Problem with homeless people

@soccermom (3198)
United States
March 20, 2007 11:33am CST
I was looking out the window at work earlier and saw a homeless man pushing a grocery cart full of junk down the street. I told my mom (she was working today too) and she got up to go look. Where our office is there's not generally any homeless people. She looked and told me to come help her because he was getting in her minivan. I thought she was kidding with me but she wasn't. Neither of us wanted to approach him so I told her to hit the panic button on her key cahin, to which she replied "I can't! I left my keys in the van." We left him alone, it appears he just wanted to sit in her van and roll a cigarette. My 2nd cousin was found dead a couple weeks ago, drowned in the river, and she was homeless. Which I still can't figure out how she ended up that way. Anyway, my mom says she has a problem with homeless people, she doesn't understand how anyone can end up homeless. Honestly, i have never thought about it, I've just taken it as a fact there is homeless people and donate to homeless services when I can. Do you have a problem with the homeless? Do you shun them for the way they exist or do you try to help them?
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@bethmt (419)
• United States
20 Mar 07
No, I don't have problem with homeless people. Honestly I think they are the same as everyone and I don't see them as anymore potentially dangerous than non-homeless people. The big difference though is that they've fallen on terribly hard times and just need some assistance and a leg up. In the nearest city to us there is a larger proportion of homeless people now and the consensus among the mental health community is that it's because there is less funding for mental health services and for other social services. Those who are most vulnerable, the elderly, children, and the working poor are getting hit hard in this state because of cutbacks in medical funding, food stamps,WIC and food bank programs. Plus the cost of rental properties has skyrocketed over the years. A lot of people just can't keep up either because they are on fixed incomes or their wages don't match the costs of their basic needs. The reasons for being homeless are probably very long but can include catastrophic medical costs, layoffs, loss of a spouse and the other things that I listed above. Many people live from paycheck to paycheck and struggle to support a family while dealing with the rising cost of living, costs for medical care, insurance,taxes and all the day to day costs. Anyway, I know that was a long answer but no,I don't feel any resentment or fear toward the homeless.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
21 Mar 07
A very thoughtful, well written answer! Thanks for your response bethmt!
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• United States
20 Mar 07
I used to be homeless also, when I was a teenager and also in my early twenties. Even now, I am usually one step away from being homeless again! although there are many homeless people I knew who were addicts or even just lazy, there were tons who had become homeless due to horrid life circumstances. Once around Christmas there was a lady in the shelter with three children, two who were older boys and one who was just a baby. The shelter closed at 7:30 am and you had to just hang out for twelve hours... It was really cold out and because it was really close to Christmas... I think it was Christmas eve... everything was closed. The library and everything. And the baby was crying because he was cold and hungry, and the mother was trying to keep him warm but she was cold too. There were also a lot of young people who had been in foster care and after they turned eighteen, they had no place to go and didn't really know how to live on their own yet. There were a lot of people with mental illnesses who couldn't work and who had no family to take care of them but because of their illnesses they would refuse to be in any sort of treatment center. There were a lot of people who had gone through a lot in life and just couldnt function because it had messed up their brain so badly... like Vietnam Vets, and people who had survived horrid child abuse. One guy had been locked in a toy chest all day every day by his stepfather for years. It would be awfully hard to live a life like that, and then tturn eighteen and just go get a job and live a calm, ordinary life!
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@soccermom (3198)
• United States
21 Mar 07
Thank you for the insight angelnicki. Your story leads me to wonder how come the shelters kick you out during the day, our local one does too. Why can't they use the facility to organize workshops and stuff to allow the people who want to be helped to get it? Especially those with small children. This really bugs me. Why are we not doing more to help victims of abuse and mental illness?
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• United States
24 Mar 07
Some shelters do stay open during the day. The one I was at was just a shelter that was set up every night in the basement of a church, and they had to kick everyone out during the day so the church could conduct its usual business. Eventually, after I was gone, they did create a day center where people could eat lunch and hang out during the day. But when I was there, there was no day shelter! Even now, on weekends and holidays, the day shelter is closed!
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@magikrose (5429)
• United States
20 Mar 07
You know I was a homeless person because my former landlord decided to be an a$$ and kick out my husband, kids and myself because his cousin needed a place to go. We lived in a motel for a bit then since it was summer time we went camping. It is not easy especially when you are dragging arround 4 kids. We were finally able to get into a shelter but then we were there for 9 months trying to save up enough money to get an appartment, and as it was at the time I had to take my only son and hand him over to my mother because for 1 he had to start school and my mother was within his school destrict and for 2 all we could get was a 2 bedroom appartment just bearly big enough for my husband, myself and the 3 girls. yes my family is among the few fortunate enough to know where to turn for help when we needed it but other homeless people may not know where to turn there for they end up as the person you saw outside. You dont know his history, and what put him in that situation in the firstplace. The best thing anyone can do is offer them a hot meal and point them in the direction of a shelter where they can get help.
