Recongition of Wiccan Symbols On Gravesites of Soldiers

@pyewacket (43903)
United States
April 24, 2007 7:51pm CST
I just came across this interesting piece of info--it has been known that the US Military has for years recognized Wicca as a religion and therefore those soldiers who practice Wicca/pagan paths cannot be persecuted for their beliefs...now it seems that the US government will recognize and honor Wicca symbols like the pentagram on the gravestones of soldiers as well...what do you think?? About time-after all other religious symbols have been recognized. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18274639/?GT1=9246
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@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
25 Apr 07
*dances around happily* This has been a long-term battle, and I've been watching it for a while now. Fairly recently in a particular case the state intervened and went ahead and put up the gravestone, but that still didn't fix the long-term problem of the rights of other veterans. I can't tell you how happy I am that you posted this, I hadn't read any news yet today and so didn't know! Thanks so much!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
25 Apr 07
You're most welcomed! ;-)
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• Brazil
25 Apr 07
=s
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• United States
26 Apr 07
I'm a born again Christian but I am happy to read this. Regardless of what my beliefs are; I feel all religions should be honored.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 Apr 07
That's a truly beautiful thing to say, considering you have such different beliefs....yes all religions should be honored
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• United States
26 Apr 07
I actually studied/practiced some wicca after I became a Christian. Ever since I was in Catholic school I have had an interest in religions. I had to do a report on a different religion in school. I did mine on Shinto. I also did a poster with many different religious symbols on it. So at that point I learned a bit about each if I could. Over the years I have studied many religions. I studied the Catholic religion more deeply after becoming born again to see if I made the right decision. I learned so much doing that. Including the fact that many of their rituals are based on pagan ones. In so learning I learned some paganism. I have learned a bit about Buddhism, Hinduism, and a few others I can't even think of right now. I also learned about different Christian religions. One thing I learned is that almost all religious beliefs come from a deap seeded human need for connection to a higher being. Some call Him (or Her for some) God, some Allah, some the Goddess. That is the thing that unifies all religions. Sorry this got so long.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 Apr 07
Was glad you added some more thoughts and was a pleasure to read...I've studied the various religions too out of curiosity...know all about Shinto--and the Kami...Shinto can be considered the pagan religion of Japan...Too bad more people aren't like you though and study up on the various aspects of all religions just to have an understanding of them...then maybe people would be more open-minded and accepting of people's different concepts of the Divine--and would also realize that no matter what we call the creator(s) it's still a belief in a supreme deity or deities
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@avonrep1 (1862)
• United States
25 Apr 07
I think this is great, being Pagan I find that it is a great step forward in really respecting other's religion. Thankfully the decision wasn't left up to BUsh, if It was we would most likely start have witch trials again and hangings and burnings at the stake. America is based on the freedom of religion. That should go for whatever religion anyone believes. Soliders of all beliefs fight in our military, their belief should be respected upon their deaths.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
25 Apr 07
LOL--if a lot of decisions were up to the hands of Bush, there would be witch trials for anyone who didn't think like him!
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• United States
25 Apr 07
I think that is great. I don't see what the big deal is on what is placed on their grave stone. I'm sure it is a great feeling for those of you who are Wiccan. I'm not but it doesn't mean I'm not happy for you. I mean I'd be angry if someone told my family that they couldn't put a cross on my headstone if that is what I wanted. I think part of the problem is that most of America doesn't understand Wicca and they think it is evil. I think if they took the time to learn they may be impressed with what Wicca is.
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@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
25 Apr 07
Yeah i remember that symbol which been shown in movies and suggest evil doings or evil rights, im still ignorant of such kind of beliefs and would likely to conclude or made some assumptions that it is not good religion..but maybe if informations are given much importance on the media maybe we or i can understand it and accepted it , together with the others..
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
25 Apr 07
It's unfortunate that you're basing what you see in movies, as rarely are there movies about people who follow the Wicca/Pagan path shown in a positive light and instead are shown as Devil worshippers and Satanists...this is the furthest from the truth...but then in Hollywood, evil sells...who wants to see movies about "good" witches? No, those of us who have chosen to follow this path are not evil...many of us had formerly belonged to other religions, usually Christian but choose this way of belief and path of life instead--Wicca/pagan beliefs stem their origins to the old ancient ways of belief, we believe in the concept of both male AND female aspect of the Divine...a god and goddess, rather than just a god...We who follow this path are nature oriented and have a great respect for all life on this planet...and unlike the images one sees in movies, we do not sacrifice animals for "Spells" as that would go against the nature of respecting living creatures...this is a far cry from the negative images one sees in movies, where people are shown sacrificing animals or doing harm to other people... And the pentagram is a very old ancient symbol going back to the Ancient Greeks and Romans..and at one time, early Christians wore the pentacle symbol to represent the five wounds of Jesus...also, many of the so-called Christian traditions, are actually based on ancient Pagan beliefs, and it would surprise those of the Christian faith just how connected and similar their beliefs are and are tied to the "old religion"-- Before one comes to conclusions that we are evil people, maybe a little reading behind Wiccan and Pagan principles is needed here before making any judgments against us Here are some places to read up on the subject http://www.religioustolerance.org/witchcra.htm http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_intr.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wicca http://en.wikipedia.org/wike/Pentagram
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
25 Apr 07
oops that last entry should have been http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram
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@APMorison (424)
• United States
26 Apr 07
Way back in 1967 or so they put Wicca into the Chaplain's manual. Its taken another 40 years to get the gravestones marked. What floors me is that there were 38 religious symbols already approved before this, including one I'd never heard of (Asian - Japanese I think) and Eckankar - eckankar.org - which is Ancient Wisdom reportedly resurfacing in the Mid 1960s, from their website - Their symbol was added quite some time back and I don't remember hearing anything about a fight like the Pentacle has taken. I salute Selena Fox and Circle Sanctuary for keeping the push moving forward to this conclusion with the suit that finally took it over the top. If Wiccans can fight and die for this country - they should not have to fight with this country for the recognition that was given without question to others. If you can not take your faith to your grave with you what can you take?
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 Apr 07
Beautifully stated!! Thank you ;-)
• United States
26 Apr 07
Well I think it's great :) I am a bit surprised that they are taking this long to do it considering the fact that they've already recognized it as a religion.
25 Apr 07
It is high time that this was recognised and in the open. We ae supposed to be living in a society where we have freedom of speech and freedom of worship yet we are still persecuted. This is great news
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@saralee1 (1983)
• United States
26 Apr 07
I actually met the lady who was fighting to have the pentagram on her husbands tombstone, a couple of months ago, in the military. It was a long and hard battle for her. And of course, I personally believe you can have whatever symbol you want on your headstone, if you desire as such. I mean, the Celtic people left relics of the phallus left behind for centuries, so why not? ;P
• United States
26 Apr 07
i say it's about time also.there's no reason why it should have been denied. i am glad to see they finally did the right thing.
@scammerwear (1433)
• Singapore
26 Apr 07
Wow! They finally passed! I saw that fight on the witchvox (haven't been checking) a while back. This was a long long battle, finally they passed it. Thanks for posting this here pyewacket!
• United States
25 Apr 07
I have to agree that if that is what those soldiers believed, then they have that right.
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