why did GOD create US?

your not supposed to "believe" in science.. reliigion has answers? omnipotence is not "unlimited power" like a super hero, its ALL POWER, meening, knows all and can do all, potential for anything. i have already explained why he cant have both

im sorry, i didnt mean god cant know all and do all, i thought you were smart enough to understand the meaning without me having to explain it. religion does not have answers, period. answer this question, "why did god create us" using religion and i will debunk whatever answer you have. i never said an omnipotent god is illogical. i said a an omnipotent god that loves is illogical. i said god cant be omnipotent if we have free will. if you want to live in a fantasy world where ignorance is bliss, be my guest. but what if knowledge, experience and consciousness is all that you have in the next world? then your screwed.

I don't understand why something that "knows all" and "can do all" is illogical. On the other hand, it is perfectly logical. Only some thing that knows all can do all.... You say that the concept of omnipotent God is illogical. I have gone through all your posts... I haven't found it anywhere when u explained why it is illogical. Just because u cannot imagine it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Oh yes, I don't 'believe' in science. That is exactly what I mean. When u research something with your own eyes and you find out it's true, you start believing in it. That's why you believe in science and I don't.. I guess you would have understood what I mean by that. In another post, you have said that "God can't have love because emotions cause limitations". Again, here your concept of love as an emotion is purely human in nature because your intellect doesn't understand anything farther than that. So, your intellect is limited. And so, it consequently follows that it is not able to comprehend anything beyond its limitations. And u asked me "Does religion has answers?"Yes, religion has answers. You have not researched the different religions in this world. Go do it and then come back and we will discuss this thing. Some religions do have other ways of explaining creation and other things that is now being researched and found to be logical with scientists themselves. If you claim to be a scientist, go and find out. Religion has answers, but the answers need not necessarily fit inside your intellect because you are too intelligent lol. Remember that the mind forms a visual image of everything that is being said. That image can only be of something that the brain is able to comprehend. Nothing above than that. Most people's idea of infinity can be just vast and unending space.... nothing more than that. You will know the answer why God created u only when u try to see it from God's point of view. All else will be BS. Can u answer me this? Can u tell me who you are.... pls be careful... I'm not asking for ur name, or your profession or your human species name.... ... nothing that can be specified with "my" in it... all those things refer to something which u think belong to u. "I" am asking you to tell me what u think when u say "I".... that basis of all thoughts... this 'I' which you know exists. Tell me who this 'I' is.... find that out first and you will have answers for everything else in this universe. Good Luck.

its an oxymoron to be omnipotent and have feelings/want. if you don't want to debate thats fine, but ignorance is not bliss my friend. prayer does not work, coincidence does.

why do people want things? because they need to achieve prefection. same with "need" and "learn" god cannot "want" if he is omnipotent

God can do whatever He wants because He is omnipotent. Besides God gave us all the attributes He has, including feelings, if we have feelings then it just goes to show that He does too. I will not argue with you, or even debate this issue. But I will pray for you.

When GOd created us he did not need us!!!!He is GOD so he did not need us and he was not lonely!He doesn't need anything!!He did what made him happy when he created us.

pleasure = want/need /= omnipotent

happyness is a limitation

lol.. firstly, god cant have love because emotions cause limitations and god cant be limited because he is omnipotent. in other words, god has all emotions but it cancels itself out.

an omnipotent god cannot need anything

Yeah, you're right. But it is His very nature to love-- and love cannot be felt by your own, it should be given/shared to someone. Although God is not lonesome, for He had His Son, His Holy Spirit and the angels. It is love for His very own creation-- He cherished it. What do you think of those inventors or companies that assured the patent/copyright/trademark of their discoveries be credited to them? It's the same principle for God that His' creation should know or acknowledge that He's the one who authored/created them.

but then that means God NEEDS something, and that is not possible because god doesnt need anything because he is omnipotent.

