are you a slave to your stuff? a pack rat? help me
By kaperkitty
@kaperkitty (1097)
Canada
April 7, 2007 3:09pm CST
well folks the reason I'm asking is the answer to both of those questions for me is yes....i love my junk..i keep books i have read I keep magazines i have read and yes I keep cookbooks i have never opened. I have Christmas cards from ten Christmas's ago. I never throw away stuff..I always mean to ..next year i say. well next year never happens. well baby my next year is here..i have top pack my stuff up to move to the new house and the big guy(know as John) says Cheryl I'm not moving boxes and boxes of junk you get me ..and i know he is right but well i like me stuff have i said that.see i go to these garage sales and there is a saw missing most of its teeth you know nobody is going to buy it its going to the trash i figure someday I'll do something crafty with it..that day never comes and i have a saw that can't cut wind lol.tell me friends are any of you a slave to your stuff i want to one of those slick organized people you see on TV with there markers and pretty colored bins ...some how i just never get there. but i am going to try to make this move my purge..please share any stories with me if you have gotten over this addiction or have any moving tips
Cheryl
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15 responses
@Denmarkguy (1845)
• United States
8 Apr 07
I feel for you, I really do. I was recently part of a cross-country move, and I had great hopes that we would cut down on the volume of stuff-- but it takes a HUGE commitment to stop being a packrat. The odd thing is, I was raised by a minimalist neatfreak, and yet I have been in two long-term relationships with chronic packrats.
The bad news is that you're not going to be able to "just stop." At least not unless you get to the bottom of the psychology involved in your relationship with "stuff." And that can take several years. I don't know you, of course, but generally ONE of the ways packrats can "let go" of some stuff is to focus on giving that stuff a "happy home." The packrats I have known have been very generous people, and will GLADLY give their stuff away-- it's when it comes to TRASHING stuff that there's a problem.
It's unlikely that your life will look like one of those people on "Clean Sweep," but there are some avenues you should consider, to reduce the volume. One way the size of our moving load was reduced was by not moving ANYthing that didn't get "sorted" first. In other words, no just "tossing it in a box to deal with later." If you have 14 toaster ovens, choose the best one, heck, even if you choose a couple of "backups" you're still way ahead. The main goal is not to move anything that needs to be "fixed" before it's any good to you. I know that won't be 100% possible, but it's a goal to strive for.
I don't know where you live (your profile just says "Canada"), but if you're in or near a larger city, the process will be easier. A LOT of stuff was "redistributed" through eBay sales (the better bits; in the end actually paid for almost half the price of the move), and through freecycle.org, and the "free stuff" area of craigslist. I know both the latter have a presence in Canada. I also painted a large "MOVING! FREE STUFF!" sign which would be out at the street on Saturday mornings when people in the neighborhood would be having garage sales. All in all, we probably let loose the equivalent of 200 moving boxes through a combination of these.
Also, make it a rule that you are not allowed to bring ANYTHING "new" into the house until after the move. No "garage sale therapy" of ANY kind, whatsoever, no matter "how good a deal" it is. Period.
Finally, if you have stuff around the place of a "my friend Debbie would really LOVE this" nature, now is the time to GIVE it to Debbie, even if it is NOT Christmas, or her birthday. This can be especially helpful with "family stuff"-- all those things you're "saving for Aunt Frances." GET them to Aunt Frances.
As a "sidebar note," we ended up with 430 moving boxes being driven from Texas to Washington state. By typical moving company estimates, that's the equivalent of 2.5 "families of four in a 4000 square foot house." But we "kicked out" approximately 1.5 "families of four in a 4000 square foot house" that did NOT get moved. Decluttering doesn't have to happen all at once. Make a pact with yourself that you'll go through ALL the stuff AGAIN, when you unpack it-- with a really critical eye.
Good luck!
@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
i am in awe that is awesome and such a great idea i have some huge heavy dressers and i don't want to move them i think i will do just that put a sign in the yard free moving if you want it take now..this is perfect I will tell my family I'm doing this bu the same thing will apply if you want it get someone (not me) to move it for you now and its yours. this is the best idea.thanks so much for helping me out.this is the perfect time of year to do this we move May 26 .By the way I'm in Eastern Canada .
Cheryl
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@Denmarkguy (1845)
• United States
9 Apr 07
Well, you have a busy 7 weeks ahead of you! I wish you well with the move... it's a stressful time for ALL.
