Satanism - please inform me?
@CritterKeeper (519)
United States
April 16, 2007 4:27pm CST
On another religious thread I mentioned that I honestly don't know a lot about Satanism but it is one religion that I'm honestly not comfortable about. It *seems* to me to advocate a lot of selfishness and taking advantage of others which I have a hard time with. I'm very happy with where I'm at in my religion, not looking to convert, but I believe in being educated about as much as possible. So if you are a Satanist or know more about it please tell me more?
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
17 Apr 07
Well, I'm not a Satanist, but I do know a bit about it.
Assuming we're talking about the non-Christian form of Satanism as established in 1966 or 1967 by Anton Lavey - it in itself was more of a counter religion to Christianity. Unlike what the media leads you to believe, they don't worship the Christian devil. In fact, they believe "Satan" (Satan is also synonymous with 'self' amoung Satanists, if memory serves) to be a pre-Christian concept or force.
As you will learn if you go here: www.religioustolerance.org/satanis1.htm , they don't worship a deity, there's a lot of emphasis placed on the individual practitioner, they believe each person is responsible for their own actions and their own direction in life, and Satanists do revere life. It is against the Church of Satans moral code to harm animals or children.
They have their own 10 commandments, if you want to call it that, known as the 9 Satanic statements.
Satanic Statements:
Satan represents -
1.) Indulgence, not abstinence
2.) Vital existence, not spiritual pipe dreams
3.) Undefiled wisdom, not hypocritical self-deceit
4.) Kindness to those who deserve it, not love wasted on ingrates
5.) Vengeance, not turning the other cheek
6.) Responsibility to the responsible, instead of concern for psychic vampires
7.) Man as just another animal - the most vicious of them all
8.) Gratification of all one's desires
9.) The best friend that the Christian Church has had, as he has kept it in business for centuries.
Much like the 7 deadly sins that Christianity has, Satanism has 9 Satanic sins:
1.) Stupidity
2.) Pretentiousness
3.) Solipsism
4.) Self-Deceit
5.) Herd Conformity
6.) Lack of perspective
7.) Forgetfullness of past orthodoxies
8.) Counterproductive pride, and
9.) Lack of aesthetics
Further theology of the Church of Satanism:
1.) People create Gods in many forms, so you should pick the one most useful to you
2.) Heaven and Hell don't exist
3.) Satan isn't a living entity, he's a force of nature
4.) Black masses are rarely held by Satanists, except on special occasions
5.) Human life is sacred, and children in particular are not to be harmed.
If you wish to learn anymore about religious Satanism, go here: www.religioustolerance.org/satanism.htm
This website is probably the least biased source of information on religious Satanism.
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@scammerwear (1433)
• Singapore
17 Apr 07
That is a very interesting post Latrivia, I think I'll start to get to know them a little better after all..
@CritterKeeper (519)
• United States
17 Apr 07
Thank you very much! This was the sort of info I was looking for, something that is as unbiased and fair handed as possible. I'll definitely visit that website to learn more.
@chaygylmommy (2470)
• United States
16 Apr 07
I usually don't comment if I know nothing about the topic, but I just wanted to say that this is a very interesting question. I hope you get some answers because I will be watching this thread too. Thanks for thinking up such an interesting topic.
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@5000ml (1923)
• Belgium
17 Apr 07
When I was just 16 I met a very nice and patient person who was a Satanist and he explained a lot to me about Satanism as I was very misinformed. I have to say that I haven't met anyone like him since (the same open mind and willingness to learn from any religious text like the bible and the koran), but I do suppose that other Satanists are quite like him.
I'm not a Satanist, but I do know that they don't believe in any deity, but rather see themselves as their own god. I've never had the impression that they advocate a lot of selfishness and like to take advantage of others, but to me this actually sounds like a lot of non Satanists (i.e. regular people) in todays society.
@nicolec (2671)
• United States
17 Apr 07
I was referring the scary part to the 'see themselves as their own god'. Not to the take control of one's life part. Seeing one as their own god portrays they see themselves as almighty, invicible, and who knows, maybe even immortal. To think those things of yourself is well...scary.
@CritterKeeper (519)
• United States
17 Apr 07
I believe it is more of a "take control of your own life" kind of thing. Scary? Why? As a Wiccan I strive constantly to take full responsibility for myself, not place the blame anywhere else. It can be pretty hard and scary at times, admitting to yourself when something goes really wrong that it's your fault (or at least partly in some cases), but I think that's just part of life. Blaming things on outside events, people, beings, or situations and refusing to take your fair share is an easier, more comfortable way maybe (and boy do I wish I could hide in that sometimes!!) but you fail to grow as a person.
@Galena (9110)
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17 Apr 07
I've met probably about 3 Satanists ever.
and I liked them.
as in the previous post, it's a philosophy rather than a religion, with focus on not suppressing natural human nature.
the ideas behind it can sound a bit selfish, and could be interpreted in that way, but on the whole, Satanists are decent people.
@CritterKeeper (519)
• United States
17 Apr 07
Thanks Galena. Every post I've read of yours so far you seem to be a calm voice of educated reason which I really appreciate.
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@socorban (650)
• United States
17 Apr 07
No satanist here, but i wil refer 2 incredible books that can tell you much more than anyone can post here. They are bny rebecca brown. "prepare for war" & "he came to set the captives free"
If you want to know more about the subject and spiritual warfare i suggest you aqquire and read them.
God bless!
@socorban (650)
• United States
18 Apr 07
Maybe you got the wrong one, as far as i know shes not married. And dont let the books mislead you by the names. They actually delve deeply into whats really going on as far as satanism, the occult and spiritual warfare that is going on all around you.
Shes no conservative minister, The books are highly infomative on the subject in question. I do suggest you at least check them out, maybe from a local Christian book store, or Another form of bookstore.
@CritterKeeper (519)
• United States
18 Apr 07
On a search for "Rebecca Brown" I got http://harvestwarriors.com/ and looked at it because the search description said "Led by Rev. Daniel Yoder and Rebecca Brown, author of "He Came to Set the Captives Free." From the website: "Led by Rev. Daniel Yoder and his wife Rebecca (Brown) Yoder, M.D. This dynamic couple minister together as a team to boldly teach biblical truths with an authority based on their own extensive and unique experiences."
See I already, just personally, have a problem with that totally seperate from this discussion. As it pertains to this discussion I have a hard time believing that such a firm Christian could really have an unbiased opinion about Satanism. Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't read the books for myself. Would you be willing to share a little bit about them? What did you get out of these books?
@CritterKeeper (519)
• United States
17 Apr 07
Thank you very much for the recommendation but I fear you've misinterpreted my purpose with this thread. When I did a quick search on those books I found that Rebecca Brown sounds like a fairly conservative Christian who ministers with her husband. That's the sort of thing I'd like to avoid. I mean, warfare?? What warfare? I'm not looking for ammo against Satanists I'm only seeking knowledge. I feel that education is a vital key to overcoming all differences so that people can learn to love each other.
@socorban (650)
• United States
17 Apr 07
Well nicolec, everything based on theory, beliefs is technically a religion based on some sort of faith. deny it or not, everyone belongs to a form of religion even evolution and atheism are beliefs based on faiths. You have to "believe there is no God, and have faith in it. Or "believe" we came from an ameba, and have considerable faith since there is not one proven fact, just assumptions pushed off as facts.
Satism, wicca, reicarnation, buddism, islam, catholosism, Christianity and so on are all "faith" based religions as well, with or without structured belief systems.
Everyone is in a cirlce.