..what is the nature of life? the energy of life.. what is it like?

energy = potential for work

i thought religion was supposed to be the answer, and since the KORAN is supposibly gods words, i thought somebody could answer it. why believe in something that does not have the answers?

i respect your own beliefs but you didnt explain why he made us too clearly, you just said why he decided not to make us

..I think all things, including religion has been used and even abused.. and have all changed, as they pass through many human hands.. I agree we are in a world of waves and cycles.. set in motion.. but blending with said waves and cycles is imperfection, an offshoot of thinking ability having been endowed (to angel and man). For thinking ability includes, sooner or later, the ability-to-choose.. And so that is where we are.. in the unfolding of choice/'free-will' an unavoidable journey/lesson, if there are to be rational creatures, and not merely worlds, plants, animals.. :))

again, god cannot want/need something if he is omnipotent. my studies on physics have led me to come up with my own beliefs on god. i dont know if there is a "god" (creator) i believe religion is not true in anyway, just a way of trying to gain power (not trying to offend any1, just my belief) i dont believe that god is omnipotent because it is illogical i kind of believe in us being trapped in a world with more than 3 dimensions, that is filled with waves and cycles, and we go through time over and over, and the same thing happens forever for no operant reason. this is hard to believe for many because it assumes that life is random and pointless, but that is my belief, more logical but less "pretty" lol and since this cycle is random, it does not need a creator.

k, i could agree with that.. but in that statement god looses his omnipotence

wants worship/praise = limited = not omnipotence

again, if god has need, god cant be omnipotent

then whats the point of worshiping (HIM lol jks) her? she wouldn't be more powerful than human beings, and would be nothing more than a parent.

Ok, I don't think She is omnipotent, just She has the great power to give us life and freedom.

..to be in a state of no aspiring.. no wanting.. is perfect? sounds stagnant to me.. opposite of Life..

again, the only reason someone wants/needs is because one is not perfect.

again, god cannot want/need or else it would mean he is not perfect/omnipotent

lol...again, an omnipotent god cant have need

lol.. hes not wasting anything. the only reason one "needs" or "wants" something is because one is imperfect. so god cant need/want because then he would be imperfect and then he wouldn't be omnipotent.

oh he could, omnipotency works both ways and in fact, being omnipotent and not using that potential I think could be just a waste... or perhaps he's just overrated xDDD

my purpose is to prove gods omnipotence in religion illogical lol

lol..thanks

I'm happy for you that you have discovered God's purpose why you were created by him. Keep up the good work you are driven to do on this earth. God bless

god cant "want" because he is supposibly omnipotent

god cant want because he is supposibly omnipotent

why post this comment? i dont worry. i think, search. i am a philosophy student.. thats why, i want to see what others believe.

gods feelings cancels itself out. why does someone want something? because he does not have that thing in the first place. and since god is already perfect, he does not want anything. if he did, then he is not perfect, then, he is not omnipotent.

i ask you, why does one "want"? then, i ask you, does it make sense for a god that is perfect, who has everything he needs and ever wants, who is omnipotent, to want?

Just as I've said, WANTING is different than NEEDING. He Wants us to enjoy the things He created. The things that He created, He don't need them, that's why he created Us, but that doesn't necessarily means that HE NEEDS US.

god cant forget god cant get bored he is omnipotent

oxymoron: religion does not have the answer but Christianity does.. god cant want: imperfect: not omnipotent god does not need pleasure or need to fill up on anything. god does not need to be served if there is no beginning or end there is no god how can there be a place where good things happen all the time..

Fightingistheonlyway, why does it seem that other people feel "threatened" (in looking at the tone of responses to ANY religious-based discussion) when anyone says they do not believe in their version of god and religion? Isn't that contrary to the religions teachings that people are to be non-judgmental and have faith in their god? Why should it matter to anyone if another person does not take stock in these things, and why do they think they must change their minds? Isn't the all-powerful god stronger than them to begin with, and better able to reach those he wants to have serve him?

I think it all comes down to YOU...you personally dont care about God at all... You seem as if you are just out to prove it wrong...So im done trying to help you understand...If you want to be a monkey so be it...thats your choice...the choice God created you with...