Thanks for the "best response" vote!
@sparling (178)
• Canada
9 Apr 07
hey, its me. im going through something similar right now. I have too much crap, stuff that i even forget that i have til i find it, but even then i still cant dispose of it. I've been trying to get organized for months now but im just so overwhelmed with the amount of crap thats in this very small house. im thinking of going one room at a time starting with the boys and working my way to the basement. Now if only i could get motivated. I love my stuff even though its used or old, whatever...if you get any ideas on the organized thing how 'bout letting me know...luv ya
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
9 Apr 07
how can i give you advice your my finding great stuff partner??? i know we have so mich great stuff but i really need to make my new place less cluttered and tidy I think i will feel better..want some more stuff lol
love you back
@ThulsZ (784)
• India
8 Apr 07
I know it’s wonderful to have stuff, but that’s really what it is, stuff. Try to use this rule of thumb, if you haven’t used it in six months or longer, it’s time to go. Items that you are keeping like that saw, most likely won’t be made into something so it’s time to let that go. I find that now that I have less stuff in our new home, I feel better. I make it a point not to buy “things” as I don’t want our place to feel cluttered. And believe me, it’s a lot easier to dust when you don’t have to move knickknacks. I’ve added a link to a site that you might find interesting as it talks about decluttering.
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
oh the site isn't here hon maybe if i add you on my friends list you could pass it along and your right there should be a six month rule. I have very interesting furniture pieces and nice blown glass you never see in all the clutter..its time to purge in a big way
Cheryl
@cabergren (1181)
• United States
8 Apr 07
I have seen this subject on the Oprah show. They had that guy from Clean Sweep on the show. He says it is not just about keeping tons of stuff. He says it is a mental thing that makes you keep all of these things. So the first thing you have to do is get to the bottom of what is going on with you. When you figure that out you will want to get rid of all the stuff you have been keeping. Good luck.
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
i agree i think it's something inside yourself that makes you hold on to material things. now i just need to figure why i do it..I do have a few ideas why after reading some of the responses .I like i often buy things that are broken that people tend to leave on the tables ..I was an abused child broken you might say..maybe i take it home to save it who knows its just a theory..thanks for responding all this has me thinking
Cheryl
@arkaf61 (10881)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
OH my.. yes, it is something I've been trying to fight for quite some years now, but it seems like a lost battle :)
YOu sound just like me, or maybe I sound just like you hehe I seem to have trouble trowing things out.
I have been working at it for a while now, and I am slowly letting go of some of my treasures. But I still find myself making excuses for not throwing out this or that.
Every once in a while I get really upset with all the junk , throw some stuff out and organize all the rest, but soon it's back to what it was before grrrr:)
@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
I know its like walking on quick sand i swear..I have to win this battle i want one of those homes that looks meat and tidy right now behind every door is a bomb waiting to explode.the linen closet barely closes it threatens to rains towels down on anyone who dares open it lol..why do we do it someone must have to answer??
thanks for responding hon and tips i will be happy to pass along
Cheryl
@carmine_16 (100)
• India
8 Apr 07
LOL, I am a packrat too. I thought I was worst but you seem to top of it. I keep stuff which are useful (which I end up stacking but not using, ofcourse). Recently I had a brainstorm and cleaned the whole house. I gave away all the unncessary things (and ended up trashing other people's houses lol). Now I have promised myself not to buy anything which I wouldn't use immediately. I have stopped thinking of future use.
@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
oh good for you!!! I will follow your example and due my best to match it..I was thinking the same thing about my family if i give them all my junk they will then have my problem lol..works for me ..thanks so much for taking the time to respond.
Cheryl
@shelagh77 (3643)
•
8 Apr 07
Nope! I REVEL in my clutter and memories. I am the family keeper of history and everyone dumps their stuff they don't want to throw away but dare not keep either, and then out it trots when the next generation come along. For instance, I still had my brother's football rattle which he used as a fan, and twenty years later it was handed back to his daughter, alas to cheer on a different team and annoy her Dad lol.
I tend to favour clear plastic boxes with lids so that you can see what is in them, and I buy them whenever I escape my partner and put more of my treasured relics away.
