Everytime you open your mouth, something stupid comes out
By lacurandera
@lacurandera (335)
United States
April 1, 2007 4:58pm CST
I'm sure you all know this kind of person...the one you might be able to stand if they just didn't talk? there's an old man who comes into my place of business and he talks about how important it is for a woman to know how to clean and cook. He's in his 70's, and while I respect his age, he's an ignorant old man and I wonder how he managed to grow as old as he is without getting the sh*t knocked out of him.
There's an old man on mylot like this, and i had the misfortune of stumbling across one of his totally repulsive discussions about "women's roles." I tell him he has outdated ideals and he tries to justify his ignorance by backing it up with his Christian beliefs. If i was Christin, I think this guy would embarrass me, would be an insult to my religion. it seems like all he wants to do is bash how other people live. he doesn't start discussions, he monopolizes the conversation with his overbearing opinions. AND, he normally only responds to your comment if he has the opportunity to say something snide.
Why can these sorts of people not accept that not everyone believes what they believe? Why do people think they're going to convert me and make me conform to their ideals?!?!?!? And what's up with the women bashing thing? Is it just the result of these chauvinistic men growing old and feeble in a world they can no longer control? They can't stand women to be in any position of authority...this guy actually said that it decreases a woman's femininity is she is bossy or if she is "the boss" (as in, at the workplace.) I wish he was close enough to me-- I'd knock him upside the head.
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18 responses
@XandraBeast (27)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I have known a lot of people like that. It makes it hard to be optimistic about life and the world in general. Truthfully, I think those sorts of people have just chosen to stop growing and learning. So they get stuck in whatever ideas they have, unable to see anything outside of that idea or ideal. There's not much that can be done for them either - learning, growing, and expanding is a choice that each individual has to make. No one can force them to be better people. I'd say unfortunately, but if it were possible for people to force each other to accept their ideas ... well, we probably wouldn't even be able to have this conversation in the first place. The only solution that I have found any kind of usefulness out of, is to ignore those people's comments, and to teach by example. A lot of those folks lose a lot of wing when no one responds to them at all, hehe.
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@lacurandera (335)
• United States
1 Apr 07
Yes, I only responded to one of his discussions, and I won't be responding to anymore...but I read a few others just to see how far gone he really is.
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@bobbyjoe143 (1287)
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1 Apr 07
these men most likely had over run mothers who did as they were told all the time, thus growing up believing that all women should be this way, and of course if any woman disagrees with these notions, they are wrong, because they are "only women" and know nothing!
you will never change a chauvinist, same as they would never change you.
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@lacurandera (335)
• United States
1 Apr 07
Lol, yes, I don't wish to reform them...I just wish they didn't pollute my airwaves. Or anyone else's, for that matter.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
1 Apr 07
He he. When I first read your headline and your first few sentences, I thought you were describing me to a "T". But, when I read on, I could definitely say it wasn't. First, as I am a woman, I would never say that. He sounds like he's from the old school.
I can only guess who you are talking about here on Mylot. I think I've narrowed it down to one or two different people. Some people just say whatever they want without worrying about the consequences. It is an anti-social behavior. On a website, I'd bet they feel that they are even more anonymous, so they are more outrageous than they are at home.
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@lacurandera (335)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I just feel sorry for the women in these people's lives...their wives, their daughters....how terrible would it be to have a husband or father who constantly degrades you and tells you that you should be nothing more than a housekeeper and baby machine? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with doing the dishes or having kids...but there's more to life than that.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I just saw the tag and I think I know who the Mylot person might be. I stopped answering his discussions because his responses were confusing. I couldn't tell if he agreed with me or not. He seemed to be both praising me and putting me down at the same time. So, I just ignore them.
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@lacurandera (335)
• United States
1 Apr 07
lol..yeah. I don't answer him anymore but my bf likes to give him the run around.
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
1 Apr 07
I know who he is. I like replying to his discussions because he will answer. LOL. I have him trapped in a corner right now. I asked him a question with a question mark and he is trying to go around it. He might THINK he is smarter than a woman but he isn't smarter than me. LOL
I am waiting for his reply because he is on right now. I seriously doubt he will reply back to me. He is vague in his opinion to me and I can easily slay his one sided theories. Actually he makes it more fun for me.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
1 Apr 07
Yeah, I think I know who you mean. He seems to both praise me and put me down on the same time. I stopped replying to his discussions because I don't understand his comments on my replies.
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
1 Apr 07
Yes. If they are talking out of their behind they don't stand a chance.
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@lacurandera (335)
• United States
1 Apr 07
Lol. Yeah, if it doesn't bug the heck out of you to read the ignorance, it is fun to watch them run around in circles, isn't it??
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
1 Apr 07
So this guy mentions religion and god in the discussion now he is saying it is about cohabitation and not Christianity.
If you chase a rat. It will run.
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@coolseeds (3919)
• United States
2 Apr 07
This guy said he didn't bring up religion then I copy and pasted it. Then he admitted to it. LOL.
Then I had to copy and paste my first response that he totally ignored and has not responded to. Which is below.
""If you live with someone YOU WILL KNOW if they are right for you. If you don't think so please explain because your theory is ignorant."
That is the basis of my response to your discussion. If I ask questions it is only polite if you answer them. It isn't a discussion if you don't answer questions. "
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@lacurandera (335)
• United States
1 Apr 07
Can't blame him for tryi9ng to get you off his back, can you? lol
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@sumofalltears (3988)
• United States
2 Apr 07
Some people just can't stand to be wrong, and they can find a perfect circular arguement for most everything, but the problem there is a circular arguement just means you are lost but making great time. I don't know whom it is, but maybe I will run across him at some point in time...:}
Older people are generally set in their ways and resistant to change, my parents were prime examples of resistance to change. My mother keep her rotary phone until her fingers could not dial it anymore. Nevertheless age is not an excuse for rudeness, and even if someone is rude to me I generally play it cool back to them. Losing your cool can sometimes make you look bad.
