Anyone here suffer from agoraphobia?
By Aussies2007
@Aussies2007 (5336)
Australia
April 16, 2007 1:55am CST
I have been suffering from it for 30 years and did nothing about it... except learn to live with it.
I did not know what my problem was for the first 20 years. I discovered it by doing some research on the internet. Meantime... 15 years down the track... I developed a side effect from my agoraphobia... which is stress... and in turn... stess can cause depression. All in all... it did stuff up my life in a big way.
Very few people understand agoraphobia... except those who have it. It is not a medical condition... nor a mental condition. Which is why the doctors cannot do anything for you... nor the psychiatrists. There is no medecine to cure it either.
I am now thinking to purchase a set of CDs which is sold on the Internet by various groups... which claim to have the cure. Does anyone of you have purchased those CDs?
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@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
16 Apr 07
No I do not suffer from agoraphobia but you say it is not a mental condition but it is my best girlfriend had this sickness and she is well again now after seeing a psychiatrist about it, as agoraphobia is a disease of the mind where the person is scared to go out into open spaces and I took her to a specialist to talk about this and now she no longer suffers from this disease. So I do not know where you are getting your information from to say that there is no cure for this, my friend did not use any CDs. But you are right that once you have agoraphobia that it can of course develop into stress and that can cause depression.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
16 Apr 07
It is mental to the extent that the problem is in your head. But it does not affect the person from an intellect point of view. People suffering from agoraphobia are totally normal people.
It is true that a psychiatrist could help with this. But it would take so many sessions that the cost would be prohibitif. Maybe your friend did catch it in its early stages. But at the end of the day... the psychiatrist can only advise the patient how to deal with it. It is the patient which has to do all the work to get ride of it.
Medication will only numb your mind... but won't cure you.
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@amyzim1 (122)
• United States
11 Jun 07
I think the meaning was that we are not out of our minds or crazy
@trinidadvelasco (11401)
• Philippines
16 Jun 07
i am having this feeling, too. i am very normal. it is just i do not like to be in such big open spaces. i have been encountering it by thinking that there is nothing wrong about being somewhere alone and that nothing bad can happen to me. this is really the mind over matter thing that i am doing in order to cope with the fear.
i have never known that this is called agoraphobia. i have never talked to anyone about this fears before. just only now when i feel being gripped by this sudden feeling of being insecure again about going places and meeting some people by myself. then again, i am calming myself down by thinking that i can cope with this once more as i have done before.
maybe, the best cure for this will be to mentally condition ourselves that we can make it because, nothing wrong will be taking place there anyway.
@byfaithonly (10698)
• United States
17 Apr 07
I suffered from agoraphobia many years ago and I feel for you suffering from it for so many years. I was blessed by a dear friend who figured out what my problem was and he 'stood beside me' every time I needed to leave the house until eventually one day I actually managed on my own. I will never forget that first outting but was so thrilled when I called my friend and told him what I had done on my own. Most people could never understand the excitment of going 2 blocks to the grocery store alone but it was a major step in my life.
I still avoid crowds, hate shopping (not fun for me but do it), and prefer small groups and gatherings but I also managed with help to stand up in front of over 700 people and talk. Luckily I didn't realize until afterwards it was also broadcast on the radio to several thousand or I may not have done it.
I can't speak for the CDs but I would say if you can afford them there is a chance they could help but I wouldn't put all my hopes on them.
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@mjsdls (1840)
• United States
17 Apr 07
I never heard of it. I have read all these post but I'm still sure what this is. You say their is no medicines that will help this?
Maybe my neighbor Janet has this, she is afraid to be around crowds now. She stays at home unless she has to get out and no way out of it. She said she is afraid of being around a bunch of people. She was not always this way. Can someone explain exactly what this is?
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
17 Apr 07
This was one of the websites which did interest me the most. Maybe their information will help you understand it.
Anyway... the good news is that I went to see a doctor today and did set the wheels in motion to do something about it. I am now being referred to a specialist.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
18 Apr 07
Looks like I forgot to post the link.
http://www.panic-anxiety.com/
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@Katali (63)
• United States
28 May 07
The label "agoraphobia" can be very misleading. Agoraphobia means "fear of the market place or fear of open spaces". Phobia indicates an irrational fear relative to a fear someone would have of spiders. This does not fit everyone that is labeled "agoraphobic", in my opinion.
Some people are true agoraphobics who have an actual fear of open spaces. Some are agoraphobic due to panic disorder and they "avoid" going out to avoid having panic attacks. To me there is a difference. I loved going places. I loved driving. I didn't love the fear of having a panic attack once I developed panic disorder, thus the avoidance behavior set in, which was labeled agoraphobia. It's like asking which came first, the chicken or the egg lol For me it appears that the panic attacks came first and then the avoidance behavior that was labeled agoraphobia.
In my opinion and first-hand experience, I believe agoraphobia is more of an emotional disorder, possibly combined with something physical more than mental. Changing our thought process can help, but that is only one part of the process. For some it does work, but that leaves the question...why doesn't it work for others?
Why does one become agoraphobic when they used to love going out? Doesn't this indicate that something in their life, their physical or emotional make-up changed? If so, in that process, maybe something in their mental make-up changed and needs to be corrected. But, I believe that there is a trigger that pushes the person into agoraphobia, more so than it just being a clear-cut phobia of going out into the world. I believe there are core issues that have to be dealt with in order to find the right treatment for each individual, thus the reason a single treatment doesn't work for everyone.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
29 May 07
Thank you for your interesting point of view.
I am working hard into analysing my problem... but still don't have a solution. The doctor is still trying to talk me into taking that Efexor.
I think that agoraphobia starts with the fear of something. Once you have that fear... it causes panic attacks when you are confronted with it.
