to get back at big business. Liberals are against big business (they actually hate it) and prosperity in general. Global warming will affect every living thing to some degree. So will the next ice age when the earth rebalances itself. Who will the liberals blame for that? Yes, liberals are smarter and think outside the box. Funny thing how they want to put everyone into the same box, so that everyone has the same low level of living standards. Share and share alike because I am too lazy to make something of myself, so give me part of yours since you have worked harder than me and I deserve some of yours. Liberals=victims. Yes, many republicans are morons. I don't want them telling me how to live my private life. Good call. Sorry to hear that your glaciers are eroding. So what? Does this prove anything other than they are melting? I agree that the earth is warming up somewhat. I think there are far to many other possibilities for that to happen that DO NOT include man's activites. Radiation, gamma rays, the sun, natural wheather changes, even variations in the galaxy itself...who knows? You admit the earth does have resources. So just what is your plan as far as using them? Because if we do use them toward the betterment of mankind, then they will cause pollution. I admit that in the US we waste a tremendous amount of resources. And we are lazy in most cases when it comes to cutting back or preserving them. I seldom eat steak. I don't care for it. I don't own a cell phone and never have. I do love turkey, but eat it only a few times a year. My house is very small for one person. I do want to build a log home, which is about the greenest kind of home you can build. I don't live in Texas and no nothing of the superhighway. Not all studies come to the same conclusion. There are people who don't buy into the global warming hype. All the proof is not in your favor. Bush is a politician like any other who will never tell the truth. If you find a politician that does always tell the truth, please let me know. Yes, we consume too much oil. But that is a copout to blame the politicians. It is, after all, a personal choice. No politician forces anyone to use more energy than they want to. Sorry, but I am not an raving consumer of thing I don't need. I turn off the lights and alliances I am not using. This is a habit with me. I have turned my heat down to 60 in the winter and the a/c to 80 in the summer. I do eat less meat than I have in the past. I have driven less than 10,000 miles over that last 2 years. But I don't care about the future. It is totally unpredictable. The only time I have is right now. I have cut back on energy usage. I absolutely deny that global warming is man made. I will never support the liberal view on anything. I refuse to let republicans tell me how to live. Now, I can't speak for anyone else. How far back toward the stone age do you want to go? What is the reason this planet has bountiful sources of oil and gas? And just exactly how am I affecting your children's future? I am assuming you are one of those smart liberals that knows the future. So tell me exactly what is going to happen. And don't quote no silly computer model that says the end is coming. I am sorry if I am living in the US and if I am somehow spoiling your life in Austria. I would love to visit your country some day. I have never heard anything bad about Austria. It has to be a splendid place to live. I am doing what I can to make a difference. But it has nothing to do with all the hoopla about global warming. And who will you blame if we find out it is out of our control? I don't blame anyone for anything. That is a game for liberals to blame everyone else.

so liberals have nothing better to do than "getting back" at big business? that's so funny. How do we get from taking care of the planet to low living standards? Driving a Hybrid or a car that gets 50 miles per gallon instead of a Hummer is a low living standard. Having to walk a few feet to put recycling in it's proper place instead of the trash is low living standard. Wearing your clothes for 2 days instead of just one isn't low living standard either. Share and share alike works for Austria. We have universal health care, nobody goes without doctor's care. If you somehow lose your job and your legs or whatever, the government will catch you and help you and your family. I think percentage wise we pay about the same in taxes but college is almost free for everyone who qualifies. It's just in the US the taxes are wasted on wars and the space programs and pork barrel spending instead of programs for citizens. You talk about your steak and your cell, and your heat. You are not the problem, it's the rest of your country. The US as a whole is wasteful, I saw this firsthand. You have 4% of the earth's population and you produce 25% of harmful CO2. Many many new homes here are solar powered. People get incentives, tax breaks for building passive houses, which are environmentally friendly. Politicans could most certainly encourage people to build more solar, more energy efficient homes. You talk of choice, Americans are so big on choice and freedom and the threat thereof. I wish just once you free people of choice would talk of RESPONSIBILITY, but now it's all about what you should be free to do. With all your choices and free will to waste, you are choosing to bring down the planet. You talk about it being a liberal issue. Global warming affects everyone, regardless of political party and it's sad that you don't care about species becoming extinct, that future generations might not see a polar bear or tigers or whatever. It's sad that you're willing to let beautiful creatures die, just so you can drive a hummer and have 25.000 Christmas lights lighting up your house for the season. You equate giving up a little something for the good of the planet with living in the stone ages. Can you only think in extremes?? What you can't see the gray areas?? I don't expect Americans to just walk, or to live by candle light or run around in one set of clothing. There is a middle ground here. You can have a nice life and still care for earth. Not everything on earth is here just to be used up by man in one century. You yourself may not be the one to harm my children's future but the thinking of your entire country, this let's have fun today no matter what the cost attitude of America is harming the environment. Unfortunately the US is very large and you have 300 Mill people in it and what you do as a whole affects the rest of the world. Austria is very strict when it comes to the environment it doesn't allow many chemicals to be used. But our lakes are full of poisons brought in with the winds and the rains and we are greatly affected by other countries use of chemicals. We all live on the same planet and we should take care of it. The US just cares about itself and rights and freedom bla bla bla. I just wish it took responsibility as well.

