Older people can be so mean
By maildumpster
@maildumpster (3815)
United States
March 26, 2007 12:04am CST
I have nothing against the elderly. In fact I feel they deserve some respect based purely on their age BUT they can be some of the nastiest people.
I am not going to point out all the ways that elderly people can be mean but I will tell you something that happened to me.
At Christmas my grandma's sister decided to tell me how fat I got. A few weeks ago a family friend I haven't seen in years decided to do the same.
My thyroid has gone loopy since my son was born. I need to get the medicine right or I won't start losing weight. They don't know why I gained weight. Regardless they just shouldn't say something like that.
We had friends over last night that I haven't seen in around 7 years. I almost cancelled just cause I didn't want them to see me fat.
So what makes old people think that it is ok to tell a person that they have gotten fat??? I already feel bad about myself and that just hasn't helped!!
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39 responses
@Tetchie (2932)
• Australia
26 Mar 07
Wisdom does not always come with age!!! Likely they suffer from lack of tact and sensitivity. Often relatives feel they have the right to comment on family members and put their reasons under the guise of 'family concern'. Why does diplomacy go out the window when it comes to family?
I have found weight to be the worse reason to feel bad about myself. I was never overweight, always a size 10, great butt, could eat whatever I liked. But it changed when I hit my forties, I turned into my mother and I'm now fighting like the blazes to fit into those old jeans! I've come to understand it takes allot of strength to deal with weight issues, not only with weight but what you think other's might think about you being overweight. Don't be afraid to tell people that their comments are not welcome, even if they are elderly.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
28 Mar 07
I know it is fixable once they get my medicine right. As it is I am just happy not to be gaining more. I seem to have plateaued.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
26 Mar 07
Thank you for your comments. I was always really skinny. Even after having two kids. Having my third really messed up my body. My thyroid has been messed up ever since and that is the main reason I have gained.
As I said to a friend of mine that was saying that my weight was not my fault "when I walk down the street people don't know that it isn't my fault, they only know what they see".
As far as telling them anything my family would have a fit. I just change the topic as quick as I can or make an excuse to get away from them.
@Abbyey (760)
• Philippines
26 Mar 07
Most elderly feels that they have more right to correct or give comments about something. I get that all the time, and its true that they hurt my feelings. I always get the comment that i am fat but what they didnt know, it that they are not helping.
What i did is i told them that they were pulling down my self esteem and that i feel bad about myself already. And they did apologized about it, because they also didnt know that what they said was harmful.
In life i always been careful of my words, because a lot of times when it is just OK with us to say it, we didnt know that to others its hurtful.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I would tell them that but they are old school immigrants and I don't think they would even understand.
Thanks for the reply. I am sure they didn't want to hurt me but it did.
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@trinidadvelasco (11401)
• Philippines
27 Mar 07
I understand the elderly better now that I have joined their ranks. We are really well meaning. Maybe we just don't come out with words which will be subtle enough for the ears of the younger generation. It could be attributed to the fact that we always have bad feelings about ourselves. Having to cope with all the body pains that haunt us day and night must have triggered this. We may be sorry that we are like this but, please give us some allowances, too.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
28 Mar 07
I still respect these people. I love them. I was just hurt by what they said is all.
I in no way mean that all older people are mean or anything of the sort.
@lauczi (962)
• Poland
26 Mar 07
maybe that's not purely because they are old but rather they are your family. as to me i got to know how old peole can be mean. but they werent relatives or friends of mine. they pushed in the queue line, they take all the width of pavement and you have to walk by on the grass, when they sit in bus next to you they acctually sit ON you, they look at you as if they wanted to kill you with their eyes.
i think in your case that's a personal dislike for you rather than mean of every old person. i think if they were younger they would behave in the same way.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I don't think that their being family was the reason. Nor do I think that they don't like me as we have never had ANY issues.
I have run into some issues with older people feeling a sense of entitlement and doing some of the things you have mentioned. I rarely have one hold a door for me but some young kids that I would never think would be polite have done so.
