Why are mechanics dishonest with women?
By RebeccaLynn
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
United States
April 11, 2007 12:18am CST
This one erks me to no end!
My 4-Runner was losing power driving uphill. I took it to the Toyota dealership and left it with the mechanic to look over.
The next day he calls me and tells me that my truck needs $5000.00 worth of work and proceeded to give me a whole laundry list of things that were supposedly wrong with it.
I asked him to write it all down and I would pick up the list and get back to him. I picked up the list and gave it to my husband who then went to the mechanic and VOILA! My truck now magically only had one problem and the bill magically dropped to $600.00.
This isn't the first time this has happened. I am told one costly thing and my husband steps in and suddenly he gets the respect and treatment that should have been mine in the first place.
Any explanations for this magic trick? Do I need to grow a male appendage to get the truth from a mechanic!!?
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32 responses
@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
11 Apr 07
Flash news!
They do it to everyone... men and women...
It is only those who know a little bit about their car and about mechanic... who don't get rip off.
As soon as the mechanic realise that you know what you are talking about... he start being honest.
I don't know why it is that every car dealer and every mechanic seem to believe that they have a licence to rip off people. It seem to be part of the trade. If you don't have a conscience... become a mechanic.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
I agree with you, which is exactly why I prefer to handle these things without my husband. I just want some honesty. If something has the potential to need replaced soon, I would prefer to know. But don't tell me it's going to cost $5000.00 and then tell my husband 600.00.
You're right. They are a breed of their own.
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
We expect honesty in every other area of business, why do we put up with this from mechanics?
@Maremma (30)
• United States
12 Apr 07
Well it could go the other way too. You could take your car to a mechanic that IS afraid of your husband and so in turn is afraid to tell you when something will SOON be going out and it would be a real good idea to fix it BEFORE it does and takes a few more things out with it!
Mechanics seem to be a breed all their own and their behaviors are not to be understood by the rest of the world! LOL
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@coconutpatty (834)
• United States
11 Apr 07
That really is a shame.
I honestly do not get why these place feel the need to scam women. These are guys...guys who must realize that all of us have boyfriends, husbands, friends, brothers, fathers, or etc. So why do they have to go and make up a bunch of phoney problems to try to get money. Most of us may go to the mechanic alone but run it by a man in our life. It's hard to find an honest mechanic when you're a female.
Shortly after we moved, so probably 3 weeks ago, the check engine light came on in my Wrangler. So I went to AutoZone for the free diagnostic test. It read "small/large leak". I figured it was just a poor seal on the gas cap (happened many times before). The guy there said, well I smell gas so maybe you should take it to your mechanic. I explained that I was new and he referred me to a garage a few blocks away. He said they were really nice and reasonable and most of all honest. So I go there. Guy takes a quick look underneath, says he doesn't see anything but say he can make me an appointment for a few days later. Tells me the vehicle was safe in his opinion to make the weekened trip I had planned. He was very nice and not pushy. So I thought, okay...I'll make the appointment. There was no leak found in the gas line...so they said most likely the gas cap was the culprit. I had also mentioned to them when making the appointment that I thought the shocks might be going. So they looked into. When they called to tell me about not finding a leak, they mention that the sway bar links were broke and should get replaced. So I gave them the okay. And here's comes the wonderful part. They told me the shocks were old and could use replacing but that if I did not want to spend the money to do it right now that there was no issues waiting it out a while longer. I was amazed! They will now be my garage/mechanic of choice. They didn't attempt to scam me. They only looked at the areas that I wanted them to look at. they didn't come up with a mile-long list of false repairs that needed immediate attention.
And this response is entirely much longer than I had ever intended it to be! But all in all, I guess I just wanted to say that there are still a *few* honest mechanics out there. I hope you are able to find one who is up front with you and not trying to take advantage of the fact you are a woman.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
I will eventually find an honest mechanic. Actually, what will happen is that my husband will find him. I'm sick of dealing with these guys and waisting my time!
You are so fortunate to have found such a great mechanic!
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@urbandekay (18278)
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11 Apr 07
What you are saying amounts to this; your husband is better at negotiating with people.
all the best urban
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
No. What I am saying is that these mechanics think that they can scam a woman but when a man goes in with the same complaint he is taken seriously and told the truth.
I don't know if you have to be a guy to get a guy to listen to you but it's starting to look that way.
You must be a mechanic.