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
20 Mar 07
I'm sorry to hear about your cousin. I don't really have a whole lot of problems with homeless people, but I do not understand how the government can let alot of these people go homeless either. Some choose to be homeless because they just do not want to try to better for themsleves. I do not understand that at all. Some of them scare me because they lurk around and dig through trash and get in vehicles like what you just said. We used to live in an apartment complex and this homeless man used to push around his shopping cart also and he would go through the trash dumpsters. How can anyone in their right mind do that? How could you eat something out of there? He used to scare me todeath because he was dirty and scary looking. I do feel sorry for some homless people who just became homeless and want to do better for themselves but they do not have any help to do so. Alot of them, I will never understand how society can let them go homeless and why some of them just choose to not work and to not better their lives.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
21 Mar 07
I appreciate your answer steph, but I think I may be misunderstanding you, so don't get upset if I sound harsh. Your last sentence puzzled me. Of course some choose not to work, but I think the majority wouls want a job and some normalcy in their life. What most lack are education, job skills, and most of all an address! I have not heard of one employer ever hirng someone digging in their dumpster. We need to not only help the homeless with shelter, we need to help them with job training and life skills in general.
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• United States
21 Mar 07
I eat out of dumpsters all the time - and I have been homeless before. Shops throw out food that is still good, food that hasn't even hit the expiration date. Pizza places throw out whole pizzas in boxes. Fresh produce from grocery stores. Bags and bags of bagels. I mean, it's not hard to tell if food is bad. At all. Use your nose and your eyes. The worst thing you're going to get from eating out of a dumpster is a bad smell on you from climbing into it, and that washes right off. Some people don't choose to be homeless because "they don't want to better themselves" - in fact most people who choose to be homeless do NOT do so for this reason. It's normally for political reasons - like someone realizing that the government is able to do whatever it wants to through the money it gets through taxes and deciding to fully remove themselves from that. The homeless dudes who push shopping carts tend to be either crazy, junkies, or some sort of a mix of the two. The cool homeless dudes you probably wouldn't even know were homeless unless they told you.
@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
20 Mar 07
I don't have any problems with homeless people and I admire as well as envy them in a way. They live a more natural life than I do and they are certainly more free. They are free. We are not as free as the homeless citizens of USA. I would love to take the time out of my life to live on my own or with family in the wilderness as it once was. I think it would be a good experience. I don't know about living in the streets but that is their choice. There is wilderness every where. Full of food, shelter and medicinal plants. That is their fault having to beg for money. Unfortunately I might not ever get to do such a thing. I am obligated to pay taxes. So I am not free as they are.
• United States
20 Mar 07
They say that we are all just a few steps away from homelessness. The reason for this is because so many people live pay check to pay check. Throw in some big bills, crisis, divorce, a problem of some sort and even a normal person can become homeless. People who have families to help them and lean on are so lucky.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
21 Mar 07
The problem that I have with the homeless is people saying I don't have a problem with the home but have a problem with the government not helping them. Why must the government do every thing for us. Why can't we help each other. Whar are you doing to help the homeless. I know I don't do as much as I could. I'm not in any position to help them. Do you won a business? Could you give one of them a job? have you volu nteered to go to a homeless shelter to teach or taken any thing to give directly to them. No I don't have any problem with them as long as someone else takes care of them.
@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
21 Mar 07
I dont have a problem with homeless people untill they start begging for money then I dont like them.
@gbolly54 (661)
• Nigeria
21 Mar 07
It appears that there is no way some people will not be homeless at one time or the other for one reason or the other. It is the stark reality of this unfair and uncaring world. From the other point of view, it is a result of how some people have chosen, knowingly or by accident of unplanned complications, to lead their lives. Whatever the reason may be, a humane society has a duty to lend a helping hand. Shelter should not be an item in the realm of "the survival of the fittest". After food and, probably, clothing, shelter is the next basic necessity of live. All civilized peoples of the world have a binding duty to actualise "shelter for all", no matter how rudimentary. Otherwise, we would not be worth the civility and religiosity that we have outwardly professed to possess. Governments, organizations and wealthy individuals have their roles to play in this direction.
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@fpd1955 (2074)
• United States
20 Mar 07
The plight of the homeless is a sad, sad thing in this, the richest country in the world. Most of the homeless do not choose to be in that precidament. Some are mentally ill and for some reason cannot or don't get the help they need. Some have lost everything due to financial problems. The young ones usually have left a bad environment at home and have no place to call home excpet the street. Even the shelters they can utilize are not safe for them. It is true that too many Americans are just one paycheck away from being homeless. I have a real problem with our government not making them one of their priorities. Yet, we jump to help out the foreign countries and their people. We cater to immigrants that come to this country and forsake our own citizens. I don't truly think that 99% of homeless choose to be that way. They have special circumstances that have forced them to try to survive on the streets any way they can. I do donate material things, such as food, clothing, shoes to homeless people. If I ever win the lottery, I want to have a safe shelter built, the size of a shopping mall, where they can come. I would personally oversee it and make sure they are treated properly. This may be a dream, but it is one I will never give up on.
