Quick Question...Need an Answer ASAP! Please!

@MsJessi (423)
United States
March 19, 2007 7:30pm CST
Ok, my 9 year old gets a packet of homework on each Monday...and is to have it done by the following Monday. More than enough time right. Well, for those who saw it, I posted a vent post about my son having so much trouble with his homework, so last week, he didn't get it all done. His teacher tells him, (according to him) that if his homework is not turned in by the following Monday, then she will not grade it. Here's my question: Should I make him finish it anyway? Turn it in anyway? Even though he won't be graded for it? Cause, that's what I've been doing today, and the reason I'm doing it is because I want him to start showing that he can try! That's his biggest problem, is he doesn't want to try and I want him to show himself that he can, me and his teacher. Is that right? Or should I just let him stop and start on this weeks homework and forget about last weeks homework, since it doesn't matter anymore? Thanks! :)
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
20 Mar 07
I think it's very unfair of the teacher to not grade it at all. She should have some type of partial credit system like 3/4 credit for one day late, 1/2 for two days... I think I would arrange a conference with both the teacher and principal. If he's getting discouraged with the amount of homework he has then it's too much. He's just a little boy. Having him do last weeks anyway is probably a good idea but since it won't be graded make sure you're giving this week's work priority. He might be feeling overwhelmed when he sees the whole big packet. Each week when he brings it home, sit with him and divide it out into smaller groups and assign a night for each group. If he can see a small amount of work versus the whole packet he won't be so discouraged by the amount and he'll gain confidence in his abilities as he completes each night's work. I really disliked 3rd and 4th grades. 5th was better but just over the past few weeks my daughter's started struggling again. I think these teachers forget that these are still children. But he is YOUR child so if you aren't satisfied with his education you have every right to discuss it with his teacher, the principal, the school psychologist/guidance counselor even. Good Luck!
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
20 Mar 07
That's a great idea to use folders. Thanks for adding it. I think I might have to try that with my 5th grader too.
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• United States
20 Mar 07
That is a really good idea to divide out the homework. I have one thing to add, maybe get some folders, a different design or color for each day/night, to keep the homework organized. Also have him pick out which homework will be easy for him and which will be hard. Have him work on the difficult assignments first, that way when he gets to those that are easy it will fly by!
@MsJessi (423)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Yea that is all a great idea. I think I will pick up some materials for that the next time I'm at WalMart. I think seeing only a little bit of homework would benefit him. He is a lot like me and is a visual person. Often, I'll see a HUGE mess and I'll get overwhelmed and panic a little...because of the size of it. lol.
• United States
20 Mar 07
i think you are doing right by making him finish it. yeah, hes not going to get graded on it, but at least he will learn that he has to try his best to finish the packet so that next time it WILL be graded. now he is learning that he is putting a lot of effort into something that is pointless, if he had finished it all the first time, he could have seen some kind of mark for it. plus, if you let him slide by not finishing this packet, he might get the idea that he can keep doing this. he probably wont finish his next packet, knowing that he can get away with making no effort and not having to pay a price for it.
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@MsJessi (423)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Yes, that's what I'm trying to explain to him. That it's all about trying and giving it your best effort. That's where he struggles. It's hard to find what motivates him because he's already had his tv/xbox/gameboy taken away.
@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
20 Mar 07
Do not start patterns you do not want to continue, Yes make him do the home work irregardless. He needs to understand that he is obligated to complete something on time, it is a part of growing up and it is called accepting responsibilities for your actions. This is some thing every person alive needs to know and do. we see a lot of people who do not and we have to deal with their messes every day. You are raising an adult, not a child, for the time being he must be made to toe the line. and good on you for recognizing that fact,
@Joslyn77 (374)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Yes, I would make him finish it anyways and turn it in. I would also call or write a note to the teacher asking her to look at it anyway because you are trying to teach your son responibility and what it means to get an obligation done. I hope that helps. Good Luck. I also have a son that does not like doing homework.
@MsJessi (423)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Yes, thank you. I have a parent/teacher conference scheduled for Thursday, so I will definitely be discussing with her then what we need to ALL start doing to help him with his school work. Thanks so much!
@Connie1013 (1098)
• United States
20 Mar 07
I know how you feel. My 9 year old is a third grader. He is not at his level but he is still a 3rd grader. He has trouble with homework. Has he been eveluated for any problems? I wish I could tell you that I figured something out but I didn't. I bought a phonics set and he loved it. He can't get enough of reading and spelling now. Good Luck at your parent teacher meeting.
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• Canada
20 Mar 07
Is capable of doing the whole packet before Monday? If he isn't capable then maybe you should talk to the teacher. If he is, get him to hand it in on Monday and suffer from the lower grade, it is better than not getting a grade at all. He is kind of young to really understand the importance of good grades for the future but maybe if you give him incentives/rewards that will help motivate him.
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@MsJessi (423)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Yes, well, usually. He can if he wants to, but that's been the problem with him lately. We've been working on being more positive in our approaches to achieve confidence in getting things done, but he is really struggling. Thank you.
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
20 Mar 07
I would not force him to complete it. I would just let it slide. This time of year it is hard enough to get kids to do their work with Spring starting, let alone getting them to do extra work. I don't know if you kid is the same way, but mine is still feeling the effect from daylight savings time.
@MsJessi (423)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Well, sure, I suppose I could give him even more excuses to use to add the excuses he uses already as to why he can't do his homework. But daylight savings time isn't one of them, as we don't have that here. There is no time change, we are mountain time. His problem is he's always lookin for the way out, because he never wants to face things. That's what I'm tryin to work on with him.