@urbandekay (18278)
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13 Apr 07
It doesn't happen to me because, I am well informed about such matters and if I was not I would do the necessary research so that I was. I am skilled at negotiating with people.
all the best urban
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
12 Apr 07
I hope you reported this crook to the proper authorities.
I once called a mechanic on some inferior work and was abrupt with him when he gave me attitude. Result: a problem with my car that is unfixable without going to a lot of trouble and expense. It's a very old car which ran well in spite of all the things that I was told needed doing to it.
I have another car now which belonged to my dad. He won't have it that there's anything wrong with it but there are a few things...I'm out of pocket by several hundred dollars so far. But there's nothing wrong with it. Go figure.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
I have reported him but it didn't do much (if any) good. I just don't understand why honesty is not a basic part of service in this field unless you happen to be a man.
My husband gets honesty and respect when he takes one of the trucks in for repairs. They will call him and ask his permission to fix something unexpected. But with me, I can't get a straight answer from a mechanic much less the truth.
Basic customer service goes right out the window if a woman takes the vehicle to the mechanic. It's a crock.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
14 Apr 07
That confirms it! That is so sad! When honest people in the trade are forced to be silent because of the culture it makes it even worse.
I'm sorry that you had to put up with that but I am glad that you were able to work with an honest shop in the end.
I sometomes wish that we didn't have to rely on our cars, but such is life.
They make them harder and more expensive to work on every year. I'm seriously considering going back to the basics and getting an old Chevy Nova that my husband can work on himself. I've always liked the older cars. It sure would save with the mechanic bill!
Thank you for telling us the truth. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that!
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
13 May 07
Once again I have to say it's just the mechanic's basics ineptitude. Recently, my car has made the occasional bang as I drove along. I hadn't seen anything I hit but thought I just hadn't seen what it was, I thought nothing of it. I'm driving a vehicle with low profile tyres and I don't really like it. I'd done a trip of 200 klms and was going to do a litres / klms check. However, the fuel wouldn't flow into the tank, I could only get it in in a trickle, it took ages cos the pump kept cutting out. I assumed I'd blocked a ventilation hole with mud after driving on a dirt road following rain. My friend checked under the car and said the fuel tank was caved in. That followed what I thought. He was too busy to have a proper look so while visiting my Dad, 300klms away (whose car it used to be) I booked it in to the local dealer for it to be fixed. They told me I needed a new fuel tank because I had hit something really hard and damaged the fuel tank. I explained that I had not hit anything and that I could hear an occasional bang as I drove along and I thought that it was the fuel tank sucking in on itself. Of course they took no notice of me. 4 days later they said I could collect it then they rang back to say it needed a new fuel pump. I'm stuck out at my Dad's farm, no vehicle and now have to wait another 2 days for the fuel pump to arrive. I'm up to $1000.
I finally get to go home, much poorer, and 75klms into the journey I notice the fuel guage dropping quickly. I stop at the next big town and guess what? I can't put the fuel in. The car is still running well, as usual and I make it home. My friend looks under the car and once again, the fuel tank has caved in. I rang the dealer who put me onto one of the mechanics and he says "Drop it in so we can take a look". I just don't believe this.
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@ethansmommy (279)
• United States
11 Apr 07
becaue most of them are men and men are as* wholes that is all i have to say about that one lol
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Sorry dargonryder. Not ALL men are ***holes.
We stand corrected.
@Connie1013 (1098)
• United States
11 Apr 07
I think you need to be more firm. I always ask for a run down of everything and does it really need to be fixed. If I still it has to be, I call my hubby in. I have only had one problem over the years. A guy at Advanced Auto Parts tried to tell me that my chevy nova 350 V8 wasn't what I said. He tried to sell me a part that wouldn't even fit on it. I laughed and hubby came over. In seconds the correct part was in my hand. They thing is this "men" think we are stupid. Just smile and let them think it.
So what was wrong with it? Was it the alternater or some other very expensive part?
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
No. It was a leak in the vacuum system. Apparently one of the hoses was baked and needed replaced.
If I am dealing with a business I do not expect to be treated as if I am stupid. And I HATE calling my husband in and watching these guys suddenly dance to a new tune!
Just freakin' be honest! I'm NOT stupid. I hate being treated that way.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Thank you Connie.
Next time I will let the mechanic know up front that I do not expect to be screwed around.