@soccermom (3198)
• United States
21 Mar 07
That's a wonderful dream. I think my mom needs to sit down and read the responses to this so far. She has an issue understanding how anyone can be homeless, and even though I've tried to explain it to her she just doesn't get it. And our government doesn't do nearly what it should for our own citizens, you're right. It's sickening the amount of homeless people that are veterans, these should be the last people that we let suffer!
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@fpd1955 (2074)
• United States
26 Mar 07
Thank you so much for giving me the best reaponse. I am still dreaming.... God Bless
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@xu530923 (28)
• China
21 Mar 07
Nearly in every city,exually big cities,we call see many homeless peaple.and there are more around the trafic hinge. I have a involuted feeling about them .They are pitiful,Of course.But,sometimes,I want to known,why they can't find a jod,and a place .While most of them are handicappeds.As a Chinese adage says,telling sb fishing is better than giving sd fish.
• India
21 Mar 07
i don't have any problem wih homeless people.I try to correct them by telling them that you are in such a position.if they don't understand there situation were they are lying then i simply tell them "that's your fate try to understand about you".
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@c2adams2 (351)
• United States
24 Mar 07
I cannot shun them. There are honestly some things in my life that may cause me to become homeless. For example, if I lost my family for some horrible reason, I don't think I would care anymore. Just a thought!
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@ErnestR (23)
• Philippines
21 Mar 07
Anywhere in the world, you can find homeless people. They suffer subhuman existence. They have lost all hope and depend on welfare or help from somebody. Some of them blame the society for their plight, some just blame somebody but they have not seen the fact that they have chosen that life. As long as one is alive, there is hope. We can help them in some form like donations or anything, but it is dole out, after we helped them, they will be waiting for another good person to give them something to eat. We are actually condoning their laziness and hopelessness. I hope there would be a foundation that will cater to programs to help these people regain their hope.
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@Jshean20 (14348)
• Canada
21 Mar 07
I don't think it's fair to put a label on a homeless person anymore than it is to put a label on pitbulls, everyone has a different case. Of course there are some homeless people out there who could indeed help themselves, get jobs and live like most other people do, but not everyone is capable. Many homeless people have physical/mental handicapps which prevent them from getting jobs or even trying. It's so sad when people only feel for those with physical handicapps, when really a mental handicapp is just as severe but not as obvious.
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
21 Mar 07
I used to be homeless due to situations that were happening in my life, and due to Escaping an Abusive situation, and it is one thing I really would not want to wish on anyone, and feel unless you have walked a mile in their shoes, you will never understand why they are where they are now. Sometimes it was due to Abuse, or maybe due to they could not make ends meet, and had no where to turn, and then some do it by choice, and are sometimes Millionaires when they die. Honestly with every situation, no two are the same, but I feel you are doing a disfavor when you choose to ignore them, because you need to stop and think, "What if that was me, and no one wanted to help me out." Yes, there are the scammers, and the ones who really have Homes to go home too that just try to get $$ from others, and then there are the ones who could use their help. Maybe it is time we just all try to reach out to them, and find in them a friend. It could never hurt.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
21 Mar 07
I used to fall for all the people at rest areas on the road till I found out they worked it like any where else and made more money that I did and paid no taxes on it
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@limosonia1 (1559)
• United States
21 Mar 07
I have a soft spot when it comes to the homeless and try to help out. I know a lot of them have lost so much and it is not all their fault. Some granted controlled there own destiny but others just happen to never be able to get out of the downward spiral. I am greatful for all I have and if I can give just a little to make somebody else greatful then why not.
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• Canada
21 Mar 07
I don't have a problem with homeless people - if they are genuinely homeless. Thats the problem with Vancouver these days. there are a lot of people who have a home, yet would rather sit and beg for money because they can't be bothered to get up off their a**es and get a job! My partner told me a story about a friend of his from back when he worked in Windsor. One of his work buddies told him that his mom and dad had just bought a new house. Instead of working, they went out on the streets panhandling, and they made enough between them to pay their mortgage every month! Talk about shocking. On the other hand, a friend of mine was out for dinner with us one night. There was a whole group of us. What he didn't eat he asked to be bagged so he could take it home. As we left the restaurant, a homeless guy held open the door for us in the hopes of making a little bit of something. I offered up the change I still had in my hand and my friend gave the guy the rest of his dinner. To see this mans face when my friend offered his dinner made my eyes well with tears. As we walked away I hugged him and said "Don't ever let anyone tell you differently, you are a good man!" I try to help those that I know are genuinely homeless. I find that I can spot the fakes a mile off, because they're too aggressive in the way they act. Those ones I shun.
@NatureBoy (493)
• Singapore
21 Mar 07
There are still some homeless people around. Sometimes I look at them and feel :why cant these guys get some work? Some of them are partially too old for jobs, or too lost to be doing anything. I sometimes wonder why would their families or relatives let them just roam the streets like that. But seriously, there is not much I can do. I'm with a charitable organisation in my free time, but still there are limitations to what can be done for them. I can only hope that they will pick themselve up and get on with life in a better fashion.
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