Why not make yourself a list of all those things you want to do something crafty with and take on one project at a time and work through them, write the book or blog about it and have your revenge on all those people who said it was junk? There's an enjoyable thought for you :-)
@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
now see there is a lady with a purpose i envy your love of junk and memories.but unfortunately i don't keep special things.I keep one wheel off a microwave cart that broke 20 years ago i swear i have it.What you do is special what I do is well Sanford and Son. I have so much useless stuff ..I will of course keep pictures and mementos but i need to get rid of the pardon my French crapolla..thanks so much for responding
Cheryl
@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
8 Apr 07
Purging your stuff is very hard, I know and it seems like the more you purge, the more you have. I keep throwing out so much stuff. Yet when I look around, it doesn't look like I have thrown anything out. This week, I am going to do my kitchen, dining room and living room and the next person who leaves stuff lying around in any of those rooms is going to lose fingers.
Next week will be the bedrooms, then the next month will be the family room and storage. And when I turn around..it will end up being exactly as it is now. It is a mystery!
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
well I'm happy to hear your going to be purging too misery loves company you know. i have some extra stuff if your in need of some replacement junk.Just give me your address lol..seriously isn't it amazing how fast it gets cluttered again..my promise to my husband is this new home is to work on keeping it organized and clutter free lol we do have a basement whoosh over the stairs it goes lol
Cheryl
@monkeywriter (2004)
• United States
8 Apr 07
You have pack rat issues like I do :)) I hate it but I love to collect stuff. When I was little I collected so much I about wrote a book about my 101 collections including such things as home magazines, and rocks. *L*
I'd say just start somewhere small. Know someday isnt gonna come. They say make a rule. Put stuff in a box and if you dont touch it after say 30 days give it away or trash it.
Always go through your mail over the trash dont let it pile up. Just work even 15 mint a day on a pile of stuff and you should be okay.
When we were moving last November we ended up having to bring at least 4 boxes (unknown location now in the garage) from that house to this because we couldnt go through it all. But we went through tons. And ME a person who collects lots even got rid of lots and lots of bags of stuff. Just do what you gotta do. I took pictures of some objects that were too big or bad to keep. Some I tried to sell at our moving sell. The others I trashed. I have the pictures and thats all I needed. Including several clothing items, and such.
Work hard, be brave. Its not gonna be easy. There are some books on pack rats you should check them out. I know "Clutters last Stand" is supposed to be good.
Good luck!
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
oh now thats too funny i love that idea and your story makes me fell much better and your right its all about just letting go. someone letting go of my first husband seemed easier oops did I say that lol. but truly it is amazing how much we love our stuff i keep tags off things its silly.this will be my test..my goal is to move with 40% less stuff wish me luck and thanks for responding
Cheryl
@zenmachado (1617)
• United States
8 Apr 07
I dont really hold on to things or get attached to them. I am of the disposition that many things are going to go away, so the main thing I try to build up on is the stuff I place in my mind. While I dont want to build a great heap of books or a film collection.. I do want to build the number of books and films that I have watched. That way even if I never read that book again, I learned something from it and can use the knowledge in the future.. even if the book is no where to be found..
That plus, Im always scared that my house is going to go up in flames.. If I dont get attached to stuff, then Ill never miss it!
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
your just like my husband he says you can't miss what you don't have..mind you he likes his TV and stereo but he doesn't really pay much attention to material things.he is a person who is very practical and a minimalist so clutter to him is very distracting and he often just shakes his he and wonders how we ended up together lol
thanks for responding
Cheryl
@VotreAmie (3028)
• United States
8 Apr 07
I used to love my junk but then after I lived in so many places I had to move and always had to get rid of my junk. One time I made a decision to not accumulate junk anymore. Now twice a year I go through my stuff and get rid of things that I don't use anymore. It helps me have a nicer place and less hassle to clean it.
Take a decision to go through your stuff every other time and get rid of the things that you don't use. They say if you have not used something for a year there is a big chance that you will never use it again or at least you don't need it that much. Better idea: why don't you sell your stuff on ebay, craiglist or garage sale? That way you will not feel guilty because you will get some money for it. I think if you do that you will enjoy having the money and you will get into the habit of getting rid of your junk for fun.
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
your right if i think i can make a few dollars to set aside for something i want in the new house that will give me the incentive not to hold on to junk. But i do have to make an effort to de clutter this place by 40% before we move. then my place will look better and it will be a fresh start for the design..out with the old in with the new..thanks so much for the helpful hints and responding
Cheryl
@girish_aarthy (68)
• India
8 Apr 07
even I am addict to reading good things. I just share it with my friends who will not have knowledge of the subject. I keep rotating my books/magazines with all my friends. once I have circulated the knowledge at any point of time even if I forget what I had read I can share it with my friends. Once the circulation is over I sell them.
how`s the idea?
