Arguements or disscussions with females are useless . Do you agree ??

@samrat16 (2442)
India
April 2, 2007 3:29am CST
I'm 29 years old now. Married and living happily. But I have something interesting to share with you and want your opinion on the thought. I have been mom's boy for my life and was never close to my dad as he is very difficuilt to handle and talk. Throughout my life my mom told me all bad things a man can have and good qulaities which females posses. But when I was 17 my dad told that he want to share secret of life and it's a one liner, " Never argue or discuss anything with females , you can never win ." So friends and myloters do you agree that this statement is right??? ( I'm keen to hear from females as all men will say yes, your dad is right lol)
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
2 Apr 07
Depends on the woman....With ME its 95% true...if my husband argues with me, chances of him winning are pretty much slim to none LOL BUT I know some women who just dont have the backbone to stand up for what they believe in or just stand up to their man ya know...Even when they ARE RIGHT they back down and let their man "win"
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• United States
2 Apr 07
It depends entirely on how he meant it. One way is that the woman is smarter and always right and it's best to simply accept this and not fight it. While still sexist, I can partially agree with it. There are many cases where the females are better at analyzing a situation and coming to a conclusion that a male can't wor won't see. But I wouldn't say that it's always like this. The other way, is that women are illogical and stubborn and no matter what you do, you will always be wrong. This is fairly common as well, but it is degradingly sexist to simply assume all females are stupid.
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• India
2 Apr 07
well ur topic can be easily erected by the fact that u have 2 obey and sometimes order them....
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• United States
3 Apr 07
Yes, its true. Women are always right. LOL. Just Kidding.
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• United States
3 Apr 07
I was not!LOL
• India
3 Apr 07
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@apsara60 (6610)
• Israel
3 Apr 07
This what you have done itself shows how unsecured you are. wether you write once or you write the same thing 100 times, the meaning is same. You see now such simple things you men don't understand......lol
@austere (2812)
• Philippines
3 Apr 07
my God! How insecure can you get bokachoda!hahaha just kidding! but that's really unfair huh? you didnt even tell us your reasn for agreeing like that! hehe
@aissha (2036)
• India
2 Apr 07
hi samrat(i'm writing to increase my lines,and always say hi to u). first of all i don't think u r typical momma's boy u r a man of ur own ,u may love ur mom most and it is good ,i appreciate that mothers do a lot for their children (again to increas....) .if u ask my husband he will say u know how to say and what to say at the right time but i feel i don't hv that art and i think my husband dominates me ,sooo in my case it is pending matter ,but what ur dad said is considered to be right,if i hurt ur felings regarding anything then just ignore because i'm on a spree of writing and i caqn never hurt a good friend.lol bye lo.....n....g haan?
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@samrat16 (2442)
• India
2 Apr 07
Na ,I never take anything serious in life. It's people who are serious suffers . People like me are always happy .
• India
7 Aug 07
I believe you are back after quite sometime and with what a topic! I would say the same applies for men too, countless Indian women (and also around the world) would agree with me. Most women don’t have the strength (physical, mental, financial) to stand up and argue with men. Even I can come up with a one-liner like your Dad: all men are brutes, its best to avoid them and maintain your dignity. But I will do no such thing coz I hate generalizations. What your Dad meant (with due respect to him) concerns mainly women with whom he has interacted on a personal level. I have often heard women being labeled as argumentative, illogical and petty and men generally, with a wave of their superior hand, dismiss women as pea-brained hens fighting over pots & pans. But please try and understand, according to gender division, a woman’s whole world is her family…she is the queen, the nurturer, the bearer of responsibilities no man would like to take. Its but obvious that she fights for every inch of her territory. Men do the same thing in office. However, outside the family the situation is completely different. You would find women who are not only logically competent, but adaptable and open to debates and discussions. You can discuss anything with them…they know not only how to maintain professional discretion but can also advise you on many things. Your father obviously belongs to the old school (pls don’t take offence) and he thinks a woman’s life starts and ends within the home & hearth. But I would not totally support your mom too, one should not influence a child’s mind with one’s personal opinions. Now that you are happily married, I wish your wife would be more of a friend to you than a wife and you will understand the true meaning of life-partner.
@polachicago (18716)
• United States
2 Apr 07
That's big lie....I am female and I am open for any discussion with male. It depends on arguments, useless arguments won't count. It is very unfair to say that. Man very often has unreal expectations and they don't see life as it is. But still a lot to discuss...
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@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
2 Apr 07
Oh I am sorry I do not agree with this completely as some woman you can reason with it all depends on who the woman is although I am a woman a lot of men do have great ideas and I will always listen to them and learn from them as well.