@Connie1013 (1098)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Eventually what comes around goes around. If you know you are smart, then it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks. I gave ya lots of + because I think this is a good topic.
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@lovespecialangel (3632)
• United States
12 Apr 07
They do that because most women don't know anything about mechanics. They feel that we will pay whatever they tell us and that we don't know any difference. Then we tell our husbands and they all of a sudden can fix it cheaper and not as much was wrong with it. But some women don't talk to their husbands before they tell the mechanic to do the work and some women don't have husbands to help them out. These are the women that unfortunately get taken advanage of. It's sad that we have to go through that, but it's just the way some men are.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
Ya it is too bad because the women that get taken advantage of probably can't afford it anymore than I can.
@coolcatzz (1587)
• Canada
12 Apr 07
I guess they figure that we don't know much about cars so they can pretty much tell us anything. They are pretty confident we wouldn't look under the hood and point out their error. I know I always let my husband look after the car because he knew what to ask and sometimes knew how to fix it himself. But I think this has been a well known fact for a long long time.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
No I don't know much about cars. I intend to learn now though. I won't be fixing it myself, but atleast I'll know a load of crap the next time a mechanic wants to put it out there.
@cowboyzfan (718)
• United States
11 Apr 07
I go with my mom to the mechanic sometimes. Doesn't seem like they rip her off.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
Atleast there are some women that don't get ripped off.
@sigma77 (5383)
• United States
12 Apr 07
Thanks for sharing that experience. Car dealers and other repair garages assume that women know nothing about a vehicle. It isn't right that they should cheat you like this. Perhaps you could go to your state and make a complaint against the dealership.
You are totally correct when you say you deserve respect and consideration. I would take your list($5,000 of repairs) to the dealer and talk directly to the manager and let them know how you feel. And I would not let them fix my vehicle...period, not after that kind of treatment. Any dealer who treats anybody that way does not deserve to be in business.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
I made a complaint to Toyota. I still got the run around. I will never use that dealership again.
@kurtbiewald (2625)
• United States
12 Apr 07
hmmmmmmm
yeah they always sqeeze between your legs first
if you have that then its like ok
I better be honest now
I think many places try to judge how much money you have and what you know about the car.
The fictitious problems are probably the profitable ones, fewer parts and less wrench time.
Most mechanics are dishonest.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
LOL! "Nothing down there to squeeze? HHHmmm. I can get away with taking her money." And I'm standing there thinkin' "Man! I didn't even get a kiss!"
@SheliaLee (2736)
• United States
11 Apr 07
That is a good question! I think some men think that women don't know enough to ask questions to find out if they are telling the truth or to get a second opinion. I understand how you feel and how aggravating this is. When my husband and I lived in North Carolina he was in the Marine Corp and had to be gone for two weeks to Norway. While he was gone I saw that I was having to push harder on the break pedal of my car. A neighbor of ours, who was supposed to be a friend, told me of a gas station close to where we lived that would check it for me and help me out. When I took my car he looked at it and told me my breaks were cutting into the rims and would cost over $200 to fix. I didn't have the money of course. They knew my husband was gone and in the military and they felt they could take advantage of the situation. Thankfully my husband called that night. He said for me to just take my time driving anywhere and give plenty of time for stopping. When he got home and checked my brakes all they needed was new break shoes!! He fixed them for about $10. That neighbor who told me about the gas station left his wife shortly after that!!! That wasn't the only time this happened to me either.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
It is obvious to me that this IS a problem for women. Atleast four other ladies who have responded have had the same problem.
What is it with mechanics? I KNOW my truck. I'm not completely dense. I may not know how to fix it but I do know when something isn't quite right. So why treat a woman like she's completely stupid?
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@SheliaLee (2736)
• United States
14 Apr 07
I agee with you. I wish I could give you a definite answer to your question. Apparently some men just don't have respect for ladies that they ought to have.
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@darkzzt (757)
• Canada
11 Apr 07
i think that they are dishonest to women because the mechanics think that women dont know about cars and car parts. certainly, cars are more of a male hobby but maybe some females enjoy it too. if you show the mechanic that you know about cars a lot, maybe the mechanic will not lie to you
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
I don't know anything about cars. It's time to learn.
It shouldn't matter that I am not a mechanic myself. It's honesty - or the lack of the makes me so angry.
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
I don't know anything about cars. It's time to learn.
It shouldn't matter that I am not a mechanic myself. It's honesty - or the lack of that makes me so angry.