@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
that's a very good idea but at the end I will send them to the Salvation army to sell for the food bank..i will set that up very cool idea thanks .that's something I can start on tomorrow..my new home has a built in book shelf so i will keep my hard cover must reads and swap out magazines and novels thanks for the great tip and responding
Cheryl
@sapphiresage (431)
• United States
7 Apr 07
My husband and I go round and round about the stuff in this house. He bought this house before we met and lived in it for about four years with just him. He had so little stuff that when I walked in, my first impression was that he had just moved in and his stuff hadn't arrived yet!
Then me and my two girls moved in, and then he and I had a son together after we got married. Now the place is crammed to the rafters and we're really feeling overwhelmed in this little place.
The amazing thing is that we throw out stuff by the Jeep load, and still never seem to have any more room! I think it's because once I see an empty space, I have this urge to fill it and go buy something.
Good luck with the purging and moving. May you be more successful at it than most of us packrats!
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
this is so funny to me. because if you read the post before your my husband John is a minimalist, and his Mom is too they came last summer and declutter our apartment.after they left the place looked so empty i swear i could hear an echo it took me no time at all to fill it back up lol..but this time i really do have to make an effort to get rid of things i am not using keep the memories maybe store them away better i think being organized will help me feel in control of the move..thanks so much for understanding how anxious it is for a pack rat to part with her things
Cheryl
@gadget_kat (412)
• United States
8 Apr 07
Oh my goodness! You must be my long lost twin! I have been trying to fight the packrat syndrome for years, especially more so since my younger daughter was born, and has shown signs of being a packrat herself, worse than me. Some stuff, I will sell on Ebay, especially if it's brand new and I never opened it. I've even sold a bunch of stuff that I accumulated from my old job that I don't need anymore.
Other things, I have given to Goodwill. I have craft items that I bought years ago, that I've never used. I'll hold onto them thinking that someday, I'll get around to doing something crafty. That time still hasn't come. I have had a couple of yardsales, but they weren't too successful.
I'm still fighting this packrat syndrome, and have noticed that even my daughter has improved a bit with her packrat syndrome. Someday, I hope to be victorious!
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
I really think i will be happier if I can conquer this I was discussing this with my mom this morning and we touched on something that made sense to our situation. Mom and I grew up fairly poor it was just the two of us Mom worked two jobs I wore hand me downs and always had a second hand bike and we went to food banks and good will helped mom with Christmas gifts for me.But all through this my mom worked 70+ hours a week proving to me a good work ethic was so important to being a strong person. my mom grew up very poor also.So now mom is comfortable in life has a nice home , and I'm the same so everyday we are out picking up little things.still hit the garage sales and flea markets .We both have overflowing closets mom said this morning Cheryl do you think we don't realize we are not those poor people anymore? and suddenly maybe she is right..are we trying to make it all up some home. do i buy 5 pairs of sneakers because i never had a new pair when i was young?? there maybe some basis to it..
anyway sorry i got lost in thought thanks so much for responding
Cheryl
@Mshell (62)
• United States
7 Apr 07
I can be a packrat at times too. I will usually clean out everything when I have had enough, but I should never have made the mess in the first place. I try to keep things with the intention of using it later on, but then I never do and it ends up in the trash a few months later. I would say as long as you continue to go through it and dispose of the things that are not so important anymore, it is okay to keep some things.
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@kaperkitty (1097)
• Canada
8 Apr 07
see i think you have a good point you seem to have set limits for yourself. me and limits are not such good friends but i guess I'm going to just do the same when i sense there is too much its time.so you do this all at one not one little bite at a time hmm that might be why I fail.thanks hon for responding
Cheryl
a great idea
a life change is the best time to purge
are we living in the past
armed with a plan not to junk up the new home
books are personal
donations to the sally ann
i have a few theories
i swear i could hear an echo
i will pass along any tips i get
im doing this
im excited
im sanford and son
its was easier to trash my first husband then my c
need some more stuff
over the basement stairs it goes
rustic cottage design
setting limits might be the key
sharing the wealth
six month rule sounds about right
thanks for being an inspiration
whats you mailing address
you broke the mold good for you
you cant miss what you dont have