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• Malaysia
2 Apr 07
Definitely not useless..According to my experiences, I can say that both party had win but I'm not totally agree with the term 'winning' when it comes to relationship whether its your mother or wife. Disscussion's objective is to find a solution that both party can agree with and it is not about who going to win it.Don't you think?I think we should demolish this kind of mind-setting..You'll never be able to communicate and happy with your life if you think to win over women.We supposed to be more discussing not arguing with each other:)
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• Philippines
2 Apr 07
That depends on what are you trying to discuss with her and how... If you know she has the rightful reason then you can't really win the discussion. But if you know you have the means, then you should stand up on what you believe, later on she will realize what's your point.
@atramesil (685)
• United States
2 Apr 07
I grew up in a family where an open forum was the norm. Male or female opions and input were encouraged. Each of us had our own opionions but, we were willing to listen others and sometimes our viewpoints changed based on the new knowledge we aquired. Most the arguments between my husband and I have been relatively trivial and in most cases I stand back and decide if what we are fighting about is going to seriously affect my life in two weeks. If it is not then I let it pass. If it will affect it, well then I stay in the argument. I probably come out on top about 60% of the time.
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• United States
2 Apr 07
I believe that its depending on what subject you talk to us about, I happen to believe anything is easy to discuss. I have one rule in my house, that you sit down and talk. (No fighting, screaming, or yelling). If you have a problem we sit down discuss the problem, and find a solution. There is usually no problem after we do this, and it doesn't take very long. I think that men come across kind a strong sometimes, almost like they think that they're right before they even listen to someone elses side. However I can agree that women are very sensative when it comes to talking about something, or even having a discussion with a man.
@jcj_111776 (3216)
• Philippines
7 Aug 07
That's what my husband usually tells me whenever we're engaged in an argument. He even told me once that I win and we should end the discussion. I think the mere fact that the females usually wins because we tend to put into details what it's being argued or talked about. Most men, for my husband for instance, always wants to have a short cut version. It's like if it's possible to argue over something using only 3 sentences, then he'd do it. Males feel arguing with females is useless because they already feel that they are at the losing end. Most females won't stop ending a discussion unless the point of the matter has been understood by both sides. And the fact that females uses more words is another matter. It's like being cornered and being rammed again and again with a fountain of words. I don't nag my husband. But I don't want to end up an argument knowing that he didn't understand my point. Because we would just end up arguing over something useless.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
3 Apr 07
well sometimes, it is very useless but i do hope that everyone will just understand that making a discussion with females is really metally stimulating and can put your patience to a test haha.
@adidas7878 (1891)
• United States
22 Apr 07
it is not always true, and it is depend on what you are argue about it could be the other way around, if you know you are right stick to it. you can win in the end.
@deepti15 (1190)
• India
5 Apr 07
Agreed! I would like to tell you something in this concern, its a short story, do read it fully. Once there was a couple, who went out on vacation. Husband liked fishing and wife loved reading. So, on a fine morning husband left wife in the hotel room and went out for fishing in the baot, which he had rented from locals. Wife enjoyed herself in the hotel room with her books. Later in afternoon, husband came back to catch some rest, and since wife wanted to take a stroll she took husbands boat and her favourite book and went out. She found a peaceful place, stopped her boat, tooke out her book and continued reading. After some time, a sheriff (police man)came to her and told her that this is a fishing prohibited area . He said that fishing just not allowed here. lady said, but I am not fishing, I am just reading my book. On this sheriff said, having a look into her boat, that she has all the neccesary equipments for fishing. Women grew angry, as she was just not fishing. She said I will charge you with r*pe. Now it was police man's turn to shake. He said madam I am only doing my duty and not trying to r*pe you. On this the women snapped saying, BUT YOU HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT. So, never argue!
@miamilady (4910)
• United States
17 Apr 07
Great question!!! My first reaction was to say, Yes, you got it right! Your Dad is a smart guy. But honestly, there is a difference between an argument and a discussion. I have found that "arguments" are usually a waste of time and cause a lot of hurt feelings and serve no productive purpose. A "discussion" is a good way to exchange ideas and get to know how the other person is feeling. The dynamics of each couple is different. Some people are more open to listening to eachother than others. In my opinion, the ideal couple would be able to discuss issues openly and then make some sort of compromise or agree to disagree and respect eachothers differences. Unfortunately there aren't a lot of ideal couples out there. Also, some couples actually enjoy a good agrument. I think some people enjoy being passionate about their beliefs. That would be okay too as long as they fight fair. No name calling and saying cruel things to eachother.
@bunalice (315)
• China
22 Apr 07
Well,I am a girl,for my opinion,I think it is not much right.If it just discussion between us,I think it is real useful.I always discuss something with my boyfriend in order to know his opinions,so I can make better decision.However,if it is arguement,I think maybe you are right.
@farazkh1 (1153)
• Pakistan
21 Jul 07
There is a saying a women can lead you towards heaven if she is a good women and the other one will make your life hell so there are fewest good women in this world and rest of them are trouble makers ......so its better not to argue with them and you cannot change them unless they agree to change themselves ......