do you read the whole discussion or just the title of a discussion?
By fliffy555
@fliffy555 (1044)
April 9, 2007 5:40pm CST
what i really want to know is if people actually pay that much attention to this wording underneath the title or do they just read the title and reply to the title of it?? this is a test to see if people actually really read it or if they just reply to the title the real question is how do you create your discussions? do you read others and make up your own or do you just spontaniously think of something and write it? do you check to see if someone has already written it? or do you just write it and hope people reply to yours? what do you think of my test also? how many people do you think will be caught out?
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@foxyfire33 (10005)
• United States
10 Apr 07
Most if not all of my discussions have been from some spontaneous idea or a real life situation. Some times another discussion will get me thinking about how that issue affects my life and it will prompt me to start a discussion that's related but with my own personal "twist". I don't usually search that type of topic because even if someone has started a similar one, it won't have MY personal details and so the responses won't necessarily fit.
I think your test made a very good point. And as you've seen people don't always read everything. I've seen people claim they do when obviously they haven't, and others who openly admit that they don't read long discussions and answer based on the title. I give people a negative rating for not at least reading the whole topic although it's frustrating if they don't read any other responses either. In my own discussions, I often end up adding details as it goes along. After repeating the same fact several times, I start giving negatives to people who keep mentioning or asking for that detail.
I'm pretty sure you'll "catch" quite a few people. Two already as of when I started typing.
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
YAY!! 2 people now who actually read my discussion! The one above you seems to think i am being mean. But as you can see from your own discussion and the very first the better answers come from those who have read the whole discussion!
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
for me the point is seeing how many people read the whole thing? Ive noticed that the majority that read the whole discussion are like 9 or 10 stars... it kinda tells me something. Even i am one not to read the whole discussion sometimes then people flail about at me having a go saying im spamming. my purpose is that i wont report anyone cuz i dont consider that they are spamming. its just something for me to read and to those who have not read the entier thing - laugh at cuz they say things like I ALWAYS READ THE WHOLE THING when they obviously dont. thats all
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@RogerTheRabbit (1271)
• Portugal
10 Apr 07
I don't think you are mean. I just said that there is no point in posting titles that has nothing to do with the discussion.
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@flipper0 (93)
• United States
9 Apr 07
Good and funny questions! In my browser, I can only see the first 2 or 3 lines of the questions, so... if that piques my interest, I look at the responses. Or I respond. I've never just written something bogus just to get a "response" credit, but some things I've read lead me to believe that lots of folks do. To me, the only real benefit of all this is getting a chance to speak my mind about some things that matter to me, y'know? So far, I've earned 44 cents (lol), so I'm very aware that this is NOT a money-making venture, just a way to have some fun.
@fliffy555 (1044)
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9 Apr 07
I dont think you read the whole discussion. Just the first few lines. I actually asked how you think of your discussions... the title is a trick to see if people actually read the discussion interest or just the title. Or as you said the first few lines
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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12 Apr 07
oh ok lol... its just you didnt answer the actual question. you answered the title question the actual question was how do you create you discussions?
@texasclassygal (5305)
• United States
10 Apr 07
Goodness so many questions, let's see if I can get them all ... Yes, I do read the whole discussion with the title as an enticement, sometimes I read titles and then read the discussions and realize I have nothing to contribute but I have still enjoyed the discussion. In my creations of discussions I usually think of them and will write them down or put them on a Word document for posting later on in the day and before I post it, yes, I do check to see if someone has already posted it before me, I would rather answer a discussion than start my own, less work later on to deal with the ratings of each person's contribution, the answering back each times someone responds and then the marking of best response. Before I didn't use to check to see if someone else had posted a similar discussion until I got an email from a friend who said that she posted the same discussion a few weeks earlier and was upset that I posted mine. After that, I always check now.
As far as the test goes, I think you might be surprised at how many people respond with reading your entire discussion.
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@mlgb_24 (638)
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10 Apr 07
i always read the content of the discussion, because it would make me look like a stupid one if i just respond to the title without even knowing the details beneath it. some discussions are worth reading and replying to as you learn from them as well. and i rate most of them for the effort being made.
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@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
10 Apr 07
He he, I didn't think you would catch anyone, but it seems to be working.