Maybe this person is lonely and has discovered that he can produce interaction with his rude responses. Just a thought.
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@sumofalltears (3988)
• United States
2 Apr 07
Ignorance is still ignorance, but maybe a little tolerance will ease the burden. Maybe with less beligerant responses he may tone down some. But as I said I haven't seen this person myself, so I am only guessing.
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@lacurandera (335)
• United States
2 Apr 07
Thats' a good point. I work with the public and deal with a lot fo older people. And they are lonely. and bored. and wish that people would listen to them. i feel kind of bad that seniors don't have much of a place in society today...as in, i think most of them feel lost or useless. I did kind of envision him as a lonely old dude trying to connect with people online. I even think that his comments may be less to elicit responses from naysayers and more for attracting like-minded people. It's still obnoxious...but I guess I have *a little* more compassion for him now that you've made me look at it that way.
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@dad1444 (69)
• United States
2 Apr 07
hi,
are you sure he is who he says he is?
im 63,and dont know any older men who would talk about women this way.
but,i dont know everyone in the world so,if he exists,take him for what he is,an old man who dosnt like people but finds he cant live with out them.
he dosnt know how to be considerat of outhers viwes,on woman hood,or probubly anything else.
dont be upset,or become like him,accept him for whst he is and show him the way to the old folks room,Ron
ps,,there are some people who do,and say things to provoke an argument,for points dont fall into that trap.
@aradia (68)
• United States
2 Apr 07
i feel your pain. that would aggrivate the hell out of me. but it's not worth it. i know who i am, and i know what kind of "role" i play in the life of those around me. i'm comfortable with it. i like being who i am, and i like my life. believe me when i say i understand how upsetting a thing like this can make you...even though i like my life, hearing something like that puts me in a bit of a foul mood, regardless. even though i know it's ignorant and chauvinistic it still bums me out. but you have to remember...he lives his life as a man who grew up when that was all okay. it's all he's ever known. and even though it seems ridiculous to us, think back to those times. go watch "mona lisa smile." it was a completely different era...a different world back then. and while i'm a firm believer that ignorance is no excuse, and it's not, i understand it. yes, he should realize that men and women are seperate but equal. he should, and he doesn't. i pity him...i pity him because he will never know anything beyond what he sees with his own two eyes.
my best advice is either a: take a stand and join the picket crew against injustice and chauvinism, or b: try to let it go. it is what it is...people are ignorant. if not him, then someone else. unless you're prepared to fight the world, you'll have to let it go.
i wish you the best of luck. keep your chin up...:)
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@ellijah (244)
• Nigeria
2 Apr 07
Hi thanks for your post.Alot of men dont know that things are changing everyday so they go about the old idea which they have about women .in those days women are people who are seen to be at home cooking ,cleaning the home and taking care of children while the husband will go to work to look for money but these days it is not like that .i know that my elder sister husband help my sister to cook at home some times he help her to clean the home and do some other things.my elder sister and her husband are working in different company.that is how i am going to do to when i get married very soon.i am a christain and i believe that they man and women should complement one another in everything they do at home or outside the home.the woman was created as a help mate for the man and not a slave.these days men respect women alot who are working for such women help to provide food for the home too when ever the husband money get finish for the month. you know the world is changing everyday and the world economy is getting to something else so family need more money to survive.please domt get angry with this guy you wrote about here any more .He said so just because of what he knows.
@acquaria (719)
• Italy
2 Apr 07
The discussion about "woamn roles" usually take out the worst part of the men character who don't accept the emancipation of women.
I work with colleagues almost men and every day they try to insistl me their ideas.Sometime I answer to them ,but the most of times I leave them to speak and make "yes" with the head and I give them reason.
There is a sentence : "you always have to give reason to the stupid persons"
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@rubenlicera (141)
• Philippines
2 Apr 07
That's how the system works.
Some believe that they know everything and those who go againts their belief is an enemy.
These people are stupid themselves for not knowing the thoughts other people have why they think otherwise.
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@nietske (199)
• Belgium
2 Apr 07
I know a lot of these people. Have you tried using really big words? mostly they don't understand what you are talking about and will have the funniest look on their face. Just ask him waht the impact is of the ego on the multicultural society as an ideal. Just watch, it really works :)
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@sherry_navilla (420)
• Slovak Republic
2 Apr 07
well, all i can say is... there are still male chauvinists around. we all are persons entitled to our own beliefs, but we shouldn't try to persuade or insinuate other persons into believing what we are saying. i pity people who fall victim to those kinds. they really don't know how to handle pressure. and the men doesn't know how to change.
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@onabreak2 (1161)
• United States
2 Apr 07
I think I know who you are talking about and I can almost guarantee you he only starts his male chauvinistic discussions to get people to comment on them. I wont. As long as he can rile people and get them to respond and fill his pockets he will keep doing it. I wanted to write a comment to him but I wouldn't for that very reason. He has obviously gotten to you. Don't let him. That way he is the winner. Ignore his discussions and you will be the winner.
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@mzz663 (2772)
• United States
2 Apr 07
Sometimes there's not alot you can do to change an older persons opinion on life....I'd say let him ramble and he'll eventually go away.
But...on the other hand, if you have the oportunity to reply to him, you could tell him that alot of things in the Bible were done according to the times and customs, and you sure wish you had time in your life to learn to do all that, but you're busy working for a living and don't have time or money to be spending alot of time doing all that!
Ask him if his wife needs a job.....or....does he even have a wife? maybe she got tired of hearing him and left him! ;)
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