do we have to believe in God to be moral?

@marzenna (253)
March 3, 2007 11:37am CST
There has been some fantastic experiments that shaws that we do not have to be religious to have moral behivour. What do you think?
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3 Mar 07
Moral behaviour comes from culture. Good moral in India may be treated as an orthodox behaviour in western countries and a moral behaviour exceptable is west may not be good in easter part of the world. However, all religions teach almost the same ethice of love and freindship. No religion teaches violence. All are same.
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@marzenna (253)
3 Mar 07
Thank you for you responce. I do however believe that moral behiviour is independent on religions all together. I do agree that there are some diferences in customs and faced with difficult moral questions all humans respond the same no matter if they are religious or not, or coming from different countries. I will post some of the experiments later. At the moment I have to go and take care of my family.
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
3 Mar 07
I do not believe that religion is necessary to have morality. I base this observation on the actions of people I have actually known. There are many people who are moral but not religious, and you often cannot tell by the way a person acts whether they are religious or not. If they are religious, you can't know which religion they are by their morals. I'm a pretty good example of this, because people often guess my religion wrongly by the fact that I behave in ways they see as moral. Moreover, even when people change religions, their morals often stay the same. I have known people who went through many different religions in their lives, and continued to behave in much the same way outwardly throughout these changes. What is right, the ways in which we feel we should behave, are largely the same in all religions. Whether you act a certain way because God says so, or because you feel it is in the best interest of yourself and humanity as a whole, or because you truly just wish to, it's all the same.
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@marzenna (253)
3 Mar 07
Yes I do agree. It is in us, no matter what you believe in. There have been studies compering the moral answers of religious and non religious people. The results were nearly the same!
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@steerpyke (396)
4 Mar 07
Religions tend to contain many rules and guides to live a better and morally acceptable life, however they are not the only way. Many non religious individuals are able to develop their own high stanadard of morality, morality is after all a sense of what is right and acceptable and what is not and anyone woth half a brain is able to work out the difference. It could also be argued that the blind faith in, and the strict application of religious codes can also cause people to be intollerent of each other and therefore create problems. The bottom line is the nature of the individual and not the religion that they chose to follow.
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@marzenna (253)
4 Mar 07
Thank you for taking part in the discussion. And for being very taktful towards religious people. I also think that religious or not, we have our moral system and can distinguish between good and bad. If you have time please read my responce to danvino . I quoted there an experiment that has been statisticaly documented and that support our argument for human being.
@lillake (1630)
• United States
3 Mar 07
Not at all. There are many people of various religions and athiests who do not believe in or worship the Christian god, and yet thate moral people. Morals comes from your inner understanding of right and wrong.
@marzenna (253)
3 Mar 07
Exactly. I also know many moraly very sound people who do not believe in any supernatural gods and many who are not very moral. I also know many people who behive very egoistic and at the same time are religious and people who are moraly a sample ofr me and believe what I do not.
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@mikekire (146)
• Nigeria
3 Mar 07
It is really a matter of discipline but God will make it have a meaning. When you believe in God and have good morals, it gives it a meaning.
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@marzenna (253)
4 Mar 07
I absolutly do not mean to insolt anyone but I do disagree that religion or believing in god/gods and following the doctrine makes us more moral. What about the story of Abraham making burnt offering of his son? Or Abraham laying that Sara is his sister to spare his life twice: in Egipt (Genesis 12: 18-19) and Gerar ( Genesis 20: 2-5). Or in Judges, chapter 11, when the Jephthah made bargain with God that, if God would guarantee victory aver the Ammonites, Jephthah would sacrifice whatsoever come to meet him after the fight. And it was his daughter!!! How moral is it. There is abviously a lot of very good moral guidlance in the Bible. The only point I am making is that the religion itself is not a source of morality. Unless you are choosing what to follow and if you can choose...why do you need to follow anything?
@cielo_22 (38)
• Philippines
8 Mar 07
although some religious group help many people change their way of living its not necessary to belong in any religious group.even you`re in a so called religious group if you dont practice your church doctrine its still useless.morality comes from deep within,its your understanding and doing what you think is right or wrong. only god could know what thr real sense of morality.
@marzenna (253)
9 Mar 07
Well according the the survey I quoted in response I it is not dependent of our believes. The atheists respond in moral terms as the believers do. And they do not believe in any god/gods.
@Zmugzy (773)
8 Mar 07
The immediate answer is that being religious does not determine one's moral behaviour. For example, the terrorists that flew the planes into the World Trade Center were very religious people but lacked morality on a grand scale. However, the difficulty is in trying to define morality. You can't just say it's a difference between right and wrong because one person's 'right' can be another person's 'wrong'.
@marzenna (253)
9 Mar 07
I absolutely agree with you. The only thing I am saying is that our morality (right or wrong) is not coming form believing in God. If we need to feel that we will be punish of rewarded for our morality in order to be good...we are not really god. We just are affreid.
@mikekire (146)
• Nigeria
3 Mar 07
Faith in God is not all about morality. It entails wholesome love for Him and total commitment to Him. If your purpose of beliving in God is to have good morals, then something is missing. Morals is one of the attributes too.
@marzenna (253)
4 Mar 07
I completely agree. And in no point I am condeming religion for bad of good. The debate was clearly only about the moral question.
• Malaysia
8 Mar 07
Firstly we must know why God's create us all. God creates us for us to become his servants, and that the main point of why He creates us. But only a few human worship God as it must be. There's no God but Allah, and that must be our firm faith :-)
@marzenna (253)
9 Mar 07
HMMM. Allah or not...you are missing the topic of the debate