@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
it does seem to workin huh??? i didnt think i would catch many people out hehe
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
Not to sound rude... you say you read all the discussion?? How come you didnt answer the question i asked? It was a test to see if people read it and the question starts about half way down the discussion topic. maybe you could try again?
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@sunshine4 (8703)
• United States
10 Apr 07
I read the whole discussion and then respond. Sometimes I respond right away, other times I am interested in seeing what others reply and then may comment on one of their replies.
I can't really understand the rest of what you are asking. If you are asking how I create a discussion, I think of something that might be interesting and start a discussion. I will check and see if it has been started, for example, if it is about american idol, i check the american idol discussions before I post one. If I don't see it, I start my own. If it is a more general discussion, I really don't know how to check and see if someone has already started it.
Good questions...it will be interesting to see how people answer.
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
Thank you for replying. You got the second bit right too. I was asking a lot of questions really. The main one being how do you think of your discussions. I know some people just look at others discussions that have been resolved and start it (I had a friend who did it to me until I deleted them lol)
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@web2samus (255)
• Uruguay
10 Apr 07
I usually read the title, the post opening the topic and sometimes some replies on the first page, it's too much information to handle otherwise. Some exceptionally interesting topics get my full attention and reading.
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
you didnt read the entire discussion! there was more to the discussion! hehe gotcha!
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@web2samus (255)
• Uruguay
10 Apr 07
I don't need to answer each question! :$ okey you got me but at least I'm here again to see if you've answered me like you asked here: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/881198.aspx :D
about the real question well, usually I'm just thinking to myself and sometimes I wonder what others may think about what I'm thinking, and there I start a topic :) and no, I don't check for previous discussions because in this place I think that may be a problem considering the way things seem to work, I mean here the point is to "keep it active" and "keep it alive" I think this is the reason the site has to reward you for your participation but to make this effectively you cannot have so much control about the information flow, I think that this friendly-but-not-so-usable interfase is made on purpose to help you "miss" some things in order to create more "recycled" traffic, talking things that have already been said or answering a topic even if someone else has said the exact same on some other answer... CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY! :P
your test is pretty good ¬¬!!
@desertdarlene (8910)
• United States
10 Apr 07
I usually create my discussions based on what interests me or what I have to say. Sometimes, I will look to see if it's already been done before and I will respond to those questions. I sometimes like to answer several questions on the same subject.
I think your test is funny. If you want an answer to the title question I would have to say that I usually read the text below the title. But, sometimes, I read too fast or get too excited by the subject that I may miss a thing or two. I know how frustrating that is when people only read the title. I started a discussion on "is mylot slowing down" and wrote in the description that I was talking about the quality of discussions. Only two people really got it.
Good for you for "testing" people on this!
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@SpitFire179 (2536)
• Canada
10 Apr 07
First: I read the whole discussion, and half the time, i skip the titles because i see often people doing kinda what you just did, but posting a completely different discussion..
So i read the first couple lines it shows usually, and if it catches my interest, i jump on it, if not, I move on.
I also like to read some of the responses on the first page, just to see what kind of response has been achieved.
Now Secondly:
How do i create my discussions?
Well, i have many ways, some are interesting, some are not really i guess, it all depends on who reads it and responds, but anyway, i get a lot of thoughts that i don't know the answer to every day, and also a lot of live thoughts, more in depth thought provoking thoughts, and then funny ones too sometimes, i use that to grow on.
I also use some of the discussions that i have with my family and friends, because 9 times out of ten, if you can make a steamy dinner table discussion, something that really gets the talk flowing, then you can definitely get it going on here...
Do i read others discussions to think of my own or spontaneously think of something?
All depends, sometimes when i see something that kicks my mind into gear i will start a discussion on it, sometimes i won't, sometimes what i do is just post my opinion on that, and then further it with any other thought that escapes.
Do I check to see if someone has already written it? Well a lot of times i do, but there are the odd time that i don't, I'm guilty as charged. :P It all depends on how important it is to me to bring up. I ALWAYS hope people reply to mine anyway, regardless if someone's posted something along those lines or not :P
I think your test, is very valid, There are way too many people taking advantage of MyLot, and i think that these tests are important in finding those that are taking advantage of it, and those that aren't. We need to preserve MyLot, like we would all other things important to us, i may think differently than a lot of people out there on this, but it's not about the money for me, it's about the friendships, knowledge, sharing, information, and much more, i guess you can call it GROWTH, all of this, you achieve from MyLot, with a nice bonus.
