Why blame Hitler ??
By nationalcity
@nationalcity (358)
United States
March 25, 2007 8:47pm CST
Adolf Hitler was a patriotic person. Some of his actions should be blamed but not all . He did his best to his country and did not bother about the rest. The killing of Jewess should be blamed but not his efforts of proving his countries supremacy. In fact today it is being done in a very diplomatic manner by a country. Whatever said and done, I feel he was a real patriotic person
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
27 Mar 07
Every leader is to be taken contextually. There are very few leaders whose vision and charisma transcend their own times. Hitler is not one of those leaders. Mahatma Gandhi is.
Adolf Hitler was a very intelligent, complex, charismatic person with a lot of contradictions - the hallmarks of a great leader.
His political fortunes shot up like a phoenix rising from the ashes of the Weimar Republic, giving the shattered and demoralised German people faith in themselves and the vision of world dominance. We must remember that Britain, France and yes the USA had their colonial possessions, and Germany had lost in the colonisation game.
He was ambitious, patriotic and a megalomaniac. They say - a people deserve the leaders they get. Germany of the time certainly wanted a Hitler and Hitler knew how to stoke the flames of nationalism and patriotism in his people.
All his plans went horribly wrong, his alliances came unstuck. His military calculations and strategies though initially brilliant could not withstand substained warfare. Blietzkrieg worked but that was it.
I think the world has come a lot further than the 1930's. Another Hitler will not be allowed.
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@ernestyoung (59)
• India
27 Mar 07
This is called a discussion coffechat. You have told very clearly with a logical and well explained argument that though Hitler was intelligent he was not some one to be spoken about. This is how the argument should be. You do not agree with the poster, then say that with a supportive argument rather making personal comments and becoming aggressive. When you dont have anything to say that does not mean that you start abusing !!
@eventualist (819)
• Canada
27 Mar 07
He certainly was a very charasmatic leader, that was able to have a whole rally of people behind him, but his ideas and state of mind was clearly off if he could go about the things that he did to "improve" his nation.
I do blame him for starting all this stuff since it was all from his creation, but I also blame the people that followed the man and did his bidding (especially at the beginning when he was just starting to get power, since later on you'd probably be killed for going against him).
Don't get me wrong... I don't like what happened, but I just think that there are a lot of factors that led to it, and you can't just blame one man, but several people and several circumstances led to the troubles. That's what I think anyway.
@nationalcity (358)
• United States
27 Mar 07
Thanks for the response. This discussion is closed. Request you not to respond further to this discussion. I am not here to fight and hence this thread should not be continued.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
30 Mar 07
When I think of Hitler, the closest person in modern times to compare would be Saddam.
Both ruled through fear, both murdered their enemies, and both were tyrants.
He did not care about his country, only about his individual power and about having his will adhered to.
To speak out against him was to die.
Hitler had no redeeming qualities and is someone who will always be remembered as the personification of evil.
@rdurusan (624)
• Philippines
26 Mar 07
I too don't blame Hitler. He can not do what he did if he is not back up by the big bussiness in those times.The killings of the Jews is hard to believe,and many books prove that this tale are fictions so as to make a hatred against Hitler and the Germans. Can you see what they are doing against the Arab world now is what they do to Hitler and the Germans.This is purely economic in nature and not those religious or political war they are trying to imply.Who finances these endless wars are the financiers of ww2.
@nationalcity (358)
• United States
26 Mar 07
Correct. Who else spoke about him ? It was the allies mainly. Today looking at the situation in gulf area you can correlate the two issues... 2+2=4
thanks for the response
cheers!!
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@ernestyoung (59)
• India
27 Mar 07
Well said nationalcity. People who do not have any logical explanantion or can not present themselves only can get in to such a desperate act. I am wondering why you should chnage the picture ?? If a govt. authority or a NGO has problem with it, they would tell you not to use that but not these half coocked brains. They probably do not get any use ful and intellectual topics and that desperation is thrown up here. A discussion is a discussion, every one will have different opinions, people do argue explain but not calling some one fool or peronal comments like saying "You do not have aclue what you are talking". I would say you should have changed the picture. Some dqay these half coocked brains would have an objection to your age, gender ( Though you can change the gender) what you would do then ? You are giving it up so soon ??
@nationalcity (358)
• United States
27 Mar 07
ernestyoung, you too are getting in to personal comment. I do not want this discussion to get in to a mud throwing arena. A discussion is to gain knowledge , share knowledge but not to fight against individuals. You are doing the same as the other. What is the difference. COMMON GUYS, we are not here to fight like this. I consider this discussion as closed and NO MORE responses please. If we can not have a healthy discussion its ok, but no fighting.
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@ernestyoung (59)
• India
27 Mar 07
I am sorry, I just could not stop myself. Check this members caption (roztredtoes). What else can you expect from these people It says "Dont talk, unless you really have something stupid to say" LOL. You should have presented some stupid discussion, then it would have been well apprecitated!
@ernestyoung (59)
• India
27 Mar 07
Its ok, I wont feel bad. There are many people like you in this world. When they know that they are loosing and do not have a logical supportive argument they get aggressive to save their faces. Only when a person does not have enough evidences or knowledge he will get in to this offensive mode by abusing or personal comments, talking about something else to distract (Discussion is about Hitler and response is about picture). It is natural, with all desperate losers. Do not worry, some time in future you might be able to come up with something sensible.
@ernestyoung (59)
• India
26 Mar 07
He was. But at the same time he killed so many innocents. But today America is doing the same thing and no one is talking about it. So the moral of the story is, unless you have the power and money to shut all those big mouths do not get in to patriotisem. Today America is doing more or less the same thing what Hitler did, but in a refined manner. Escpet some arabs no one else is commenting on that.
@nationalcity (358)
• United States
26 Mar 07
You said it.
Thanks for responding
cheers!!
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@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
27 Mar 07
There is a big difference. Hitler's Germany was a wannabe.
The US took on the brunt of the Cold War years till the former Soviet Union and the COMECON disintegrated. Now it is Islam's turn, because Islam's fundamental principles are wrong. Terrorist states like Libya, fundamentalists like Iran and psychotic regimes like the Taliban need to be set in order. Saddam lost the plot when he attacked Kuwait.
What do you mean?
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
28 Mar 07
Hahhaa, the US is doing the same thing as Nazis! That is hilarious. Laughable! There is absolutely no correlation! Such blatant lies...
Hitler was a bad person because he was evil, he killed innocent people, started a massive war, and was filled with hate. That is why. Regardless of his abilities as a leader, his actions and beliefs were not invented by the victors. History may have been written by the victors, but that was before modern times, not now when information is so freely passed back and forth.