One religion for all?.......
By Force_Fed
@Force_Fed (745)
United States
October 18, 2006 5:50am CST
Following the thread "how can i chnage my relegion?"(sic) I was promted to think about different religions being mutually exclusive. Concerning Christianity and Islam, it was stated that if one is correct then the other must be wrong. Being agnostic myself I am very interested in the differences between Faiths and what drives people to believe these things.
But humor me for a minute. For now I will suspend rational thought and say that the God you 2 speak of really does exist. Isn't it possible that He gave 2 serperate people 2 seperate messages? What I mean is, He spoke to the first Jews giving them a specific message that they needed to have in order to get Out of Egypt and into the "Promised Land" Then, seeing another group of people who didn't have or hadn't accepted His previous Word, and, having pity on them, gave them His Word according to their needs? It was nessaccary for them to understand the importance of Jesus, but not to the level of Him actually being God Himself. I would think He would give his message according to the peoples' ability to understand and accept it. If He knew that for whatever reason the Muslims would not be able to grasp the concept of Jesus being a living God, well God himself for that matter, telling them so would take away from the core message. That message being love and co-existance among His people.
God, being omnipotent, may use whatever means He chooses to keep His people in line, and how dare you even question those methods or his motivation!(something I learned from my Grandma was not to even ask those types of questions)
I mean the fact that Muslims accept Jesus as a very important prophet raises certain questions. First being, if Islam were the only true religion, why would it even mention a man already the basis of a totally different religion?? Is it mere plagerism? Or could it be the Muslims were given exactly enough information they needed?
I have more to say on this but I know people will only read so much at one time.
Force
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@deeds14 (815)
• United States
29 Oct 06
First, let me say that I'm a Christian (unfortunately, some people have already decided if they will give my comments any merit). I have thought about this a lot before, too, because the two religions pray to a higher power, and what if we're praying to the same person? But I don't think that is the case, because in the Bible it says that He is the only one true God. I think it would have explained that He could come through in the form of different gods, if that was the case. The Bible's message is accessible to everyone and was written for everyone to read.. I don't think that the message is out of a Muslim person's reach and so He decided to give them another religion to follow.
I'm interested in the part where you say that He can use whatever means/methods He wants to and that we shouldn't ask questions. I guess I have a whole different view of God, because the Bible shows Him to be merciful and loving and desparate for us to know Him.
I'd like to hear more of what you think about this!
And by the way, it's nice to see an actual intelligent discussion on this site!
@Force_Fed (745)
• United States
29 Oct 06
Thannk you for your input. Question, you say the Bible states He is the one true God. Do you not believe the Judeo-Christian God is the same as the Muslim God with a different name? I thought it was universally understood they were one God, just worshipped differently.
As for not asking questions, ya I've heard often "our's is not to question" and "He works in mysterious ways" as explainations for tough questions. That's always seemed to be a cop-out to me. Admittedly I'm a cynical person so statements like that get to me. If somehting is true answers like that shouldn't be needed.
You say the Bible shows Him to be merciful and loving and I agree to a point. The New Testament does portray aspects of love and mercy but, and I hope this doesn't insult you, the Old Testament only shows me a petty, jealous, controling God. A God that would command one of his children to murder his own son as an expression of Faith. A God that would be goaded by Satan and to proove His power, would destroy a man's body, family, entire life. The story of Job is supposed to illustrate a man's Faith in God. I find it horrifying! It makes me wonder how a so-called loving,merciful God would do this simply to win a pissing contest with a less powerful spirit.
I know this is the past and the New testament offers mankind grace over law, but it IS still part of teh religion and needs to be taken as part of the whole.
I hope this has made sense, I know what I believe but sometimes it's hard to put into words. I have rare occasions to actually discuss religion, I'm the only agnostic I know and only have met a few firm atheists.
Thank you for your input. Intelligent discussion is becomeingslim around here. Everyone seems to want to spam lately, only a few of us seem to want real conversations about anything anymore.
I'm putting you on my buddy list so I can try and keep up with your posts.
Force
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@Force_Fed (745)
• United States
29 Oct 06
Yes I have followed that conversation. It's nice that while you two completely disagree, you are each civil and unemotional in your posts. It's a much more effective debate when people don't resort to personal attacks and respect eachothers' views.
Force
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@Force_Fed (745)
• United States
29 Oct 06
Thanks for your input. I personally feel your way of thinking is extremely colsed-minded, but you were honest. What is it that makes other religions false?
Force
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