@vhansen (2029)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Children need to learn responsablity and the importance of finishing what they start.Yes,I would indeed make him finish it.I know,he's a little boy and can think of a thousand things to do besides homework but it must be done.The only way I could get mine to do thier's was to make them do it first,then play or whatever.They threw a few tantrums but mommy's rule got them through school.;-)
@Mecboy (1050)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Well, if its late. Most likely the teacher would grade it. Maybe a slide like half credit. I suggest you help work on this weeks packet. Im in high school. Best you get this weeks packet done, or else this question will pop up again next week. Good Luck.
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@jchampany (1130)
• United States
21 Mar 07
I think what you are doing is right. Not only to prove to himself that he can try but you don't want him to get into the habit of "oh well, I don't have to finish it, why should I even bother." You want to teach him that he has to follow through on things. Also, if he realizes that he has to finish it anyway, he might try harder to get it done so that it will get graded.
• United States
21 Mar 07
make him finish it and write her a letter assuring her that you understnad it will not be graded but that you wanted him to finish the work any way and you never know she may just grade it. I think this is a good way for hiom not to give up and you made the right decison so way to go mom
@Lavera1 (896)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Did you talk to your son's teacher, MsJessi, to find out if she says that about not grading is homework if he doesn't turn it in on time. And yes you should make him finish it so you can encourage him to be a responsible person and not try to get out of his responsibilities my whining and complaining to you about it.
• United States
20 Mar 07
I would make sure he gets this weeks packet done first and foremost. Once the current work is done, I would have him work on the previous missed work until he gets it done. Even if it takes him a couple of weeks, then I would grade it yourself or ask the teacher for a key. He needs to learn what was in that homework, it was given for a reason, right?
@MsJessi (423)
• United States
20 Mar 07
Yes, and it's all stuff he knows how to do, because he did the other pages (similar work) last week. And he's had that same kind of work the week before that he got done. Like I said, it's just a matter of him putting forth the effort and that's where he struggles. It also takes a lot of patience on my part and effort as well, and I've been trying to show him that you can do that if you want to, but he just doesn't want to.
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20 Mar 07
I would get him to do it and discuss your concerns with his teacher. If the amount of homework was a problem then other parents will be having the same complaint. I would get there a little early on thursday so you can have a natter with the other parents!
@sanell (2112)
• United States
20 Mar 07
I think it is important that he still finish last weeks paperwork or homework but I think he needs to get the work that IS or WILL be graded done first, and try to turn it in ALL at the same time. That will show him that he needs to not procrastinate becuase if he does then not only will he not get graded for only half work done, but now he has caused himself more work that has to be done, in order for him to even get graded at all... I think it is good that you are making him finish what was started on last week.... Anyway, good job, also I would probably focus on sitting with him if you can to make sure that he gets his homework done...either check in on him and tell him that even though he still has Sunday to get his homework done that from now on, you will be asking him on Saturday what it is he has gotten done adn what still needs to be done. If Saturday AM he has ALL of it done for turning in on Monday then he can have a fun day planned for the weekend or maybe some sort of prize or special something, whether it is he gets to go to a movie or maybe play a favorite game or whatever... But if he has not completed all of it, but did get some of it done, well good kudos but he still has to get it all done for tomorrow....I would not take anything away but at the same time remind him that he needs to get the rest of it done, the sooner the better for his sake.... If he did not start on any of it, I would basically tell him that he has to sit in his room and get it done....no going out, no movies no nothing until it is done... This way he learns about consequences too....if he does well he will get praise if not then he has to deal with the turmoil of it all... Good luck with that
@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
20 Mar 07
I was wondering if you have considered a learning disability. Sometimes they come out as if the student doesn't care or won't try but the truth is they don't understand or find it hard. I have a learning disability that went undiagnosed until I was in grade 12 by then it was to late. Everyone thought I just didn't care. If that is not the problem then I would look over the packet and lay done a schedule for him to follow. so he has it done on time, if not then he finishes it and gets it in to the teacher graded or not he can't quit. A talk with the teacher on how he is doing other wise and what she thinks should be done is in order here also.
@missybal (4490)
• United States
20 Mar 07
I would make him do it anyways because he shouldn't be allowed to just give up and I think the teacher is wrong for not encouraging him to do it. I think if he is really having problems then the teacher should realize this and give him more help not give him an excuse to give up by telling him his work won't matter anyways.
@mzserena (29)
• United States
20 Mar 07
I would start on the new work first, that way that won't end up being late as well and run the same risk of not being graded. IF there is time, then work on the old work. I would also talk to the teacher to confirm that what he says is true.
@jean_rose (415)
• Philippines
20 Mar 07
Since this homework is not going to be graded anyway, it is my humble opinion that it will not be done anymore. You and your son will only be wasting precious time and effort. You and your son's teacher are right to encourage him to believe in himself more but oftentimes, it is more than simply just a case of children not believing in themselves which cause them to do less in school works. It could also be that they have other diversions like computer games or dvd's which, of course, are more interesting than answering all those homeworks. Try to see what you can do where these diversions are concerned. As a mother myself, I also have this problem, but my child is a girl so, she's much easier to handle. When our tv set broke down, I did not buy another one which diverted her attention to books. She could not surf the web all alone. I have to be there to monitor where she surfs. She can play computer games, but only for an hour or so and she can't play everyday. Good luck, my friend.
• Canada
20 Mar 07
I would make him finnish it and turn it in anyways, because it shows him that even if things get tough, you can't just abandon them. I would definately put the focus on this weeks homework though, so that it is done and complete to be marked on time for monday, but I would also get him to work on the past due homework, because I am not sure how it works there, but even if he gets a 0 on it he should have to hand it in because otherwise it is an incomplete, and incomplete means failing the grade because you didn't do the work. That is how it works here. Good Luck and God Bless!