I'd say that about 40 percent of the MyLot population ignores the actual content, and another 15 Percent of the population here skims through it. The rest of us, i think care about MyLot.
Great discussion.
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
thank you! that was an awesome response! im glad to see some others out there still care about mylot like myself. i created this to catch people out. and i have. thank you again
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@steney (1418)
• Philippines
10 Apr 07
When I respond to a discussion, I make sure to read it first so I will be able to fully understand and answer what is being asked. I don't rush and just type away because I'd like to give quality responses every time and it helps to know all points that are being raised. When making a discussion on the other hand, I think long and hard before starting one. I think of quality discussions that are worth responding to, and then I get disappointed sometimes when I get zero or little response. :(
We all have our choices here and for those who don't really read the text underneath the title, I'm sure they have their own reasons. I guess if they give quality responses even without reading the whole thing, it's fine by me. Mostly, the summary or essence of the explanation is in the title itself anyways.
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@RogerTheRabbit (1271)
• Portugal
10 Apr 07
Is this a test? I have seen people doing this already. Like posting in the title that they are going to leave myLot and them writing that it was just a test to see if people actually read the whole discussion or just the title.
I don't think this is a nice thing to do. If the title has nothing to do with the discussion them people will get cheated and will probably read things that they don't want or just can't response.
And some discussions are about opinions. And people can have the same opinion and express it in different ways.
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
Yes it is a test. If you read the whole thing you would have seen why I named it so. The question is not hard to respond to if you actually read it. Im afraid you like the 2 before you actually failed to understand what it is I am trying to get at. If people actually read the whole discussion they wouldnt miss important things and would have a much higher quality of answers!
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
That is why I said people should read the whole discussion it will help people make more quality discussion posts. If you dont like it dont respond thats all i can say. Why respond 2x to a discussion 'you do like, cuz its mean' at the end of the day. what i chose and what you chose to start a discussion is your own choice. Its not like i said im leaving and then went off on a total different track about something else. I kept to the subject of mylot, honestly i dont see the harm in trying to make people read the entire discussion and gettin more money for quality discussions!
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@RogerTheRabbit (1271)
• Portugal
10 Apr 07
I have read it all and like I said I don't think people should do this. If everybody starts doing this we will never know what is the real discussion all about.
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@prestocaro (1251)
• United States
10 Apr 07
I usually think of a topic while I'm away from my computer. I sometimes remember these topics later when I AM in front of my PC. My discussions aren't that popular -- I think the most I've gotten is around 40 replies. Unfortunately, I think many will fail your test! It appears in many of my discussions that people not only don't read the content of the first post, they also do not read anyone else's post! I will get a whole page of various people giving the same advice. As if they are completely unaware of any other person who also posted exactly what they are posting.
Sometimes I get inspired to start a post by another, but more often than not when I check to see if a post already exists, it does. I have the most success with cooking/recipe posts, I think. Also "do you/don't you" style posts. For instance, my "do you pick up after your dog" post garnered lots of responses immediately. Looks like you lucked out with this one, though! You've already got lots of responses :)
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@kring_m (107)
• Philippines
10 Apr 07
i always make sure that i read the discussion to see if the topic is interesting or not. of course i wouldn't be able to know what the discussion is discussing until i read the whole thing.
when making a discussion, sometimes, a topic just pops out of my mind and see to it that the topic will be an interesting one and will get many responses. and to make sure that my discussion gets many responses, i would create a "catchy title". :)
nice discussion fliffy555, but you didn't caught me! :)
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
Im glad I didnt catch you out! That is the type of answer I want to see! People who dont take it harshly that I didnt put the EXACT topic in my title. I like to see that people do read the whole discussion and not just the title
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@gauravgupta (126)
• India
10 Apr 07
i my case i do read the whole discussion and then only reply.and as matter of creating a discussion i follow my instincts whatever came in my mind i create it.ya sometime it do resembles like other but i recently found that many of the newly created discussion are also like mine already created with only words jumbled.Your test is quite good i really liked your idea of testing people who are here only for earning they only generally read topic and then start posting and some are so great that they write 20-30 line just by reading topic only,HEAD OFF TO THOSE,the number of people to be caught by this discussions would be newly joined babies...as i am but this time i read the whole discussion so i am safe...