@Xenomania (81)
• China
12 Apr 07
That's funny.
these kind of guys just want to take the advantage of women 'cuz they figure women are unprofessional in some fields(such as car stuff),so guess women need to sharp their weapon somehow,that is to be more professional in some field,and give no chance to those who want to do some trick~
there's quite an example for this to explain,say shopping,women always do much bargain and they're quite familiar with the market,but guys are not that lucky,they feel it wasteful to bargain for a long time,so they just pay for the price the sellor asked for and never feel cheated...
Guess the two is alike somehow...
if u don't want to be cheated,just polish ourselves in the fields others we're not good at,right?
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
Right. I'm going to take a basic repair course so that I'll atleast know the jargon.
@shelagh77 (3643)
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11 Apr 07
SOME mechanics are dishonest with women because SOME women allow them to be. If you learn a little of the technical jargon etc you can soon cut through their spiel.
This web site tells you the checks to make to ensure you vehicle runs more smoothly for longer:
www.momslife.com/zine/cartips.shtml
Just knowing a few facts like these can throw a mechanic into "hmm, she knows about cars" mode.
www.troubleshooters.com/tautomot.htm
gives a lot of information too.
Treat a mechanic in the same way as you would any other professional, and evaluate what they say in the same way. If all else fails take another person who does know about cars with you.
I am lucky in that I am lifelong friends with someone who IS a mechanic, but he does despair of some people in his trade.
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
You're right. Knowledge is the best defense.
I'm going to learn about my truck so I can keep this from happening again.
@zuri25 (2125)
• United States
11 Apr 07
This is yet another example of the fact that despite all the advances and acknowledgements women have fought to get through history, we are still living in a "man's world." I guess we are just supposed to forget that we females are responsible for bringing babies into the world, maintaining the household, working to provide a paycheck without which many families could not survive, and on top of that be good wives, mothers, sisters, grandmothers, aunts, and friends. Let's just play dumb, bow down, and kiss the feet of the magestic and superior male because they know more and do more than we do. GIVE ME A BREAK!.....sorry, needed to get that outta my system lol.
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
WOW!
There are times when I feel exactly the same way! Especially when I'm dealing with a jerk that treats me as "less than".
@paradisesuns (1754)
• United States
11 Apr 07
I agree females are taken advantage of by mechanics,and talked to like we're idiots.Fortunately I don't have to deal with mechanics or car repairs,my husband is fantastic when it comes to knowing about cars.But if I went in to a mechanic by myself this would happen to me...and probably because I know nothing about them and truthfully could care less about learning about repairing them...I wouldn't have the patience to do it.I'm glad your husband took care of this problem, and this dealership repair shop should be shamed for treating you that way...it is a form of prejudice to treat women differently than men.(Have you ever seen the movie "My Cousin Vinny"...if not you should watch it...it might make you smile!(Glad your truck is running again for you) :)
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Thank you paradisesuns.
It just annoys me that my husband has to step in with this kind of thing when I should have gotten honesty from the start.
@joy358 (491)
• Philippines
11 Apr 07
So in this day of women's lib and gender equality there are still those stupid, chauvinistic men who take advantage of others just because they're women? This is pretty annoying. Do they think women are stupid?
Fortunately for me, I haven't encountered these kind of problems yet but if I did I'd be mighty pi**ed off too. I'll give that mechanic a piece of my mind just to let him know I do have a mind. LOL!
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
I really don't think he'd care if I told him off once or a hundred times. I'm not a man.
Yup! They're out there. I hope you don't run into one of them when it's something important!
@Dana5881 (609)
• United States
11 Apr 07
WOW that is so typical. Most mechanics think women have no clue when it comes to cars so they tell us things hoping to get money from us. It's happened to me before and I fell for it only to realize later the guy scammed me because my car didn't need all that work.
You were smart to get a list and take it your husband.
@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
13 Apr 07
...and THAT is my point ladies and gentlemen!
I am not the only woman that has been scammed by a mechanic. The only difference is that this time I caught it in time. Thank you Dana!
I'm sorry it happened to you. It's hard to know which mechanics you can trust!
@tweessusej (18)
• United States
11 Apr 07
its wise to always look into the things that are supposedly wrong with your car.
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@RebeccaLynn (2256)
• United States
11 Apr 07
Well ya, but it would be nicer if mechanics would be honest with women.