I don't think that old people are all mean. NOR do I think that these particular people are mean in general. I love them but I think the comments they made about my weight were mean. I don't think they meant to be hurtful but that is how it came out.
(gosh now you have me wondering if people actually like me at all since you said, " i think in your case that's a personal dislike for you ")
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
28 Mar 07
I could never reply to these people like that. It just wouldn't go over well at all.
@craftcatcher (3699)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I don't know why older people feel like they can say anything to you and you're not supposed to say anything back. I've had that happen to me too. A great-aunt who I hadn't seen in over 20 yrs and all she could think to say to me was something incredibly rude about my weight
I've noticed that my mother as she's gotten older has started saying things that I would never have expected to come out of her mouth. Not necessarily rude just more blunt than she usually is. I've given her some funny looks when I've heard her talk like that and she just looks back and tells me she's too old care what she says. Okey dokey mom! LOL.
I suppose it has something to do with the fact that most of us spend our lives never really saying what we're thinking. Tiptoeing around people trying not to offend or be rude and I guess you just hit a point when you just finally have to say what's on your mind. That's the only thing I can think of.
I would have been awfully tempted to say something like "Well I'm glad to see that we've both grown something bigger as we've gotten older, your mouth and my butt".
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
26 Mar 07
It is rude. I just don't get why they think it won't hurt.
The one person who said it to me said it like this:
"oh I see you've gotten like me". I so badly wanted to say "what I got old like you?". OF course I didn't.
I say what is on my mind too but I do try to be polite and not hurt someone's feelings. I don't walk up to overweight people and say anything to them.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
26 Mar 07
That might well be the case for some. I didn't feel they were being arrogant just unfeeling.
Thanks for your comment.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
26 Mar 07
That might well be the case for some. I didn't feel they were being arrogant just unfeeling.
Thanks for your comment.
@blade6372 (47)
• Lebanon
26 Mar 07
In my opinion, old people have had their share of life and it is time they retire and stay at home, therefore they demand our respect, but some can really be a pain in the neck sometimes since they push it too far...
But hey, this is life...
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I am all for giving them respect. For that reason I don't tell them where to stick it when they insult me about my weight.
Thanks for your comment.
@clownfish (3269)
• United States
26 Mar 07
Hi! I'm so sorry that happened to you! People just don't think that there may be a legitimate reason for the weight gain. Unfortunately, older people just seem to have a "finite" set of reasons why things happen and anything beyond that is beyond their comprehension. My grandma did the same thing to my sister, who has been chronicly ill for about the past 9 years. She was on prednisone for quite a while, which you probably know is used to treat inflammation and causes serious weight gain if the doctor doesn't help you manage your weight while you're on it. My grandma told me that she wished my sister hadn't gotten so fat. I told her that the weight was likely fluid retention and the result of being on prednisone, trying nicely to tell her that it isn't nice to assume why someone else has gained weight. I completely understand what you mean about older people. Sometimes it's really hard to see how some of them should deserve any respect! :-)
And for you, take care of yourself and do what's best for you. You are still the same person you were before, right? There's no reason why you shouldn't love yourself just as much as before. I'm sure that everyone who knows you loves you just as much. :-)
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
31 Mar 07
Thank you for your kind post. I do wish more people had read like you did - most think I have something against the elderly. When I clearly said I didn't. Oh well what can I do?
@jhartana (1084)
• Australia
27 Mar 07
There's an old saying "The older the people, the wiser they are". When I was younger I believed that but now I don't believe it anymore. I still show respect towards the elderly and I have nothing against them too. Sometimes they are wrong as well, they claiming what they have said is always correct. If I disagree then sometimes the elderly will start talking much and telling the stories bla bla bla. Well I just sit and listen and say yes yes yes. They would waste my time if I start arguing about them.
@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Yeah I don't waste my time arguing. It isn't worth it.