You then develop a second fear... you dread the thought of having a panic attack in public and make a fool of yourself or embarrass yourself.
Then... the avoidance start in order to minimize the chances of having a panic attack. The avoidance is the cure... not the cause.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
15 Jun 07
Well I did learn something very important about it.
I could not figure out what had caused the agoraphobia in the first place. And I had the whole thing the wrong way around.
It is actually anxiety which trigger agoraphobia... when your anxiety becomes too much to cope with. In turn... like in my case... the agoraphobia triggers stress as well.
So now I understand it. But I am still looking for a way to cure it. Homeopathy has been suggested by a fiend of mine. Does any of you has used homeopathy?
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@mushroomLady (208)
• Malaysia
14 Nov 07
Hello Aussies2007, have you tried NLP- neuro linguistic programming? All phobias are related to our mind. If you can program your mind to think positive, you will do positive. I have a friend who has been afraid of roaches since she's a little girl. NLP help her overcome her fear.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
15 Nov 07
No... I have not heard of NLP.
But people have mentionned other programs... and they are all about positive thinking.
Even CBT is about positive thinking.
The problem is that agoraphobia is not a real fear. It is an irrational fear... which makes it almost impossible to control.
When I have a panic attack... it comes out of the blue for no reason at all. Positive thinking does not work once you have an attack because you lose control of your body. It is like fighting a computer virus. The virus takes control of the computer... and most people re-format.
The only thing which work is to force your mind to think of something else. Once you get your mind occupy by something else... it goes away. This is what I do... with various degrees of success. It certainly is not easy by any means.
I would re-format my brain if I could... but I don't have a CD burner to make a back up of all the knowledge I have accumulated along the years. laugh.
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@mushroomLady (208)
• Malaysia
15 Nov 07
Hi aussie, you mention you have to 'force your mind to think of something else.... THAT is what NLP is about! Helps us change our mind set!It is not just positive thinking.It is much much more. I hv gone for NLP workshops n it is one of the most wonderful thing which I hv done 4 myself. The other thing in life is Prayers. Most of my worst hapennings in life were answered thru prayers.
I was suffering from chronic pain for 16yrs n all the doc I went to was unable to diagnose whats wrong. I had gastric pain, neuro pain, headaches,etc. Pain! Pain! Pain!.... My blood test was very ok. Pain killers I took could not kill or reduce the pain. I could not take it anymore...16yrs..!
Then 1 day I prayed...either God take away my life or give me a remedy. God decided to give me another chance n for the past 2 yrs I never need to see a doc again. In fact I am introducing this fantastic natural herb to clinics so tht doc can use it to treat other people. Secret is....Treat your body...Not the illness.
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@ellyij (17)
• Trinidad And Tobago
10 Mar 08
I have been agoraphobic for about 25 years now and like you I have learnt to live with it. Like you I did not know what it was for many years until I saw something on Oprah one afternoon. I have been very frustrated and depressed because in my country there are no support groups and the counselor I've been seeing is not really helping. I feel great after my sessions but there is this one niggling fear that he just is not able to help me get a handle on. I myself have considered purchasing CDs or books so if you have actually purchased them let me know if they were of any help.
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@ellyij (17)
• Trinidad And Tobago
11 Mar 08
Thanks alot for the advice. I do go through spells of "empowerment" when I feel that I can control this thing instead of it controlling me. What I have learnt so far in my reasearch is to take it in small steps, so I am going to see my psychologist again and get that empowering feeling going again. Thanks again.
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@magica (3707)
• Bulgaria
29 Apr 07
Well...i dont know if mine is agoraphobia as a clinical condition. This is probably a light form of it.I HATE to leave my home even to go to the market.The people at the streets, the noise, the cars, everything made me to feel serious discomfort. I avoid to contact with others out of my home :(
May be we speak about one and the same thing and i agree, there are no medicines. There are some form of auto-sugesstion, trainings, but i am not sure how effective are they indeed.
@trinidadvelasco (11401)
• Philippines
16 Jun 07
oh, my. there is really so much that i can learn from mylot. i have been suffering from this kind of thing since i was a child. all i know was that i was a killjoy because i prefer to stay home always. i have this panicky feeling whenever i have to go places and meet some people, especially if it is for the first time yet. i thought that this is a normal feeling among everyone. now, i am proven wrong.
i have learned about the extroverts and the introverts when i took up some psychology subjects wayback in college. it is good that you have brought this up here. it is good to know the things that has caused us trouble. from this time on, i will be coping better...so much better and i have to thank you for this. awareness is the first step in capturing our fears.
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@marilynlynn (994)
• United States
21 Dec 08
Hi Aussies2007............
All I can say is... I'm sorry. I've never heard of this, but I've been reading what everyone is talking about, and I find it very sad.
I know what the whole anxiety thing is all about, and I too have learned how to deal with that through the years. I'm just glad I don't have "agoraphobia". I sure wish I could help you with it. I don't know if you believe in GOD, but maybe it would help to pray about it. I will say a prayer for you, if you don't mind. Good luck to you my friend, I wish the best for you. Marilyn ;o)
@violeta_va (4831)
• Australia
12 Nov 07
My cousin has it (has not be diagnosed) it all started when he had a huge issues with his heart (he was born with heart problems that could not be fixed at that time and now it is not an option). He was in public when his heart played up big time and he was scared that he wont make it home. Then he stayed home all the time. 12 years later he still has huge issues with going out. Few years ago he had not left the house for almost 3 years. On top of that he has developed other things as well. Like compolsive behaviour and he cant stand people. Few years ago he got a job (he was getting better so thats why he was readdy to go work) but the company closed down so he went back to where he was not living the house and all that.