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
thank you for reading the whole discussion! I have noticed that the newer members are actually generally those who read the whole discussion! Or those with very high ratings. Connection? I think so lol
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@darkzzt (757)
• Canada
10 Apr 07
yup i always read the title and the discussion because there are sometimes questions underneath the title that help me respond better and more relevantly. for the discussions i have made so far, i didnt check to see if any others had already asked it but i have barely created any discussions at all. it is hard for me to think of thought-provoking things to ask about so i just respond to other peoples discussions instead. i am guessing that most people wont be caught out
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@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
2/7 have been caught out so far... so about a third so far. Thank you for your response. I dont start many discussion really anymore either. Most of mine don't really provoke thought. Just something for me to read when people reply lol. I just try to get ones that people can reply to without thinking. Its gonna get deleted or im gonna be spamming if i reply
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
10 Apr 07
For myself when creating a discussion it's usually about something I'm interested in. Usually something I've talked about recently in real life with family or one of my on-line friends. From there I create a subject that is geared around it. I do try to check to see if anyone else has written one similar but the searches don't always work for it.
I know I've had several people though who have read the subject and not the discussion. It's very irritating. We are supposed to read them and the responses before posting. I've noticed many do not do this. Some even just go by the keywords or tags of the discussion and post something based off that. That to me is even worse because they are usually seldom on topic. I'm sure several will be caught by your test. I've seen others do this in the past as well.
@Perry2007 (2229)
• Philippines
11 Apr 07
Clever... I like it, I read all what is written in a discussion before I give any respond at all, so you are not able to catch me.. huh...I usually think spontaneously when responding to discussions, that's why I need to read so I know what to write, i get some ideas from the discussions and sometimes I create my own relative to the other discussions I read. More often If there is something I can think of worth posting, then i just go post them, without checking if somebody had posted similar, it cant be a duplicate for sure, hope some will try to respond to them. I think your discussion is clever and perhaps you can take some with pants off.
@fliffy555 (1044)
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11 Apr 07
Take some pants off? lol. Thank you for readin the whole discussion! + to you like all those that have read it!
@marlyse (1056)
• Switzerland
10 Apr 07
at first, i read the part under the title, because i want to know what exactly is meant. if i create a discussion, i make up one from me and search if there is a similar one. if not i try to post this. i think your test is a good idea but i dont know how many you can catch with it. but what i saw in the last weeks, there are lots who only reply with nonsense and they hope to increase their earnings.
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@tzvetelina (467)
• Bulgaria
10 Apr 07
Well, I give attention to the context under the title to get to know more details about the question and also because this helps me answer better. I also check up if others have written the same thing that's on my mind,but I don't overdo - just the first lines to see the main idea of the answer. I try to be as much as exact in my replies as I can and I think it's really stupid just to see the title. When I start a discussion I start it with the idea that people will actually read what I have to say.
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@wachit14 (3595)
• United States
10 Apr 07
I read the whole discussion, especially if it is written concisely. However, when the discussion goes on for paragraphs, I scan it with my eyes and pick out the most important points so that I can answer the query as it was asked by the one who began the discussion, just as I am doing now with you. You didn't catch me with your test as I read your query all the way through. As for how I come up with my own discussion topics? I use my life experiences and the current news to come up with questions that are new if I can, however, I do find it difficult at times to be original.
@fliffy555 (1044)
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10 Apr 07
the only way i can see not to duplicate is one way only. if you see a title around that looks like it could be the same question as you want to write check it. I do that. But sometimes discussions come so easily to me cuz of life experiences or just being annoyed that they come to mind and i write them and being over 500 i can copy them have a gander to see if anyone has written it and then paste it back if no. I know someone copied my discussion earlier though cuz after i started it about 10 responses and then someone said there is another one very similar to mine. it gets annoying when people obviously copy a good discussion! good luck in mylot!
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