I still give the elderly my respect and will always do so.
Thanks for the comment.
@raphael_volts (1131)
• India
27 Mar 07
Some times these oldies just judge you on anything without for a second caring why you are, how you are and how their judgment will affect you. I do feel that elderly should be respected but I seriously Don't feel that this gives them the right to say whatever pleases them just because they are old.
Sometimes they turn out too nosy and so we just should know about ourselves and keep working to where we want to go or else if we keep on listening to others comments then we will surely go down.
Take Care
May GOD Bless YOU
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Thank you very much. I strongly feel that the elderly deserve our respect; but as you said that doesn't give them the right to say hurtful things. Regardless, I would never disrespect them in return to try to teach them something (as some have suggested I do).
Oh well I just joined Weight Watchers online so maybe by Christmas I won't have to worry about hearing such things again.
@hoghoney (3747)
• United States
27 Mar 07
I know how you feel about some older people. I have a lady that is about 70 something that I deliver the paper to and she will call the office sometime and tell them that she didnt get her paper and I know that she did but I will go back toher house and get it for her she just does that because she dont want to step down 2 stairs and pick it up and we put it on her back porch. but it is mean that they say that about you. some people just dont know why some gain a bit of weight and they look at big people as if they eat everything in the world
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Yeah some can just be nasty individuals. I think they were always mean (like my mother in law who now has alzheimers so now she just says whatever) but when they get older their brain to mouth filter stops working.
I know they didn't mean to hurt me by calling me out on my weight gain. Regardless it did hurt and I just wish they never said it.
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
26 Mar 07
Ok, I am certainly not saying what these "elderly" people said is right but I must defend the "elderly". I know a lot of elderly people, a good share of my best friends are elderly and none of them would ever say something like this to anyone. So, saying "older people can be so mean" is like saying "all young people are mean". I also know a lot of young people that would, have, will say the same thing but I also know ones that would not.
I say - PEOPLE can be mean, rude, thoughtless, but some people can be kind, considerate, nice.
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
26 Mar 07
Thank you, Faith. That is exactly what I had in mind to say. It is always dangerous to generalise, whether we are talking about race, nations, age, occupations or whatever. There are good and bad in every category. There are rude and nasty or polite and nice in every category.
I am old but many young people come to me for advice. In the children's ministry in which I work, I have found that the elderly are so very well accepted by the children. Being old doesn't necessarily equate with being grumpy.
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@dlkuku (1935)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I've known the sweetest elderly people suddenly turn nasty. It's usually due to health problems/and or medications.
But I so know how you feel. When I was 19, I had given birth to my second child, a mere 17 months after my first was born. My new baby was three weeks old and we went to a family reunion. One of my great aunts felt that she needed to approach me and tell me that I had gained a lot of weight. I was really hurt, and offended. I wanted to yell at her that I just had a baby, what did she expect, but I bit my tongue and walked away instead.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
31 Mar 07
Well I don't think that is the case - they didn't suddenly get nasty. They were very "sweet" when they spoke; it is just what they said was hurtful. I know they didn't mean it.
I am sorry someone insulted you right after giving birth. Congrats on the baby by the way.
@motherof35108 (192)
• United States
27 Mar 07
like the saying says for some families the older people have been around a lot longer and they know the right from wrong or so they think. they also do not understand what they say really hurts the other person.
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@margieanneart (26423)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I have given you a ++ rating for your post, as I want to see you keep your stars up.
I must say that I am sorry to hear this, but, it isn't because "old people" are mean. If they are mean, then they always were insensitive, as young and middle aged. It isn't becuase they are old. I'm old, and I would never say anything hurtful like that, or anything else to someone to hurt or be rude to them.
Wishing you a happy day, and don't forget to rate "best resonse" to someone that answered with concern and thought.
Bless you,M&M
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
30 Mar 07
I wish I had never posted this. I did not say that old people ARE mean. I said they can be mean. (I did NOT mean that young people can't also be mean!)