Yeah, you got that right. I think that ice age thing could be here sooner than later. Sorry Al Gore, but you will be looking pretty silly when that happens. This hoax will be worse the the Y2K thing of 2000.

Good point. There is no need to waste energy because it is abundant. And certainly no need to polute the earth with irresponsible actions.

Well I suppose that we never did have to use resources and we could have stayed in the stone age. The fact is that this planet happened to be created with fossil fuels along with man. The only way we could have progressed this far is through the purposeful use of energy, including oil, coal and gas. This is how it stands so far in our evolution. Eventually we will probably sustain ourselves with energy from cleaner sources. I think there is a polution problem in the world, created by man, but way overblown. Is not the world made up of other countries and people other than us? I see nothing wrong with interacting with them on all levels, including trade, and trying to create improved conditions for all. The people in China are only trying to improve their standards of living, like most of us in the US. We want to sell our products outside of the US and can we not expect other countries to want to do the same? Pollution problems can be overcome and they can be prevented. China and the other Asian countries will learn this in time, I hope.

It's not all black and white. I never said don't use any resources at all. But people, should be more responsible about using the resources. I've lived in the US and saw how people just don't care, they toss it all in the trash because they're too lazy to recycle. They drive an hour just to eat in a restaurant. I think the US people leave twice the eco foot print on this earth than us Europeans. I'm not saying we're perfect here but dumping ONE bag of trash costs 6 Euros. In California we took a whole truck load to the dump for 7 bucks, and that's nothing for most people. We have 1 trashbag ever 6-8 weeks because most everything is recycled. And recycling is made so easy, there's bins everythere, stores have machines that give you a receipt for your pay recycling and they take it at the register when you pay. in CA recycling where we lived was a huge hassle, no pick up at the house, recycle center hours were limited and so on. Or we had to drive 30 min to drop it off at the dump. Your government is in the pocket of big business and so they can pollute all they want. People drive Suburbans to commute for 2 hours each way. Everything has to be bigger, faster, more than it really needs to be. And that's not responsible. Most people here hang dry their clothes. I have a dryer, yet I never use it unless I my husband's work clothes aren't dry yet by the time he has to go to work. We're not perfect here either, but we try. We grow our own vegetables, many people do here. We ride bikes almost every day, weather permitting. The kids take public transportation to school. But many people in the US don't try at all to do something for the environment. You all feed 80% of all the grains you grow to cattle who are pumped full of hormones and antibiotics just so you can have a 99 cent burger. Fast and easy is what it's all about eh. And because you are such a huge country, you do a lot of damage. And yo are not a poor country, like some in Asia, you could easily do more to keep this planet in shape....

I really don't have anything against liberals. I just do not like socialism. I guess you could say that I identify liberals with Democrats and socialism. This does not mean I am a republican either. In many cases, they have some strange ideas too. I don't think that the government is smart enough to control the weather. Look at the IRS and how complicated that nonsense of a system is? The weather is a million times more complicated. If the gov can't create a simple understandable tax system, how can they even begin to understand the weather? Maybe I am off base here. And I have no proof that you are wrong. Thanks.

Thanks for agreeing. I don't know if I am right or wrong. That answer will probably come in 50 or 100 years, well after I am gone.

I completely agree with your assessments. The liberals are always for more taxes to solve every problem. Taxes solve few problems and create more poor people. More taxes will never fix anything, and neither will more socialism.

Thanks for the detailed response. It is great.

That figures. I can't wait until they discover the hoax that this really is.

Yes, it may be ending, but why worring about it.

Oh, I think that indeed the earth is expereicing some sort of warming. I am not sure of the causes. I think it is more of a natural way or process that the earth goes through climate changes over time.