I only mentioned that they were old cause no one younger than them has been so insensitive to say something like that to me.
@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I here you and I think that every family is like that. And the older ones are the worst whatever they are thinking it comes right out of their mouth. Ive learned not to take things to heart as much any more. I dont think they mean to be nasty thats just the way they are.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
28 Mar 07
I am quite sure that they didn't mean to hurt me. They just did. I already feel bad about my weight and to have them point it out the way they did really struck me!
Thanks for your reply.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
26 Mar 07
I am really sorry someone was so rude and insensitive with their remarks to you. However it has nothing to do with age. It depends on how someone was raised. I am one of the older people and I would never dream of making such a personal remark, I have more class than that. I have also put up with very rude and mean remarks from the younger generation.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
31 Mar 07
I am only mentioning the age because none of the people younger then them (and that includes aunts and uncles) have made such a comment.
I agree the younger generation can be quite rude. There is no excuse.
As I said in my OP I still respect elderly people no matter what they say.
@Denmarkguy (1845)
• United States
26 Mar 07
Growing up as a young person in a very "old" family (my dad was the youngest by 14 years, and my parents didn't have me till their 40s), AND having had a 90-ish relative living in the house for several years, I understand what you're talking about.
My observation is that (and I'm not saying this is a "right" thing) many elderly people seem to lose their "social filters" as they age. And it doesn't just seem to be limited to "crabby" people... it's just as folks age, there's no longer as much "filtering" between "what I THINK" and "what I SAY." I believe we all THINK the same... inside... but at some point the "inner censor" that keeps us from SAYING "Holy cats, why have you gotten so fat?" just disappears. I have seen this in my mother (who's 85) in the past 4-5 years... she didn't just "become" a bit of a racist... it's just that she started blurting out thoughts she'd probably HAD for all of her life. I am not sure WHY. In some cases it's senile dementia, Alzheimers and the like... but that doesn't always explain it.
I realize that probably doesn't HELP you, exactly... but sometimes understanding how a person's mind works as it ages makes us able to take the "blows" more lightly, when they come.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
28 Mar 07
These people are not crabby. I think it is a matter of their filters not working. I never said that old people ARE mean jus that they can be. Regardless of why, they just can be.
I have dealt with Alzheimers and am actually now dealing with it again with a different person. Even knowing someone is sick doesn't always take the sting out of things they say.
@stacy624 (2776)
• Canada
26 Mar 07
WOW i am sorry for your condition, You know it really bothers to hear such a aweful thing that is the most rude thing anyone can say to anyone. Try not to let this person(s) bring you down, for you know the reason to your condition and understand it was not in your control. We all experience something in our lives weather its weight, dieases, ect. Put your head up kiddo and dont let people like that bring you down its so not worth it to yourself (health and Mind wise) or your family
Best wishes
Stacy
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
28 Mar 07
Thank you for your kind words. I know that they didn't mean to hurt me. I have just noticed in my time on this planet that older people tend not to care what they say to people. They often think they are being helpful when they are being hurtful.
@rajeevabc2000 (44)
• India
26 Mar 07
I have a different opinino about the way you are handling the things. You are taking the things more seriously. Noone is perfect everybody has got one or the other habit/feature which can be pointed out to make fun or at least teach them a lesson. For example you could have easily told your gradma's sister in the response to her comment. "thats true i became fat but i am enjoying this new looks and whenever i will decide i will lose my weight". But i think you are also looking too old and the wrinkle's in your skin are further making you ugly". And i am sure after this she will never dare to make a comment like that to anyone.
Similarly you could have picked some feature of your family friend to comment. The key to the problem in not getting annoyed and frustrated but take it lightly and each them a lesson so that they won't dare to make that sort or comment to anyone else in the future.
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@maildumpster (3815)
• United States
30 Mar 07
I would never say anything rude to these people no matter what they said to me.
I respect them too much to do so.
Like I said I just change the topic and move on.